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Age of Conan Forum » General Discussion raquo; Pushed back for the 6..no 7th time? becoming vaporware?

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  eric_w66

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1/21/08 2:29:47 PM#21

The delay was probably only known to the most senior people at Funcom and EIDOS and agreed upon (so they posted anyways) Saturday night.

Due to its impact on the financial side of things, the people who were saying that the march date was solid were probably not aware of any talks to extend it beyond rumors, or they had to keep stating what had already been officially announced. I suspect Norway has rules regarding insider trading like the US has. This is probably why it was announced to the stock exchange first because of the rules regarding such things.

  Ruthgar

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1/21/08 2:35:05 PM#22

I would rather a company push back release 10 times than release the game before they feel it is ready.

I was in LOTRO beta and I was hoping they'd push it back another 2 months, but it still had a smooth launch.

 

  malachidark

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1/21/08 2:41:18 PM#23

no March release? aww, so much for getting for my birthday present to myself :(

 

I just hope it doesn't get released the same month that WAR and Aion are released, because I want to play all of them at least one month each, and that's hard when they release at the same time.

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  Gishgeron

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1/21/08 2:41:35 PM#24

Anyone so dumb as to complain about delays in release deserve whatever piece of crap game they get as a result of NOT doing it.

 

Delay = Good in ANY fashion its presented as far as MMO's are concerned.  Everytime I see a crappy MMO...I just KNOW it is because they didn't spend enough time polishing it before release.  Remember, most players only EVER give an MMO one shot.  If that one shot is a crappy release...then that game just lost the vast majority of its potential playerbase.  It takes alot more than word of mouth to recover from that kind of blow.

 

Trust me, they know what they are doing on this matter.  I'd be more worried over the lack of Open Beta...but the leaked videos I've seen have been really impressive thus far.

  bstripp

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1/21/08 2:46:58 PM#25

While I am not a fan of WoW, Blizzard did one thing really right... no release date.  You get it when you get it.  As soon as you put a date out there, all you can do is disapoint someone.  Either the folks who scream that your game must stink because you need more time, or the ones that think you didn't delay enough and shoveled it out the door.

I wish more producers never gave us dates.  It would cut down on the stupid flame fests that seem to broil up over any delay or actual release.

  singsofdeath

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1/21/08 2:50:28 PM#26

Originally posted by bstripp

While I am not a fan of WoW, Blizzard did one thing really right... no release date.  You get it when you get it.  As soon as you put a date out there, all you can do is disapoint someone.  Either the folks who scream that your game must stink because you need more time, or the ones that think you didn't delay enough and shoveled it out the door.

I wish more producers never gave us dates.  It would cut down on the stupid flame fests that seem to broil up over any delay or actual release.

Sadly, I have to call a QFT on this one.

 

The "fans" being as they are these days, a company should just put out something like "Q2 200x" and let it remain at that until they -know- a release date. As it is, all that trying to pinpoint a release date and then realizing the game needs a bit more time does, is conjure up tons and tons of flame threads. *sigh*

  mo0rbid

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1/21/08 2:52:13 PM#27

Originally posted by Selencia

My feeling is they're having major setbacks - possibly from a lackluster closed beta, or from overwhelmed programmers trying to keep up with a deadline. First removing 2 classes and the possibility of removing features from launch (prestige classes) and soon after, an 8 week delay. I can't imagine 8 weeks is going to make a huge different in how polished/finished the game is, we can expect to see AoC around Fall, I think.

read this and you'll see

 

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=52918

  natausch

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1/21/08 3:01:48 PM#28

Not surprised, given their spectacularly bad AO launch (nearly as much rubber-banding as EQ Day 1) they're bound to be a bit gun-shy.

However, first off remember that this is a European development team, meaning their workforce has considerably higher amounts of vacation time available. So the idea of "taking December off" is probably not that far from reality.

Second, we know that the technical parts of the game are running, but the largest group of journalists they've allowed to demo at the same time is right around 8-12. Menaing dealing with largest situations is bound to lead into more performance issues related to their toning down the combat system.

Will 8 weeks be sufficient? Only if they were to open the Beta to 10k today and begin to do a true stress test and correction. Finding out that content is the reason they're pushing the game back is a kick to the nether regions. Performance is going to be this game's issue; server and local.

Right now I'd put them in a 50/50 boat between having their game cancelled like G&H or going gold with it. If they push back again, those odds will become quite a bit longer.

  jadan2000

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1/21/08 3:39:41 PM#29

Originally posted by Jenus1

As the crowds flock to games such as WAR, AOC's release date is pushed back yet again, making the number of times delayed a possible 6-7.

http://www.newsweb.no/newsweb/index.jsp?messageId=201101&lang=1



Feels like this game can't live up to the hype, or wants to, but just doesn't have the quality :(


/discuss


MAN PLEASE! the game will be good when its ready to be good, doesnt matter if its today, tommorow, or next year. Noone else is doing anything new except WAR and the hopefull new SW game, so to be honest, it will be good in may or may of next year, as long as its ready.

PS. after the vangaurd incedent, you would think alot more of you would get this by now!!!

 

  daarco

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1/21/08 5:28:44 PM#30

Why so much talk about this? The beta testers said it wasnt ready so they delayed it two months....and people are already beginning to scream vaporware?? What is this....the Darkfall trolls??

Just relax, soon you will sit and play AoC and be happy for the polished gameplay.

  Expatriate

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1/21/08 5:44:51 PM#31

A game can't flop until it's released.

As long as a game is delayed, you can still milk investors for more funding.

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  bverji

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1/21/08 5:53:56 PM#32

 

Originally posted by Ruthgar

I would rather a company push back release 10 times than release the game before they feel it is ready.

I was in LOTRO beta and I was hoping they'd push it back another 2 months, but it still had a smooth launch.

 

 

I agree, however, it doesn't mean that the fact that they had to push back 10 times isn't reason for suspect. I have seen this happen enough that I recognise that push backs, often at the last minute shows a great deal of mishandleing by the development management. 

  SavageLore

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1/21/08 6:01:22 PM#33

Well not sure how many times it's been delayed but multi delays come down to three options.

 

The company internally fighting between the team and the money people for a release date.

 

The Devs simply believing they can produce the game they want faster then they can in reality.

 

The Dev Teams ablitiies are not up to Testers expectations/demands.

 

In any of those three choices the delay is far better then to release at a randomly picked dated that they are hoping to start making money on.

  Alienovrlord

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1/21/08 9:15:24 PM#34

Age of Conan is NOT vaporware, get real.   There are tons of videos if the OP bothered looking that show the clear progression of the game during its development over the last couple of years.

There are clear differences between AoC and games like Gods and Heroes and Hero's Journey and all the other games in development that were more empty ideas and a video or two rather than actual substance.

The OP and everyone in the MMORPG community should be able to tell the difference by now.    Leave the term 'vaporware' for the games that deserve it.    Age of Conan may be delayed, but by now it should be obvious that it is real and it will be released. 

What happens after that is in the hands of the Devs. 

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