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Originally posted by VultureSkull

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by VultureSkull

There is nothing wrong with AoC, you may not like it, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with it.

Simple.

 

Bugged sieges full of exploits, is that not something wrong that has been wrong since launch? I think bugs and exploits count as something wrong with the game, if not how else would you describe it, if it's not intended and disrupts or makes a feature/features unplayable it must be described as something wrong with the game yes?

 

 

That does not constitue the phrase "something wrong with it", if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with every game ever released. And some thing worng with every thing more or less ever created.

So where you want to start or stop my friend........................

I agree with you, just that you made the statement that

"There is nothing wrong with AoC, you may not like it, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with it.

Simple."
 

Really you should have said "there is nothing wrong with AoC in my opinion" but you seemed to be telling everyone that there was nothing wrong with bugged sieges and broken quests and exploits. Also if I buy the box and pay a monthly fee why shouldn't I nit pick? Also I don't see that been irritated by absent features promised and broken sieges and quests as nit picking, I just want them fixed.

Where do I start? I start at broken quest, bugs that impede intended gameplay and exploits. Where do I stop? When there is nothing wrong with the game in my opinion.

You're right that there is something wrong with every game out there, including AoC. It's not my fault, your fault or any of the subscribers fault, it is the fault of the company that developed the game and continues to attempt to do so.

Originally posted by Yamota

Answer to as what I think is wrong with AoC:

1.  
2. Too small world. Cant say for a fact but I feel AoC has the smallest world in any MMORPG I have ever played, maybe WARs world is smaller, dunno.

 

DDO is probably the smallest game world, currently.  Especially so at Launch, when it was about as big as Tarantia.

I don't really get the all fuss about instances... For me, I don't seriously care if I sometimes need to have a few seconds loading screen or not. I'm just happy that I am able to experience the most detail and the most beautiful MMO world ever made. And rofl do you know how long does it take to ride through Conall's Valley or Ymir's pass with a standard horse? Too long. The areas are big enough imo and all the whine about them are just ludicrous. 

Detailed gorgeous but small world like in Aoc > Null world with lots of space like in many MMOs

Originally posted by Agricola1  

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Agricola

Glad to see a post from you again :) 

Yeah...for me the instances just give the world a much smaller feel.  You don't pass by many people because at any given time there is possible 1-4 other people in that zone.  I hate to say it, but I think it remind me a bit of Guild Wars in terms of happening upon random people. 

 I started playing a few months back (I check out the assasin) and enjoyed it for a quite a bit. Great graphics, nice solo story lines, but I just  lost interest after Tortuga. I'm not sure what it exactly was. I didn't like having to wait till mid level to craft, but that certaintly isn't a deal breaker. It just topped having a draw for me. It felt too much like AO with better graphics, and AO put me to sleep. The UI was lousy and mods were non-existant except for some skins. I guess the best way to put it is if you like the EQ, WoW, LOTRO format, then this game isn't really for you.

What is wrong with AoC?

It is simple.
Have you ever tried tasting food blindfolded and not being able to tell if what you are eating is fish or meat?

That's excatly what's wrong with AoC, the game is too generic, it tries to please everyone, but by not catering for a particular player base, it ends up pleasing no one.

I keep saying the real AoC is Tortage 1 to 20, after that the game becomes another generic MMO without soul.
Bioware is doing what AoC started but didn't finish, meaning a game with a strong storyline.
You can be sure though that Bioware won't stop at lvl 20.

Funcom had in hands something original and wasted it

I played dozens of MMORPG, but I have to admit that AoC early levels were the best 20 levels I played in a MMORPG.......pity about the other 30 though.

Originally posted by SirPaco

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by VultureSkull

There is nothing wrong with AoC, you may not like it, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with it.

Simple.

 

(()) it's not intended and disrupts or makes a feature/features unplayable it must be described as something wrong with the game yes?

 

 

That does not constitue the phrase "something wrong with it", if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with every game ever released. And some thing worng with every thing more or less ever created.

