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Age of Conan Forum » Game Suggestions » $19.95 monthly fee

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  Phos

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5/30/07 11:32:57 PM#81

This game looks good but I don't see anything to indicate it will be better than other fantasy MMOs currently in development or recently released.

The game will not have FFA PvP, Corpse Looting, Player Housing, or various other things important to win a "top spot" in my book. Also, I've read that raiding will be practically be a requirement at higher levels if you want to be competetive.... NOOO THANKS, I got my fill of that in WoW (I hated being forced to depend on 40 other players who are power-tripping, drunk, immature, or just plain don't know what they're doing.)

Some people argue AoC will have a better PvP model? Take a look at Huxley if you wanna see a sweet MMOFPS pvp model.

Some people say it will be a more open PvP system where tactics and environment can be employed? I agree there, this game does appear to be good in that respect. But take a look at Darkfall (if it's ever released). And if Darkfall isn't ever released, Fallen Earth will have a PvP model similar to or better than AoC in my opinion. (plus, it's not another FANTASY game... jeez, am I the only one sick of FANTASY MMOs? Sci-Fi will be a good change of pace!)

Bottom line though... AOC looks like it will be a worthy game, but certainly not good enough to command a higher monthly fee than the standard $15. (Besides, it's another fantasy game! Aren't we sick of all these fantasy clones yet???) There isn't a perfect game in development in my opinion. The closest to perfect of anything out there is in Darkfall (another fantasy game)... but it's been in development for about 6 years, so I guess we'll just have to keep waiting.

The only plus side to increasing the monthly fee... it would deter nub kiddies from subscribing. But the down side of a higher monthly fee is that the overall subscriber base would be much smaller (with so many similar games to choose from, who would choose to play the expensive one?) and this could ultimately spell doom for the success of this game.

- Phos

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  Consequence

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5/30/07 11:34:49 PM#82
Originally posted by Supernerd
Originally posted by Consequence

I think your logic is a bit scewed though. More and more Mmorpgs are coming out every year, MMorpg.com is a testiment to that.  In most economic models, including 1 for a MMo,  more competition = lower prices.

I agree that AoC looks fantastic, but so do a few other upcomming games.  Around the time of release of AoC we could have other highly anticipated MMos due out, like Warhammer or Pobts or several others. Imagin what it would do to AoC if they were at $20 and the others were at $15. People would be more apt to try out the less expensive game 1st and AoC would lose the opportunaity to get them hooked 1st.

I also look at demographics.  The 1st demographic to get weeded out with a raise in prices would be the younger demographics. Being an adult, I wouldnt mind this at all. I would love it in fact. But, most companies rely heavily on younger kids, despite whatever the game may be rated. If they didnt depend heavily on kids, they wouldnt always be releasing games just b4 Christmas or just after school gets out, by FAR the 2 most popular times to release games.

Competition? Crap vs crap .....the market is over saturated if anything.
Remember guys, it's  still less than a buck a day. And Sinkael im sorry about misquoting you but we want good games,better games,we have to be willing to pay for them.
Let's send that message and be ok with this.

The market is oversaturated because of the high amount of competition, thanks for making my point. The fact that its crap doesnt change that.

I never said I was opposed to paying more, I said why I didnt think it would happen. You didnt have an answer to any of my points.

Lastly, what makes you think paying more for a game = better game? If anything has been proven by the increase in game prices over the last 10 years, it is the contrary. From '97 - '01 most games cost $10 and had comparable service, if not better service than the current  $15 games do. So why would the next $5 be any different?

 

  kwai

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5/30/07 11:43:05 PM#83
i can understand why you would think i'm nuts for suggesting a higher monthly fee.

I just feel that if  AoC is as good as I think it will be; a 19.95 subscription for 30 days would be good for the players.
Yes,it would be beneficial for us gamers by showing that we are willing to fork out more cash for quality.
It would send a message to future mmorpg developers that hey if you actually make something good,yes you can charge a little more and we will happily pay extra with a smile on our face.

