Originally posted by osc8r

AC1 w/ AC2 graphics, an update UI etc...

Now we're cooking!

Totally!

I would love AC2 omg yeah, If not that then give us the source code so we can make our own servers!

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Haha, yeah talk about getting ripped. They gave the expansion only a few months before announcing it was canceled. Even while it was known the game was being shut down, the expansion was still on the shelves being sold! It's one of the reasons I didn't try D&D or LotRO aside from the fact that those games have their own problems as it is.

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I remember reading about that expansion at the time and I think they made a mistake with it. They aimed it all at the higher end, really they should have aimed a little more at enticing new players to the game or having some kind of impressive features(like the pvp towns...) That is in part, why I never bought the game.

Would be nice to see ac2 back at least concider it TURBINE F2P maybe?

I would love to play AC2 again .. it was a nice game ...

I would play ac2 if it was darktide style had some damn good times on darktide:)

Originally posted by Thillian

Please Turbine, now when you have at least 300-400k subscribers from all your current games it would be possible to re-lunch Asheron's Call 2 servers. I realize it's probably not very-business wise at this stage, but there were still around 10k players at its termination and it would highly increase the company popularity by reopening one of the best MMO's ever made - AC2!

I don't think why they would care about 10k players, where most probably have moved on, enough to open a server for a dead game. It won't make them much money (having a team to service 10k players is not business-wise as you have pointed out) and the added "popularity" will probably not matter.

If they really want to do something for the community, the best option is to give a limited license to run their server software (for non-commercial purpose, of course) to the fans.

I realy dont see whats problem to give fans ac2 back as free game me and many bought expansion and 2 months later they announce they stop with ac2.

Im almost positive if ac2 would be relaunched as a free shards it would be succefull!

God, I was so dissapointed in AC2. All I was hoping for was AC1 with updated graphics and deeper gameplay.Instead they (Turbine) went the other way and gave us nice graphics with gameplay designed for the joystick/fire button crowd.

Just imagine AC with AoC's graphics.*sigh*

Originally posted by markfromindy

Just imagine AC with AoC's graphics.*sigh*

Throw in even greater character customization through more attributes and skills on top of this idea...

/signed for me.

AC3 might be a good idea or to uppgrade the original game but AC2 was never a good game.

If you want it I see only one solution: Buy it. Enough players together could maybe buy it out, can't be too expensive.

There was a reason the killed it off, few people wanted it.

AC2 was actually the best game I have ever played, and it was killed off to make room for DDO and lotro. Anyway, rumour is that AC2 is being ressurected outside the office of Turbine.

Kinda wish they would have just sold the rights to someone else.....And the game was not terrible they had a player-base larger than some mmos out now, even some with pretty big names ;) they just, as a previous poster stated, needed the man power to work on their newly aquired licenses'. Which was going to make them alot more money. So they did what they had to do, they canned AC2 and left AC because it was so profitable and alot cheaper to maintain compared to AC2. It was simply a buisness decision nothing more. 

 I would love to see them re-open AC2. :)
I know a lot of people from AC1 hates/hated AC2 but I wasn't one of them. I think people had unrealistic hopes and demands for AC2. They really just wanted a new AC1. :P
I don't believe for one second that an upgraded AC1 with new graphics, new UI etc. would ever be successful. Not today. I loved AC1 just like the rest of you but by todays standards, the game offers nothing. Most mmorpg players are now used to the ridiculously easy games. 'Challenging' is now almost considered a negative thing in mmorpgs. lol People want meaningless PvP, insane items, mounts, big flashing questionmarks over quest givers, identical characters all over the place etc. etc.
Unfortunately I think that a game like AC1 would be considered boring and hard by todays standards. The average age of mmorpg gamers is a lot lower today than it used to be and it seems like an easy win is more satisfying for most people than a challenging quest.