So where you want to start or stop my friend........................

 

please gtfo troll

if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with everything... what kind of a point are you making lol

obviously it's a question of measure, and there is many things wrong with AoC (more than is deemed acceptable by most people)

I can't believe I actually replied :o

No need to be nasty about it my friend.
 

Yes it is a question of measure. 

When the question is asked "What is actually wrong with AoC?" the answer has to be "Nothing"

It has issues no doubt, but there is no game breaking "thing" wrong with it as the 1000s of subs will testify too.

SirPaco you should really be up to date before commenting on a public forum as it seems you are out of date with the state of AoC.

Originally posted by Agricola1

You're right that there is something wrong with every game out there, including AoC. It's not my fault, your fault or any of the subscribers fault, it is the fault of the company that developed the game and continues to attempt to do so.

So when the question is asked in the context it is asked "...Actually wrong with AoC" then it is prudent to ignore the little things like broken quests, seiges etc, that will be fixed soon and look at the game breakers that stand AoC above other games (which all have something wrong with them) and that is my point there is nothing actually wrong with it... So looks like we agree :-)

Originally posted by ste2000

What is wrong with AoC?

It is simple.
Have you ever tried tasting food blindfolded and not being able to tell if what you are eating is fish or meat?

That's excatly what's wrong with AoC, the game is too generic, it tries to please everyone, but by not catering for a particular player base, it ends up pleasing no one.

I keep saying the real AoC is Tortage 1 to 20, after that the game becomes another generic MMO without soul.
Bioware is doing what AoC started but didn't finish, meaning a game with a strong storyline.
You can be sure though that Bioware won't stop at lvl 20.

Funcom had in hands something original and wasted it

I played dozens of MMORPG, but I have to admit that AoC early levels were the best 20 levels I played in a MMORPG.......pity about the other 30 though.

Serious!?!

I simply cannot understand your view, you say AoC is too generic!  And that is what is wrong with it!!

My God that like saying that the problem with my new car is that it has 4 wheels like every other car. It should have only 1 wheel. Just because something is not special does not mean it  is wrong.

May i ask what game you play at the moment, cause with your reason, WoW, EQ2, LOTROL, DDO, VG etc etc etc all have the same problem with AoC ie they are too generic. Maybe try a differnet genre if you are bored here!

Originally posted by shylock1079

Yeah...for me the instances just give the world a much smaller feel. You don't pass by many people because at any given time there is possible 1-4 other people in that zone. I hate to say it, but I think it remind me a bit of Guild Wars in terms of happening upon random people.

Another misguided opinion. Are you talking about the size of the zones or instancing?

I go with what you have written, and assume you mean Instances, do you know how many people there has to be in one instance before another opens up? I can assure you that is far more that the 1-4 that you encountered.

And if you are talking about Zones then yes they have some small zones but AoC also has some mazzive zones as well comparable with other MMOs that are not seamless, like EQ2 for example that uses the same zones/instancing model. Ofc it is not perfect but at least it is generic lol.

(You might notice that both AoC and EQ2 have top notch graphics so this maybe a technical limitation of having such graphics, I don't know,  the other game with comparable graphics is Vanguard, that is seemless but suffered from serious hitching until recently, so think about it a bit before spouting)
 

Seriously though please be up to date with the current state of AoC and the facts of the game before coming on a public and giving an oinion on what you experienced 6 or 10 months ago, as in case you don't know MMOs are in a constant state of development, surely yuo all know this...meh...

Vulture you have to stop this, 1 million ex subscribers say there is alot wrong with AoC, even Avery will say there is something wrong with AoC maybe even Morrison will admit it on a bad day. You need to face up to the fact that other people consider broken features, bugs ect to be something wrong with any piece of software they purchase. You may not and that's fine but don't try telling me and 1 million other gamers out there that nothing is wrong!