C'mon guys,it still will cost LESS than $1 USD  per day.
Fellow gamers let's all help send that message.
Age of Conan a Premium Mmorpg.

Why the hell should we be playing allmost 1 USD a day to a play we allready payed for once ? , for maintance you say, right yea that makes sense but if they think they can buck up the price now, every other company will just follow up on it and i think that blizzard makes more than enough of the general mmo player, limit is 15$ usd and i won't pay more so they can get a better paycheck, they allready live on your income , why contribute more to it ?
  kwai

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5/30/07 11:48:32 PM#84
Originally posted by Unicorns_Pwn
Apparently  you don't understand. As consumers we are trying to get the best service/product we can for the lowest price. There is no reason for me to want to blindly throw money at a developer when we've never even played the game. We have heard all about innovation plenty of times before on this forum and the rest of the internet. Regardless, it's still gonna be basically the same experience you've had in nearly every other game with maybe one more thing thrown in that they will just create a timesink out of.

Aye , its like the saying , all talk no action, regarding to the press releases with the new combat system / innovation and afaik it has been done before and is in process, darkfall is working on some of the same things and it has been in development for a longer period of time.
  Draenor

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5/30/07 11:52:09 PM#85
Originally posted by Supernerd
Originally posted by TedDanson

Dude, you eat 4 snickers a day? Thats friggen disgusting, and shows your lack of self control towards spending money wisely.....that or you are just a fatty mc fat fat.

nope just have 2 after breakfast and then 2 at nite before bed,but i usually goto bed after midnite so.......
Guys don't you see i am suggesting this for OUR own good .
It will help us in the long run,just go with the flow guys,this is a good idea.

That's really disgusting.

Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  Caru

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5/30/07 11:54:35 PM#86

I think GuildWars got it right.free to play an still up there  with the proffessionals ^_^

Sadly no one else seems to be following NCSoft's example >_<

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  Slampig

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5/31/07 12:07:24 AM#87
Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by Supernerd
Originally posted by TedDanson

Dude, you eat 4 snickers a day? Thats friggen disgusting, and shows your lack of self control towards spending money wisely.....that or you are just a fatty mc fat fat.

nope just have 2 after breakfast and then 2 at nite before bed,but i usually goto bed after midnite so.......
Guys don't you see i am suggesting this for OUR own good .
It will help us in the long run,just go with the flow guys,this is a good idea.

That's really disgusting.
The Food Police are on the prowl...

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  Daedalus732

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5/31/07 12:12:49 AM#88
To the OP:


If you want a discussion on economics, I would be happy to give you one, but suffice it to say, there has to be a reason for a product to suddenly increase in price. Inflation doesn't just suddenly happen in $5 increments. As far as your candy costs going up, have you considered that maybe the retailer just wants more money? I'll tell you a secret: Big industries make money by selling their product in bulk for a reduced rate. Unless the raw material prices increase, there's no reason to change the price. But retailers can charge whatever they think people might pay. I can buy a 20 ounce bottle of soda for 79 cents in a gas station, but if I go across the street, it costs $1.25 from a vending machine.

Besides, prices on items actually go DOWN over time, not up. If something suddenly increases in price, then it's usually just greed on the part of someone.

As for your asking for a raise suggestion, I don't know many jobs where you can just walk into an office and ask for a raise. It's not that kind of world anymore. Most businesses and corporations operate from a distance to avoid face to face interaction with their employees so that their on site managers have to tell the employees that even if they wanted to, they simply couldn't give a raise.

Personally, I think $15 a month is excessive, particular for these cookie-cutter MMOs that just seem like they copied code from one game to another. Give me a break!

But a $20 a month game? I don't think so. That's where I definitely draw the line, and where I think many gamers will draw the line. Unless AoC has a spectacular launch with ground-breaking game elements, I think most people will stay away based on the subscription price.