"What?! I have to think for myself?! I thought gaming was about having fun!! LAME!!" - I think that's how a lot of people see gaming today. ;)

Originally posted by BesCirga

AC2 was actually the best game I have ever played, and it was killed off to make room for DDO and lotro. Anyway, rumour is that AC2 is being ressurected outside the office of Turbine.

Unfortunately Turbine brought their lawers to bear on the site that was making the AC2 free shard. So that's dead for the time being, but I certainly wouldn't count them out since they have put years into it and was almost to the point of bringing it online.

As for the topic at hand, I think orginal AC players were expecting ACv2.0, but AC2 was one of the first of the 2nd generation of MMOs where companies began going for the casual market. Everything AC2 was doing, you saw WoW doing the same thing only a year or two later. Uo, EQ1, AC, DAoC... all the gen 1 MMOs use some pretty outdated mechanics compared to MMOs these days, and as much as people would like to believe death penalties, and grinding, and skill growth was what made games fun, the 2nd generation MMOs proved that the majority want instant gratification NOW. Unfortunately, that same mindset also effects games when they aren't ready NOW, and players leave in droves. Players want to get into game, be 'uber' from lvl 1, and once they are bored they leave.

AC2's biggest problem was Microsoft's involvement for so long. Once Turbine was free of them, they were able to make the game into something respectable, but it was to late by then. Microsoft not knowing what they wanted, and not letting Turbine do what they wanted to more or less doomed the game from the gate. Now if the game came out 6 months later(with no MS involvement), it would have been in much better shape and running to this day. It did have a good amount of content near the end, and the races were fairly original which made it stand out from the crowd, combat/PvP, once the servers got fixed up, was smooth and fast paced, and the community was one of the best in game and out.

Originally posted by golembane

Originally posted by BesCirga

AC2 was actually the best game I have ever played, and it was killed off to make room for DDO and lotro. Anyway, rumour is that AC2 is being ressurected outside the office of Turbine.

 

Unfortunately Turbine brought their lawers to bear on the site that was making the AC2 free shard. So that's dead for the time being, but I certainly wouldn't count them out since they have put years into it and was almost to the point of bringing it online.

I would bet my last Pyreal that they are not closing down

Originally posted by Loke666

AC3 might be a good idea or to uppgrade the original game but AC2 was never a good game.

If you want it I see only one solution: Buy it. Enough players together could maybe buy it out, can't be too expensive.

There was a reason the killed it off, few people wanted it.

I usually don't disagree with your posts, but at least in my opinion, you are extremely off with this one.

Asheron's Call 2 failed because it had a horrible release and almost no advertising at all right before the launch. They filled the original Asheron's Call subscribers heads with promises making them believe it would be the spiritual successor to the original, which it wasn't.

The game, especially towards the end, the last two years or so, the game was improved 1000x what it was when it launched. Even back when I played on Darktide and we had a population of 95-150 on peak hours, the game offered way more than it did at launch.

People weren't ready for a game like it. If it would of originally launched within the last three or four years I doubt it would of turned out the same. It was ahead of it's time then, it just wasn't ironed out until it closed. But when it closed, the game was a great game, it just suffered from population.

And Turbine has no plans on selling the title, they still have part of the franchise running. The AC2 emu was doing great, you could log in and run around, then Turbine shut it down. Sad, really, I was looking forward to it. I'd go back to AC2 over anything out right now, on Darktide, at least.

i think they should start it back up maybe as an added subscription to ac1, or something to that extent . no updates unless it generates that kinda money flow, they could always add different subscricption plans.

AC2 EMU.  That's your only option and it's not great.

AC2 was awesome, way ahead of its time.  The fact that its engine churned out DDO and LotRO kind of points to the fact that AC2 launched today would be as successful but at that time, the engine was still a work in progress.  The ideas were great, the graphics were great, the gameplay was great... the network engine/launcher just weren't there yet.

After playing AC2, even playing EQ post engine upgrade, AC was a non starter.  Resserect AC2, just make it free to download because I tossed my box ;)