VultureSkull:

"So when the question is asked in the context it is asked "...Actually wrong with AoC" then it is prudent to ignore the little things like broken quests, seiges etc, that will be fixed soon and look at the game breakers that stand AoC above other games (which all have something wrong with them) and that is my point there is nothing actually wrong with it... So looks like we agree :-)"

That quote is delusional mate, look at what you're saying. You're telling me then when asked if anything is ACTUALLY wrong with AoC then it's prudent to ignore bugs, exploits and broken quests? Why exactly? I should ignore the wrong things so that I come out with the answer you're seeking? That really is nuts! It's like Bill Gates saying "When I asked "is there anything wrong with Windows ME?" ignore the BSODs, poor compatability, lack of security and constant freezes that will be fixed soon and compare it to crapier OSs and with all their faults and that is my point there is nothing ACTUALLY wrong with it!". Yeah sure Bill if I forget that none of the features I bought your crappy OS for actually work and forget the screen freezes and constant BSODs and compare it only to worse stuff including there faults it's erm ... well windows ME would still be a steaming pile of ****, much like AoC!

BTW I don't agree that there is nothing wrong with AoC, most people think it's got alot wrong with it and is barely mediocre at the best of times. If you don't believe do a poll on these forums, anyone who thinks there is a piece of software out there with nothing wrong with it (let alone an MMORPG!!!!) then they need to be sectioned ASAP!

The only thing in this universe that has nothing wrong with it is Gary Numan ... FACT!

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Originally posted by SirPaco

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by VultureSkull

There is nothing wrong with AoC, you may not like it, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with it.

Simple.

 

(()) it's not intended and disrupts or makes a feature/features unplayable it must be described as something wrong with the game yes?

 

 

That does not constitue the phrase "something wrong with it", if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with every game ever released. And some thing worng with every thing more or less ever created.

So where you want to start or stop my friend........................

 

please gtfo troll

if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with everything... what kind of a point are you making lol

obviously it's a question of measure, and there is many things wrong with AoC (more than is deemed acceptable by most people)

I can't believe I actually replied :o

No need to be nasty about it my friend.
 

Yes it is a question of measure. 

((())

 

SirPaco you should really be up to date before commenting on a public forum as it seems you are out of date with the state of AoC.

 So when the question is asked in the context it is asked "...Actually wrong with AoC" then it is prudent to ignore the little things like broken quests, seiges etc, that will be fixed soon and look at the game breakers that stand AoC above other games (which all have something wrong with them) and that is my point there is nothing actually wrong with it... So looks like we agree :-)

 

ok my friend, sorry for being nasty, but you're comment simply showed a severe lack of comprehension :)))

Yes it is a question of measure, and AoC has A VERY HIGH MEASURE of bugs, a VERY LOW MEASURE of pvp content, quite a MEDIUM measure of cheaters and exploiters, a VERY LOW MEASURE of dev response, a VERY SLOW MEASURE of updates and EXTREMELY HIGH MEASURE of people leaving the game.

Now, I play this game every day, and have been doing so for more than a year. How much more up to date can you get? :) 

We not talking of broken quests which will get fixed soon. And NO sieges should NOT be ignored because they are a fundamental pillar of end game PVP (and they have been broken since I've been playing this game).

Let me tell you a little story about a recent bug my friend.

For a long time, there was an exploit (I call it a bug because but since we were not allowed to talk about it on forums, even on test live, lets call it an exploit) where a guardian could, while carrying the flag in a minigame, use a skill called "last stand" which would make the flag dissapear from his back and allow him to function as if he had no flag (i.e hide, sprint etc).

It's been around for AGES. You know how Funcom fixed that? They disabled that ability for guardians :))))))

Instead of fixing the problem, they disabled an ability (which I may add is quite important skill for guardians especially in a minigame lol).

This is just ONE example, and a very recent one at that, that shows how this game is managed and why it is so messed up.

Originally posted by SirPaco

Originally posted by tazarconan

Originally posted by SirPaco

Originally posted by tazarconan 

 

Hello again !

 

First off, any type of game which requires skill, requires spaming keys. I have no idea what you mean by what you are writing :))

Secondly, I did play all Oblivion and loved it, and AoC combat > Oblivion by a lonnnnnng way. But you can't really compare it can you?

