this conversation spans over years, but i would like to tell houndeye that Nyahe wasn't saying it was a bad game, he was saying that other people like games with good graphics and often totally ignore ones that look like this.  I mean, Nyahe's Icon is a Runescape character, Runescape is always made fun of for its graphics, but it is an amazing game with more to do in it then the majority of download and p2p games.