Just kill every one u see, Its so simple.

Its just pixel char, u dont need pity anyone. less it talks then better.

Originally posted by Arcwelder

So,how bad will it be on a pvp server? Constant gankfest? Will it be difficult to accomplish quests? Meaning if I only have 2 hours of play time each day, will most of it be consumed by finding my corpse? I enjoy both aspects of MMO's PVE and PVP(not much of an RP'r though)....I cant decide on which server type I should choose. Any CB testers care to respond with their thoughts and or suggestions?

2 hours of play time a day? Lol you will reach 80 Im would say sometime in 2009 and be ganked about 5867969462969990652756 times in the process.

Even the CB PvP server is a gank fest, hell funcom had to institute "rules" just so some testing could get done. Level 80s were going to the nooby area and ganking every person they saw.

Only the most chromosome challenged or wanna be psycho paths play on the PvP servers anyway.

Originally posted by Arskaaa

Just kill every one u see, Its so simple.

Its just pixel char, u dont need pity anyone. less it talks then better.

Thats the thing though. I dont want to kill everyone I meet. Id like to maybe meet some friends. Maybe help save someone thats about to die.

Are the PVE servers all consenual pvp in them or is it full open PVE in just designated zones ? I dont like gankfest PVP servers but I also dont like the nice carebear consensual PVP stuff either. Id prefer PVP but in specified zones so I can choose when I want to pvp

Originally posted by admriker4

 

Originally posted by Arskaaa

Just kill every one u see, Its so simple.

Its just pixel char, u dont need pity anyone. less it talks then better.

 

Thats the thing though. I dont want to kill everyone I meet. Id like to maybe meet some friends. Maybe help save someone thats about to die.

Are the PVE servers all consenual pvp in them or is it full open PVE in just designated zones ? I dont like gankfest PVP servers but I also dont like the nice carebear consensual PVP stuff either. Id prefer PVP but in specified zones so I can choose when I want to pvp

Then go to a PVE server and just use the arenas...

Originally posted by Caligulug

 

 

Even the CB PvP server is a gank fest, hell funcom had to institute "rules" just so some testing could get done. Level 80s were going to the nooby area and ganking every person they saw.

I think this is the problem... Funcom has no rules setup to handle a PvP environment.  I'm sure eventually this will balance out as FC begins to "catch up to their work".

I personally am going to start off on a PvE server, as much as I love PvP.  Since FC hasn't even so much as hinted that they are going to have rules setup, these servers are shaping up to be a possible nightmare at launch.

And like someone above mentioned, being able to get banked right at the rez spot, and people killing you with the quest NPC view when you can't even defend yourself.  It's a griefer paradise, not to doubt.

Fixing those two issues alone would make the PvP servers 100 times better.  Maybe FC will toss in a quick-fix to the rez ganking, etc. before launch day... but it could be a while a patch or three post-launch before it gets addressed.

Two things they could throw in relatively easily.  They could make it so people that are in chat with a quest character are either not visible or invulnerable.  This would not extend to people running up to an NPC and trying to initiate conversation to get away from death.  They could also add in a timer after you have died.  say 1-5mins of not being able to attack or be attacked by PCs.  This would give the person plenty of time to get to a safe spot to get away from someone res camping.

I have a couple of dumb questions, but can someone please clarify something for me?

The PVP server gameplay will be how it was on the last day or two or of open beta, correct?  Anyone outside of cities can kill anyone else, even if they are in the same faction.

On the PVE servers, is it correct to say that you can only attack someone from the other two factions different from yours?  Also, is it going to be that you can only PVP in the PVP instances and BK's, and can't attack anyone in another faction in an outdoor zone?

The only thing I can find about it in the AoC site is the link below, and it doesn't tell me much.

community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi

Originally posted by Centhan

I have a couple of dumb questions, but can someone please clarify something for me?

The PVP server gameplay will be how it was on the last day or two or of open beta, correct?  Anyone outside of cities can kill anyone else, even if they are in the same faction.

On the PVE servers, is it correct to say that you can only attack someone from the other two factions different from yours?  Also, is it going to be that you can only PVP in the PVP instances and BK's, and can't attack anyone in another faction in an outdoor zone?