Thirdly, the best thing about AoC IMO is the pvp aspect, this is where the combat system shines. Obviously, you don't need much brains to kill a mob and hit attack, but fighting another skilled melee player with this system is joy!

Lasly, it's extremely realistic and immersive. When a guardian kocks me to the floor, I practically feel it in my bones, and when I am the one chopping someone's head off, or knocking a group of enemies down, I'"m in there, I'm my character.

That's why I cant let you say that the gameplay in AoC sucks.

There are MANY things that suck in AoC, no pvp content, no players, un balanced classes, lag, latency, imcompatibility with certain (mainly ATI) graphic cards, zone crashes, many people cheating and exploiting, DX10 not functionnig properly, bugs in so many areas that I can't just list them... 

But the GAMEPLAY fucking owns, it's the best out there.

Oblivion didnt required any spamming and it needed thoguht in order to kill some difficult(stronger opponents).

I said oblivion is single player but tbh i d love to see an exact and bit improved version of oblivion's combat in  an mmorpg and was hoping aoc would do it.

Yes i had around 40-50 pvp encounters in 1v1 or 2vs me situation and i agree it was fun.

Prob is i dont understand why funcom didnt used awsd +mouse left button for performing combos and instead used 3-4 sometimes 5 keys hitting in sequence to perform a single combo. I ts way more tiring this way. A simple example hitting a(left+Lmouse but. u could do a diferent move, hitting a 2ice+LMB another combo etc.Its way more easier this way and less tiring) . Blocking Parrying system is sigh*.

AS for the gameplay if u mean the manual combat part system ok. Prob is by meaning gameplay its not just the combat only, it is the things u can do in game . And here is what lacks aoc greately. Keep in mind that the majority of players prefer gameplay than grafix effects ,and if aoc was great in gameplay it would seriously compete wow in subs numbers. Cause sadly the success of a game is counted in subs numbers. Only excepetion was Ultima ONline but it apeared in an ERA were internet games werent in the frontline as it is now.

I see your point and I'm not looking for a word fight :)

But please let me say this :

1. complexity is often what people actually look for.

2. complexity in gameplay adds levels of interest. For instance, take drafts as opposed to chest. I'm not saying drafts is not interesting, in fact many people love drafts, but chess allows for a more profound game.

However, any extreme is bad IMO and make it TOO complicated you will lose player interest, (it's why they simplified BS and DT).

In fact, I would tend to agree with you, I prefer classes with less buffs, debuffs, and things to activiate and prefer raw movement and hits, but that's just me.

I downloaded the free one-week demo.   Then I had to register for some boards.   I could not get the demo to work; exchanged a few emails with them.   Then I got an email saying my week had expired and I hadn't even created a character!   Lol!   Sorry, nothing could drag me into even trying this game after that experience.

Originally posted by Astralglide

 I started playing a few months back (I check out the assasin) and enjoyed it for a quite a bit. Great graphics, nice solo story lines, but I just  lost interest after Tortuga. I'm not sure what it exactly was. I didn't like having to wait till mid level to craft, but that certaintly isn't a deal breaker. It just topped having a draw for me. It felt too much like AO with better graphics, and AO put me to sleep. The UI was lousy and mods were non-existant except for some skins. I guess the best way to put it is if you like the EQ, WoW, LOTRO format, then this game isn't really for you.

Out of curiosity... were you a Stygian assassin?

I had the same feeling with my Stygian HoX.  Leaving Tortage for Stygia, I found the city quests to be just... bad... (save for the snake sacrifice quest).  Once I moved out of Stygia into Cimmeria and Aquilonia, however, the game got good again.  Sure, I quit again at lvl 72 and haven't been back, but I guess my point is Stygia starts off with a whimper.

I like AoC, but all there was to do that was worth doing was combat.  Doing that for hours and hours just got old.  Now I play LotRO.  Combat isn't as good, and the animations are barely adequate, but the game has far more to do and good reasons to do it.

