http://www.heroengine.com/new_features.asp

Jonny

Nice this toolset looks incredibly flexible and intuitive...

This company spend more ressources on their engine then creating a MMO.  They sure have a nice engine though...

/snickers

Originally posted by senadin

This company spend more ressources on their engine then creating a MMO.  They sure have a nice engine though...

 

 

/snickers

As HJ is developed collateral from that development can be used to enhance the engine and vice versa. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the 3rd parties developing games using the engine aren't also contributing to enhancements and idea as long as they are generic.

But to just make a sweeping statement when you don't know the development state of HJ is ammusing .. keep up the entertainment.

No it isnt an assumption, the only news that have come out of those guys in nearly a year is only and always about their engine.

People need to stop making excuses and defending something that honestly my kids might be playing, one day.

The facts are there, SIMU simply due to the nature and how their business model is setup (no stock holders) has to answer to no one. Sometimes stockholders pushing for a product is a good thing!

You claim i make an assumption, yet you make one yourself!

"It wouldnt surprise me...bla bla bla."

Hello Kettle!

It's true and false all at the same time, since working on the engine is the same as working on their game in this case.  It is not a "one thing without the other" process.  They both get worked on side by side, one's progress helping the other.

Originally posted by senadin

No it isnt an assumption, the only news that have come out of those guys in nearly a year is only and always about their engine.

 

People need to stop making excuses and defending something that honestly my kids might be playing, one day.

The facts are there, SIMU simply due to the nature and how their business model is setup (no stock holders) has to answer to no one. Sometimes stockholders pushing for a product is a good thing!

You claim i make an assumption, yet you make one yourself!

 

 

"It wouldnt surprise me...bla bla bla."

 

Hello Kettle!

 

 

Originally posted by senadin  

The facts are there, SIMU simply due to the nature and how their business model is setup (no stock holders) has to answer to no one. Sometimes stockholders pushing for a product is a good thing!

I can list several games that would prove that wrong.

Shadowbane, for instance, still had a month (or a few months) left of development, but the developing company (Wolfpack) were told to release it early by the distribution company (Ubisoft), and they really had no choice but to do as they were told. Now, they can only literally give the game away. It was so broken, it was the only game I ever played that literally crashed constantly through no fault of my computer, because it wasn't ready to be released.

Then there's Horizons, Vanguard, etc.

Rushing a game is never a good thing. When HJ is ready, it will be out. Simu isn't about to run out of money anytime soon, with revenue from their MUD games and liscencing the engine. And I'm confident that if they take the time to make sure its ready before releasing it and fixing the problems later (which ends up disillusioning their players), it will be a fantastic game.

People had this exact same mentality with WOW. It was labeled Vapourware for years.

When it finially was released, it had relitively few issues and has been a rock ever since.

With one big and MAJOR difference!

Blizzard has produced and developed best seller games before, and many of them at that!

Simutronics hasn't!

Believe it or not, the general population hasn't heard of Hero's Journey. SImu hasn't gone out of their way to advertise. So what's the problem?

They'll advertise when beta comes out and the every-day schmo won't know the difference, they won't care how long it's been in development.

Originally posted by Valendros

Believe it or not, the general population hasn't heard of Hero's Journey. SImu hasn't gone out of their way to advertise. So what's the problem?

 

Also to say they havent gone out of their way might be true for this past year and a bit, However they were at various conventions prior to the last few years and they even won best of show for E3 a few years back as rated by this very website. So to say they havent advertised is wrong!

Originally posted by senadin

 

Originally posted by Valendros

Believe it or not, the general population hasn't heard of Hero's Journey. SImu hasn't gone out of their way to advertise. So what's the problem?

 

Believe it or not, the General population has ...forgotten Hero's Journey, is a more appropriate statement.

 

 

Also to say they havent gone out of their way might be true for this past year and a bit, However they were at various conventions prior to the last few years and they even won best of show for E3 a few years back as rated by this very website. So to say they havent advertised is wrong!

 

Well, yes, but the general public do not usually go to conventions or E3. So, while us gaming nerds would keep up with that, most people don't, I don't think.

See i dont believe for one second that Simu is mainstream to begin with.

For example, i have been playing MUD/MMO for quite a long time. Until i heard of HJ here back in 2004 or so, i havent heard of Simu. I heard of some of their game but very VERY briefly. I consider myself fairly well versed in the gaming world and i keep upt to date fairly well.

If myself couldnt have heard of SImu or of any of their game before do you honestly think that mainstream folks will?