While I'm always amazed at what some people will defend, I never thought I would see the day where someone would defend a ludicrous price increase. Shit...

And if Sigil taught us one thing, a poor launch is death.
  Jumper2k

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5/31/07 12:14:29 AM#89

A smart company with a good MMO might want to LOWER the price to draw in more players ... since the community is getting bigger as has been said. Being a good MMO would draw people in along with people that want to pay less for a good  MMO ;)

Not all prices go up... Look at electronics. About 9 years ago I paid $3000 for a computer... a year ago I paid $1000 for a MUUUUUCH better computer.

I read one of these posts of someone talking about paying aol per hour or w/e for an online game. I also had friends who did that on a game called silent death. They dished out a ton of money on that game. Way more than we pay now.

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  Sturmrabe

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6/01/07 2:11:57 AM#90
Make it $30 for the first 3 months then drop it to 10... keep the children out..


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  someforumguy

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6/01/07 5:56:12 AM#91
Omg, someone is actually defending the OP.  The OP is not suggesting a higher fee in general for future games, but for one specific that has been under development for years already. It makes no sense so close to release suddenly offer as consumer to pay a higher monthly fee. It is just throwing money away at this point!
The OP is clearly a troll, because he ignores every sane business argument in this thread. Why is this still in game suggestions anyway? And please stop the stupid car analogies, geez! You dont need an analogy to understand that the OP is simply enjoying himselves with all the people who take his suggestion seriously

Anyway, you have always the option to donate a gaming company money on top of the monthly fee, so OP go for it! Invest in the future!
  Razorteets

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6/01/07 6:20:54 AM#92
You know, when I first read the original post I thought to myself "This is funny.  It's like A Modest Proposal with an MMO twist."  Then I realized that he wasn't being satirical, he was just plain stupid. 

More importantly, we're paying $14.95 a month to start with because an MMO is already a premium video game.  It offers a massive community, and an amount of possible content unheard of in standard games.  The concept of making a Premium Premium game is stupid.  On top of that, what is it that makes you think that AoC is so utterly amazing that it justifies a price increase in the first place?

Really, I hope that this is just a joke taken too far.  If not, I hope the OP dies from his absurd Snickers(TM) consumption rate soon, so he doesn't have a chance to actually convince someone equally as stupid of him in a position of power that this is actually a good idea.

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  Supernerd

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OP  6/01/07 11:56:23 AM#93
I really don't feel 15 bucks per month is "standard" fee for a new AAA mmorpg,
i just don't think any of the games have been good enough yet to charge more and get away with it.
Until now.
I didn't really expect too many people to agree with paying a higher monthly fee..

However,I In fact,truly believe that if Funcom were to announce a 19.95 per month fee,
it would have a positive affect on the hype for Age of Conan.
I think they would actually draw more interest.

Try not to be so negative guys.It's only a few more cents per day.

IMO,Funcom should look at it this way--a couple more bucks per month is not gonna sway a persons opinion on whether or not  they will subscribe after their free month is up. 
If they didn't like it they were gonna quit anyways.
Of course Age of Conan will have to deliver,(good launch,good stable servers,and create a newb happy playerbase)

OR the trick may be to not announce a subscription fee until 3 weeks into the first month of going live.
Or just announce the fee now and market it creatively stressing certain elements of the game and key features that AoC will bring to the table that trump older mmorpgs.

i think a lot of you naysayers may have a different opinion after playing AoC free for 30 days.
  roll1up

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6/01/07 12:05:43 PM#94
Originally posted by Supernerd
OR the trick may be to not announce a subscription fee until 3 weeks into the first month of going live.

I'm pretty sure that's a class action suit waiting to happen. I mean, knowing full-well that the game was going to have a montly fee, but not putting that information on the game's package at release sounds a lot like false advertising.

Achiever 60.00%
Explorer 33.33%
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According to this survey, I'm an item-whoring ganker. I guess I should have stuck with WoW then...lmao.