Originally posted by Agricola1

Vulture you have to stop this, 1 million ex subscribers say there is alot wrong with AoC, even Avery will say there is something wrong with AoC maybe even Morrison will admit it on a bad day. You need to face up to the fact that other people consider broken features, bugs ect to be something wrong with any piece of software they purchase. You may not and that's fine but don't try telling me and 1 million other gamers out there that nothing is wrong!

VultureSkull:

"So when the question is asked in the context it is asked "...Actually wrong with AoC" then it is prudent to ignore the little things like broken quests, seiges etc, that will be fixed soon and look at the game breakers that stand AoC above other games (which all have something wrong with them) and that is my point there is nothing actually wrong with it... So looks like we agree :-)"

That quote is delusional mate, look at what you're saying. You're telling me then when asked if anything is ACTUALLY wrong with AoC then it's prudent to ignore bugs, exploits and broken quests? Why exactly? I should ignore the wrong things so that I come out with the answer you're seeking? That really is nuts! It's like Bill Gates saying "When I asked "is there anything wrong with Windows ME?" ignore the BSODs, poor compatability, lack of security and constant freezes that will be fixed soon and compare it to crapier OSs and with all their faults and that is my point there is nothing ACTUALLY wrong with it!". Yeah sure Bill if I forget that none of the features I bought your crappy OS for actually work and forget the screen freezes and constant BSODs and compare it only to worse stuff including there faults it's erm ... well windows ME would still be a steaming pile of ****, much like AoC!

BTW I don't agree that there is nothing wrong with AoC, most people think it's got alot wrong with it and is barely mediocre at the best of times. If you don't believe do a poll on these forums, anyone who thinks there is a piece of software out there with nothing wrong with it (let alone an MMORPG!!!!) then they need to be sectioned ASAP!

The only thing in this universe that has nothing wrong with it is Gary Numan ... FACT!

 

1 million ex subscribes played AOC at launch. I am not talking about what was wrong with AoC at launch I am talking about what is actually wrong with AoC now.
 

The way I interpret this is that "is there a fundamental problem with AoC" and to me there is not. Because the way I play it there is nothing fundatmentally wrong with it, there may be bugs in quests etc. But that is not a fundamental flaw in the game. Continous freezes that you get in Win ME would constitue a fundatmental problem.

Fundamental= Actually, a matter of semantics.

I agree there are things wrong with AoC, never said there was not. But there is a big difference between a bug in a quest, that may have been fixed whilst we are talking about it here and an actually design flaw, for example some may say that the melee combat system is flawed for various scenarios like PvP etc.

Doing a poll on this forum would attracts majority of people who played at launch and that would result on a poll based on its launch state. And that is not what the game is now. Very very far from it.

"well windows ME would still be a steaming pile of ****, much like AoC!" This statement makes me wonder whether we are actually talking about the same game, May i asked when was the last time you played AOC?

If you have played reently please humour me for a minute and tell what is fundamentally wrong with AoC?

Originally posted by SirPaco

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Originally posted by SirPaco

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by VultureSkull

There is nothing wrong with AoC, you may not like it, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with it.

Simple.

 

(()) it's not intended and disrupts or makes a feature/features unplayable it must be described as something wrong with the game yes?

 

 

That does not constitue the phrase "something wrong with it", if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with every game ever released. And some thing worng with every thing more or less ever created.

So where you want to start or stop my friend........................

 

please gtfo troll

if you really want to nit pick there is something wrong with everything... what kind of a point are you making lol

obviously it's a question of measure, and there is many things wrong with AoC (more than is deemed acceptable by most people)

I can't believe I actually replied :o

No need to be nasty about it my friend.
 

Yes it is a question of measure. 

((())

 

SirPaco you should really be up to date before commenting on a public forum as it seems you are out of date with the state of AoC.

