Ha, the only reason that whining baby doesn't think that people don't like FFA is because... They probably played in every game without FFA. Oh noes, "ducking" reds in UO was an aggrivation eh? How about you get 2-3 friends and then no solo gankage for you. If one person took out you and your friends, it's because you aren't as good at the game as that person. I don't care if you didn't have hit points or blah blah blah. What do you do if a monster spawns on you and kills you when you're "medding"? Do you /tell the monster and say, "HEY THAT WASN'T FAIR I WAS TEH GATTING HIT POYNTZ!!!" No, you don't. You complain about anti-social 13 year olds, but you're probably running around solo which means you're probably being anti-social as well... Or completely stubborn to believe that you're going to take on the rest of the entire world of players because you're so amazing... Then you get destroyed.

So the argument of people being 13 year old punks who have no social life is hilarious. There is a mirror set up in your direction if you believe this, because you are also the one complaining the entire time to these people and about these people only because you can. It is a vent for you, a form of expression, only because the monsters don't care to listen to you. So, seeing as players can receive your messages, you message them or others who aren't even involved and complain about someone who set you up and owned you. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, my sword! Oh noes! Go back to that blacksmith and buy another one or ask around for some spare change to purchase equipment.

Not everyone is a dick and although I ran around slaughtersmashownfacing people, I still gave them equipment @ Moonglow or Brit Bank on other characters. Why? Because the community requires a balance and that balance will always be there even if it's incredibly hard to find. If someone wants FFA in a game, don't come to the post and say - I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOUR BELIEFS ARE DIFFERENT THAN MINE!, just don't post. It's as simple as that. I hope that you're not religious because if you respond in the same way to peoples' beliefs like this in real life... Then I really don't know.

Originally posted by Venger

AoC blood money system sounds a lot like DaoC system.  Was there level restriction, pentalty for excessive ganking?

In my view getting this right...so that it doesn't descend into mindless ganking...is a very tricky thing to do.

One person's needed tweak is another person's mindless nerf.  The fine tuning of these systems is exceedingly difficult, because the audience is fluid and very picky about these things.

Which is probably another good reason by the devs to avoid the aggravation to cater to the desires of  a relatively miniscule portion of the playerbase.  One that carries with it a self-destructive element that have absolutely no long term vision...not realizing that by their actions their 'content'...other players to prey on...will evaporate over time.

And so chimes in the real man with balls the size of grapefruits.

I've grown completely bored with this discussion.  PvP will be consentual, ffa servers are being looked at, whether any of those will be any type of loot maybe probably not.  But you know what I don't care in the slightest.  The industry has realized letting anyone negatively effect anyone isn't good business practice.

Originally posted by Venger

And so chimes in the real man with balls the size of grapefruits.

I've grown completely bored with this discussion.  PvP will be consentual, ffa servers are being looked at, whether any of those will be any type of loot maybe probably not.  But you know what I don't care in the slightest.  The industry has realized letting anyone negatively effect anyone isn't good business practice.

   Who said anything about ffa servers? Just you I think. Most players who want looting expect guilds to declare war on each other or be in a warring faction. (as in consensual PvP). As for negatively effecting other players, do you think being killed and having to make some stupid death run, or losing skill points isn't a negative effect? Hell, the developers of AoC would like nothing better than to steal a coupla million players from other mmorpgs, negatively effecting players from other games entirely. Wake up. 

Originally posted by havocthefirs

   It would be a hell of a lot more thrilling if PVP was made with full looting. Blood money is just some false substitute for the real thing, making it seem as if your actually getting something from a fallen foe. In actuality your opponent loses nothing. There is nothing to stop someone from ressing over and over, I can run into a mob of enemy players and annoy the crap out of them just because I can. Since I have nothing to lose I have nothing to gain but artificial junk. Ho hum, let the boredom begin.

Yes please allow us to be looted and loot others.  I promise you will have a better game if you do so, kick the carebears outta here!

I dunno, im in between because it can work ie EvE, but i dunno. I mean the only real people that will say no are people that wont to go anywhere they want with no consequences. Thats the thing about EvE, you cant grind the best spots because the best spots are player owned somehow.

So i did take a stand against full looting until i realized it was my fave part of EvE. The world is supposed to be as harsh as the EvE universe. Why should you suffer no consequence for going into enemy territory with no penalties besides death. You should be killed, skinned, and hung, with all of your belongings scavenged by the people around. I do think they should make a seperate server/ make it for the FFA PvP server, to also steal carebares from other games though.

Hell everyone wants a innovative system but wants to hold onto old ways. Fuck grinding to collect "The Best Loot" but everyone has it. I say there should be a limited number of items, and then these people that hold them are looked at as kings or targets.

Does anyone even know the effect of gear in this game. Since its conan, they didn't have like uber armor... Conan faught in a fucking skirt and no type of armor.

And im leaned more towards Carebare with a small hint of PvPer in me

just have the Option for looting to be turned on and off. If you want to be looted turn it on, if you dont turn it off.

Looting is a must in this game ! Full looting or just a few items, it must be there, i hate the WoW system where u kill someone to have them stab u in the back 3 minutes later to waste your time, when i kill someone i want them to think twice before crossing paths with me again.