  Supernerd

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OP  6/01/07 12:08:34 PM#95
Originally posted by roll1up
Originally posted by Supernerd
OR the trick may be to not announce a subscription fee until 3 weeks into the first month of going live.

I'm pretty sure that's a class action suit waiting to happen. I mean, knowing full-well that the game was going to have a montly fee, but not putting that information on the game's package at release sounds a lot like false advertising.
They wouldn't have to advertise the exact monthly fee on the box,as long as they acknowledged there was going to be one after the free month.
Don't be afraid you'll be hooked playing your freebie month guys.
Funcom could easily claim they weren't sure of how much it would cost them to keep the game running.
  LadyReno

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6/01/07 12:13:37 PM#96
I  would complain and whine about it, but end up paying it.  Being as I live on line.  But the game would REALLY have to be worth it. 
  Supernerd

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OP  6/01/07 12:16:34 PM#97
Originally posted by LadyReno
I  would complain and whine about it, but end up paying it.  Being as I live on line.  But the game would REALLY have to be worth it. 
Yay,oh i definately feel it would be worth it AND to prove it to you all......
Anyone who agrees with me in this thread,I will offer you an invite into my AoC guild when it does go gold.

That is if only if Funcom does decide to charge 19.95 per month or even just 18.95 to maintain a profit for this NEXT GEN game that I feel will be so phenominal.
  Kyleran

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6/01/07 12:16:55 PM#98
OP, you still haven't put forth even one reason why AOC deserves a higher fee.... i.e. what sort of content will separate it from the rest to justify our paying more for it.

Now, if they'd sell a premium account that came with an automatic "i-win" button on my characters I'd give em 29.99 per month.... but w/o that sort of bonus... i'm sticking to something around the 15.00 price point.

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  Supernerd

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OP  6/01/07 12:36:45 PM#99
Originally posted by Kyleran
OP, you still haven't put forth even one reason why AOC deserves a higher fee.... i.e. what sort of content will separate it from the rest to justify our paying more for it.

Now, if they'd sell a premium account that came with an automatic "i-win" button on my characters I'd give em 29.99 per month.... but w/o that sort of bonus... i'm sticking to something around the 15.00 price point.

I'm not exactly saying they deserve to charge more just cause they will be new release and are greedy people..Just saying they could,and I think they could get away with it and be a great success.

This is the very last thing i will say in this thread.....
Hopefully you all know i was joking about Funcom employees getting a raise before.
I'm sure no one at Funcom will be getting a raise if they have to charge extra per month.

I am going to believe that if Funcom announces they will be charging anymore than $15 a month,it will not be because they want to;but because they HAVE to.Have to maybe because of unbelievable operating costs from new technology (unseen or unused in any other mmorpg to date)they may be using to maintain their servers,code,or maybe outstanding customer service.

I just hope you all will support this game, even if it means paying a little more in the end.
I honestly feel it could benefit everyone.
  Goldknyght

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6/01/07 2:42:49 PM#100
Originally posted by Supernerd
Yay,oh i definately feel it would be worth it AND to prove it to you all......
Anyone who agrees with me in this thread,I will offer you an invite into my AoC guild when it does go gold.

That is if only if Funcom does decide to charge 19.95 per month or even just 18.95 to maintain a profit for this NEXT GEN game that I feel will be so phenominal.

You say this like Anarchy Online stole people away from Everquest. It was hyped up, new sci-fi mmo. Looked great but didnt kill nothing and in the end does anyone even know what Anarchy Online is. Funcom will fail with this one. It won't kill WoW nor get people to want to pay 19.95 when they can play WoW or whatever there playing now. In order for a game to charge 19.95 it would have to be a WoW killer Period. So stop glorifying this game go do somthing you dont know how to do which is GO OUTSIDE, I bet if you could get your damn snickers delieverd you would pay them. Your going to make me not want to give AoC the 50bucks or 60Bucks since i have a 360. there is only one game right now that can make its fee 19.95 and thats WoW.
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