 So when the question is asked in the context it is asked "...Actually wrong with AoC" then it is prudent to ignore the little things like broken quests, seiges etc, that will be fixed soon and look at the game breakers that stand AoC above other games (which all have something wrong with them) and that is my point there is nothing actually wrong with it... So looks like we agree :-)

 

 

ok my friend, sorry for being nasty, but you're comment simply showed a severe lack of comprehension :)))

Yes it is a question of measure, and AoC has A VERY HIGH MEASURE of bugs, a VERY LOW MEASURE of pvp content, quite a MEDIUM measure of cheaters and exploiters, a VERY LOW MEASURE of dev response, a VERY SLOW MEASURE of updates and EXTREMELY HIGH MEASURE of people leaving the game.

Now, I play this game every day, and have been doing so for more than a year. How much more up to date can you get? :) 

We not talking of broken quests which will get fixed soon. And NO sieges should NOT be ignored because they are a fundamental pillar of end game PVP (and they have been broken since I've been playing this game).

Let me tell you a little story about a recent bug my friend.

For a long time, there was an exploit (I call it a bug because but since we were not allowed to talk about it on forums, even on test live, lets call it an exploit) where a guardian could, while carrying the flag in a minigame, use a skill called "last stand" which would make the flag dissapear from his back and allow him to function as if he had no flag (i.e hide, sprint etc).

It's been around for AGES. You know how Funcom fixed that? They disabled that ability for guardians :))))))

Instead of fixing the problem, they disabled an ability (which I may add is quite important skill for guardians especially in a minigame lol).

This is just ONE example, and a very recent one at that, that shows how this game is managed and why it is so messed up.

 

For the record I think you show a server lack of comprehension, but that is neither here nor there :-P And is not really worth mentioning, just slipped it in there so that you may understand that making such comments don't make you appear clever or right,  we can all do it and its surplus to requirement.
 

Well as i said before bugs do not constitute design flaws and fundanmental problems with any software. I played recently and ecountered no bugs whatsoever. So you saying that there is a VERY HIGH MEARUSRE of bugs is quite baffling to me.

Very Slow Mearure of updates is another thing i find baffling, AOC is the most improve MMO, beside Vanguard in my opinion, I challenge you to name another. And you say a very high measure of people leaving the game, in my experience people are now coming back to the game.

You mention an exploit and how Funcom fixed it, that doesn't consititue a fundamental flaw in the game either, as we all know that there are various exploits in all games.

So we seem to disagree on quite a bit here. I see no point in arguing about if futher since we see things quite differently.

I do agree however that broken seiges is fundamental to the end game and can consitute something that is actually wrong with the game more so if that is what attracted you to the game in the first place.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Very Slow Mearure of updates is another thing i find baffling, AOC is the most improve MMO, beside Vanguard in my opinion, I challenge you to name another. And you say a very high measure of people leaving the game, in my experience people are now coming back to the game.

Okay, so in your opinion adding things that were expected for release means improvement? Well, I suppose I agree there. What about the fact that everytime new things are added, the game seems to generate dozens of new bugs?

On the "coming back" comment, I suppose you have somekind of evidence to back up this observation? Or are you just fanboying blindly?

Originally posted by Rawiz

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Very Slow Mearure of updates is another thing i find baffling, AOC is the most improve MMO, beside Vanguard in my opinion, I challenge you to name another. And you say a very high measure of people leaving the game, in my experience people are now coming back to the game.

 

Okay, so in your opinion adding things that were expected for release means improvement? Well, I suppose I agree there. What about the fact that everytime new things are added, the game seems to generate dozens of new bugs?

On the "coming back" comment, I suppose you have somekind of evidence to back up this observation? Or are you just fanboying blindly?

I share the opinion too that not only has the game had things you might expect at launch put in (in a timely manner) but also nicely improved upon too.

And no it is not everytime a patch is added "dozens of bugs pop up" - I would expect some for sure. Take Ymirs Pass update, hardly and I mean hardly any issues whatsoever put on the forums at the time. I asked here for anyone had seen issues - 1 guy said about the DX update and another had issues with ATI's latest catalyst driver a the time. I am not saying there are issues, just that you check the updates ont he official forums and you will see if some crop up there is always a timely hotfix.