The only thing I can find about it in the AoC site is the link below, and it doesn't tell me much.

community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi

PVP servers are FFA.. Free For All.

PVE servers have no pvp other then duels or the instanced ones I think.

PVE is limited PVP in certain zones. (BattleKeep zones)

PVP is FFA PVP with respawn, zone-in camping..the works. Anyone can attack anyone, even your guildmembers (except in siege battle or in group).

RP-PVP is the same FFA PVP but with certain vague guideline against griefing and enforcing RP concept into the game.  That guideline is listed in their website forum. I don't know how they will enforce this.  Not much is known about this.

These are the servers available in Early Access.  The problem with Open Beta PVP weekend was that when you were killed by another player, you were supposed to receive a invulnerable buff just like when you die to NPC for about 30-40 sec.  This was to prevent respawn killing.  However, this feature was not put in and the mayhem started on that weekend which surprised the general players.  With limited access to level 13 and long load times, people didn't know how to use HIDE skills or even /instanceselection command when they reached 20th level and explored the world. 

As for choosing a server,  PVP servers will always have griefing but not to the extent of Open Beta PVP.  Your name and reputations will matter and guilds will formed to combat constant gankfesting.  Beginning of this server will be rough even if people are just leveling.  Someone will always out level you and gank you.  If you want to quest, you will have to be careful because sometimes people will camp quest NPC and kill you while you are reading the quest text.  That invulnerable buff MIGHT get into PVP server in order to prevent respawn camping.  If you are a casual player, then I would not recommend this server. 

For PVE server, you have no worries about ganking and you can kill NPC and do quest whenever you like.  If you want to PVP in this server, you have to goto BattleKeep zones to fight over like 9 key points against other guilds.  It does lose some shine of danger and caution people attacking you but if you have limited time, this server is for you.

Lastly, RP-PVP is not really known.  This server is same as PVP but you can't talk OOC in chats, no leet talks, no wierd names with numbers, no constant griefing of players, etc.  Again how will they enforce this?  I don't know.  There is only 1 server of this type for now (US) and I believe it will be heavily populated than regular PVP server.  All types of players (RP casual, PVP hardcore, etc) will roll into this server and you don't know what you will get.  I foresee more RP-PVP opening up soon after launch.

Personally, I will goto RP-PVP.  I am more of casual player but I can hold on my own PVP and I like to have the option of attacking other people or be attacked.  After playing PVE MMO for a while, it does get somewhat boring how nothing is changed if I kill NPC or finish a raid.  I have done that and I want to experience some new PVP action.  If things get out of hand, I can always get into PVE server. 

Originally posted by _Kyle_

Originally posted by admriker4

 

Originally posted by Arskaaa

Just kill every one u see, Its so simple.

Its just pixel char, u dont need pity anyone. less it talks then better.

 

Thats the thing though. I dont want to kill everyone I meet. Id like to maybe meet some friends. Maybe help save someone thats about to die.

Are the PVE servers all consenual pvp in them or is it full open PVE in just designated zones ? I dont like gankfest PVP servers but I also dont like the nice carebear consensual PVP stuff either. Id prefer PVP but in specified zones so I can choose when I want to pvp

Then go to a PVE server and just use the arenas...

pve server has all the pvp the pvp server has only you don't get raped during quests/lvling up. pluz the border kindgom might be funner on pve server as it will be busier than on pvp server.

Originally posted by Locklain

Two things they could throw in relatively easily.  They could make it so people that are in chat with a quest character are either not visible or invulnerable.  This would not extend to people running up to an NPC and trying to initiate conversation to get away from death.  They could also add in a timer after you have died.  say 1-5mins of not being able to attack or be attacked by PCs.  This would give the person plenty of time to get to a safe spot to get away from someone res camping.

Both ideas are sound to me. The PvP bloodbath was an irritation but the getting killed while talked to an NPC and being locked in a cut scene just plain ole sucked.

wait wait wait, timeout a sec, I haven't been following AoC very much admittedly but PVE servers?  They are going to put all the pvp on their own servers and let us pve folks do our thing?

If so I might look into it.