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Amstel  5/14/07 3:42:06 PM

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I say this because I don't want to have to farm PVE ever. I hate PVE. PVE is for total losers. If you really enjoy spending all that time fighting against AIs to improve your gear so you can PVP vs people who you have an avalance of gear advantage over be my guest, Im not suggesting getting rid of that option.... just adding a single server for people like me.... who hate PVE and love balanced PVP

The items people use on a loot server would be different, but they would be balanced. Everyone would use "mediocre" stuff that is easier to attain .... and thus PVP would be based on SKILL completely and not gear at all. That one loser that gets the sword of 1000 truths or whatever would not get to run around owning people with it and feeling "skilled" because he farms for 18 hours a day in mommy's basement. Get it?

See AC 1 for a perfect example of how this makes your game instantly legendary. They had 8 regular servers and 1 PVP server. This was a place where you didn't NEED to follow the lore. You didn't need to do the new content that got added (no one did) and you can still have an insane time fighting with other players , having guild wars, controlling dungeons and leveling grounds, and raiding TOWNS.

I hate the thought that I can "max out" my gear by PVEing a billion hours and then some "new content" gets added and I have to re-start the process..... I hate "pve to pvp" type mind set. I had that in WoW..... i wasted WAAAAY To much time "pveing" so I could gain power for PVP..... i really hate myself for doing that much PVE even if it was for PVP.... cuz they just came out with burning crusade and were like "oh start PVEing again if you want to PVP more" ..... that is pure ass. Never force players to PVE if they don't want to PVE. Have item drop in PVP and suddenly there is no reason to raid for end game gear....... you can get anything in the game just by PVPing ....and STUPIDLY hard to attain items aren't worth farming because you can LOSE them. they are no perma-upgrades that give you an advantage that never ever goes away.
 
Tapion11  7/06/07 2:10:08 PM

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www.guildwars.com      Here  you will find the game that you just described. NOW STOP COMPLAINING!

 
valun  7/06/07 2:16:22 PM

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No,He just talking about corpselooting,that factor can border pve,so like he said,ppl wont farm too much

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Rehmes  7/06/07 2:17:39 PM

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Not sure if youve done some reading but PvP in AoC gets you top gear for pvp. Simply kill people in the borderlands and earn bloodcoins and use them to buy pvp armor. Those armors wil not be available to PvE players, though it is of my understanding that PvE players can make armor to match the top PvP armor (i could be wrong so dont quote me on that). What i am certain of is that by simply pvping people in the borderlands you can attain the top gear. So there....instead of PvE to PvP you can PvP to do more PvP. Hope that helps.

 
Shuklack  7/07/07 3:45:03 AM

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is he talking about player corpse looting?

despite all his flawed logic, I like player corpse looting and think it should be on a separate server.  I will not be playing on it, but there is a specific niche group that is just dying for it.

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daarco  7/07/07 3:54:29 AM

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Remember that PvE and PvP have nothing to do with eachother in AoC.

You get PvP gear from PvP and PvE gear from PvE.

And full loot dont work in level based MMOs. It could work if a sweord always just were a sword, but hrer it is a big diffrence between a lvl 3 sword and a lvl 80 sword.

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Amalaric  8/28/07 12:29:09 PM

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You could always get a petition going once we have a Age of Conan official forum.

If enough people wants a FFA PvP server then you will get one.

 
Ghost12  8/28/07 12:30:28 PM

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Yes yes yes FFA PvP with loot!!!! Of course now we're going to get anti looters come in here and try to trash the party.

*waits for the anti looters to post so he can counter them*

 
Amalaric  8/28/07 12:36:12 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost12

Yes yes yes FFA PvP with loot!!!! Of course now we're going to get anti looters come in here and try to trash the party.

*waits for the anti looters to post so he can counter them*

I think that the "anti looters" will play on any of the normal servers so there is no need to trash the FFA PvP party with lootable corpses. 

 
Ruthgar  8/28/07 12:39:45 PM

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The only real PvP is one that allows for player looting. I hope that AOC has a server with player looting.

 
Zefius  8/28/07 12:47:25 PM

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First off I'd like to say that I'm all for the idea, as I think it would completely trash pve to pvp mindsets, which would be great.  But heres the problem... your out running around trying to gank or whatever.. and a group of 8 people ambush you.  Ok.. thats fair play.. but when you respawn.. your naked.... now what... run up and punch someone?  or buy a new set of gear each time you die? ... that'd get pretty old fast.  Again I'd like to say it would solve one issue I really hate.. but at the same time either you have to make gear thats worth alot not drop.. which wouldn't help pve to pvp at all.. or you buy a new set of gear every time you die.

 
Ghost12  8/28/07 12:59:21 PM

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Originally posted by Zefius

First off I'd like to say that I'm all for the idea, as I think it would completely trash pve to pvp mindsets, which would be great.  But heres the problem... your out running around trying to gank or whatever.. and a group of 8 people ambush you.  Ok.. thats fair play.. but when you respawn.. your naked.... now what... run up and punch someone?  or buy a new set of gear each time you die? ... that'd get pretty old fast.  Again I'd like to say it would solve one issue I really hate.. but at the same time either you have to make gear thats worth alot not drop.. which wouldn't help pve to pvp at all.. or you buy a new set of gear every time you die.

It doesnt have to be full loot, it can be partial loot. Besides, you will learn to adapt to that style of play, and maybe predict and have a backup set of armor for when you die. This isnt a gear centric game anyway, but giving item loot just adds to the excitement so its a win win.

 
Zefius  8/28/07 1:37:25 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost12

 

Originally posted by Zefius

First off I'd like to say that I'm all for the idea, as I think it would completely trash pve to pvp mindsets, which would be great.  But heres the problem... your out running around trying to gank or whatever.. and a group of 8 people ambush you.  Ok.. thats fair play.. but when you respawn.. your naked.... now what... run up and punch someone?  or buy a new set of gear each time you die? ... that'd get pretty old fast.  Again I'd like to say it would solve one issue I really hate.. but at the same time either you have to make gear thats worth alot not drop.. which wouldn't help pve to pvp at all.. or you buy a new set of gear every time you die.

 

It doesnt have to be full loot, it can be partial loot. Besides, you will learn to adapt to that style of play, and maybe predict and have a backup set of armor for when you die. This isnt a gear centric game anyway, but giving item loot just adds to the excitement so its a win win.


Well, it doesn't matter if its not a "gear centric" game or not.. if your a good 10 minute run from town, and someone takes your sword.. and you don't do magic or something... your F'd.  Ok.. keep a backup sword... ok you get jumped again... 3rd sword? how many swords do you have to keep on you? and if its full loot all those swords are gone in one death.  Ok now you might kill them which is possible... what if their a caster.. they won't have swords... basically if you really wanna be a jerk when you kill someone, even in partial loot.. you just take the one piece they more then likely need to be of any use... either bow.. staff.. sword.. axe... whatever... and proceed to camp them.  Now for the "just get used to it" attitude... thats just stupid.. how fun is it to run back to town every 10 minutes to buy 8 swords ... you'd probly spend more time running then you would fighting.

 
Kyleran  8/28/07 2:30:38 PM