I dunno about masses of people coming back to the game I see a few new faces and read and hear some old people coming back - bit of a mixture. I don't see or can measure a month on month difference over the past 3, just seems the same to me. Thats only from a 3 server experience and not all 26 though :)

Moving forward 2 things to improve are smaller bit size updates (to cut down on those bugs and give a better impression the game is always receiving attention and secondly a dam crafting update..)

It is the first impressioin factor. If you make a first bad impression in the mmo market then no matter how hard you work to fix things people will not spend their money on you again. It is sad because I really wanted to be a part of this mmo for the long term.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

It is the first impressioin factor. If you make a first bad impression in the mmo market then no matter how hard you work to fix things people will not spend their money on you again. It is sad because I really wanted to be a part of this mmo for the long term.

"You never get a second chance to make a first impression" Something a tutor taught us at college when going for a job interview, and it applies to all things in life. Look at Windows Vista, it made a really crappy first impression but after a year or so was actually a faster and better OS than XP. However it just could never shake that first impression and that's why we have Windows 7, like Funcom Microsoft ballsed up the launch and released a sub standard piece of software and despite putting it right had to throw in the Vista towel.

AoC is going the same way, the same as Anarchy Online, Funcom will eventually throw in the towel and put it on life support as no amount of improvements will actually reverse the stigma it gained from the first 3 months of launch. They have another chance now to do a proper job with Secret World but I don't see them making anything I'd like to play in the next 5 years. Funcom are their own worst enemy and only have themselves to blame for their own shambolic record when it comes to releasing MMORPGs, FACT!

I was part of the "told you so" crowd that didn't believe the hype before AoC launched. Played the free month for kicks as I was bored and without MMO at the time and the Tutorial area was pretty much the only interesting one. The setting doesn't exactly help as I've never liked the world/lore of Conan. Poked my head in again about three months back and pretty much nothing had changed, at least nothing that had bothered me and nothing I expected could change anyway. Animations still looked terrible which goes to show you can have the prettiest textures and lighting in the world and still make your game look bad. Combat system while fun for melee perhaps (never tried as I don't play melee) was dull and generally uninteresting as a caster. The big sticking point being the intense linearity and how much of a pain in the ass it was to relocate all the time to find quests. 

So yeah, for multiple reasons, some of them personal, I don't see the appeal. 

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by SaintViktor

It is the first impressioin factor. If you make a first bad impression in the mmo market then no matter how hard you work to fix things people will not spend their money on you again. It is sad because I really wanted to be a part of this mmo for the long term.

 

"Look at Windows Vista, it made a really crappy first impression but after a year or so was actually a faster and better OS than XP.

Apart from AoC conversation, what are you smoking? Because it's not legal in most countries.

Vista is shit and there's no comparison to XP. Period.

Win7 looks ok for now, but couple of months will tell the truth.

But if the game launched today, nothing would be diffrent than what happened over a year ago.

This game needs polish, better game mechanics, and more MMO stuff,  stuff to do with rewards. Then PvP needs some focus to this day and sieges need to work.

Lol this game hasn't changed at all really, the failure of free trils proved it.

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by SaintViktor

It is the first impressioin factor. If you make a first bad impression in the mmo market then no matter how hard you work to fix things people will not spend their money on you again. It is sad because I really wanted to be a part of this mmo for the long term.

 

"Look at Windows Vista, it made a really crappy first impression but after a year or so was actually a faster and better OS than XP.

Apart from AoC conversation, what are you smoking? Because it's not legal in most countries.

Vista is shit and there's no comparison to XP. Period.

Win7 looks ok for now, but couple of months will tell the truth.

 

 

I rest my case sir, ;)

@Finatcid, You're right, unlike Microsoft Funcom hasn't raised it's game and turned the product around after 18 months. Most of those reasons I and 800k others left last year are still present after 18 months with little chance of being corrected.