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Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Forum » General Discussion » Why do we remember the old games being the best games?

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  muffins89

Novice Member

Joined: 10/15/12
Posts: 1254

12/11/12 2:12:57 PM#21
gamers are addicts.  the first hit is always the best.

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  ThomasN7

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Joined: 3/17/07
Posts: 6671

"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.” - Mordin Solus

12/11/12 2:13:20 PM#22
It was more about making a great game first and worrying about business models was a secondary thought.
  Seilan

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Joined: 7/30/04
Posts: 804

"Blue, blue."

12/11/12 2:16:09 PM#23
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by Icewhite

Psychologists rightly point out that when we review the past we feel we have lost we tend to romanticize it. In other words, we suffer from selective memory which tends to forget what was unpleasant and remember what was good. We refer to the past as "the good old days."

You may think this is a personal problem. Interestingly enough, those who have studied personal and collective memory assert that our individual memories are highly susceptible to the social forces of the collective memory. I share a few quotes from an article on the subject to give you a sense of what is at work so that you may consider that what sticks to you may not even belong to you.

Cultural memory studies...address what Paul Ricoeur so aptly labeled “the mnemonic phenomenon,” the dialogical process through which collectivities recall the past in light of present concerns that are in part shaped by this very past that is being recalled and refashioned in the present.

According to Maurice Halbwachs (1877–1945) ... [in] his late in life work On Collective Memory, published posthumously in 1950, memory is not only essentially a reconstruction of the past in light of the present, but also a process largely determined by social forces beyond the control of a single individual.

Michel Foucault ... drew attention to the phenomenon he termed countermemory. A countermemory can be fictive in nature, or it can be a form of excessive remembrance of one event at the expense of other events... .Foucault’s term has also been expanded to apply to another kind of memory, namely fictively romanticizing the past so as to promote an agenda in the present. Nostalgia, never a reliable lens on the past, can be regarded as a kind of countermemory.

Romanticizing the Past is a Conditioned Response.

In short, it's something we learn from other gamers on message boards.

Well there is that possibility and then there is also the possibility that some people simply preferred certain games which happen to have been made some time in the past.

Exactly. I, for one, started with EQ originally, and while I really enjoyed my time in the game, I can clearly see the flaws. I can also appreciate some of the systems that games like it, and others like UO, Asheron's Call, and Ryzom introduced.

It's not a matter of "rose-tinted glasses" for me, it's that many of the older games just seem genuinely of a higher production quality, from my experience anyway.

  ObiClownobi

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Joined: 12/02/12
Posts: 189

12/11/12 2:16:25 PM#24
Because they were filled with people who were able to meaningfully interact in a online world. Now 9 out of 10 people are U NOOB LRN 2 PLY types.


"It's a sandbox, if you are not willing to create a castle then all you have is sand" - jtcgs

  Icewhite

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Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

12/11/12 2:18:33 PM#25
Originally posted by ObiClownobi
Because they were filled with people who were able to meaningfully interact in a online world. Now 9 out of 10 people are U NOOB LRN 2 PLY types.

:shrug:  You asked for massive, ya got massive.

Gotta accept the drawbacks.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  mindw0rk

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Joined: 8/31/06
Posts: 1367

12/11/12 2:20:19 PM#26
Coz of Nostalgy. First MMO is like first love. My first was WoW, but I still consider EVE to be the best MMORPG on market. 
  Mawnee

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/16/12
Posts: 185

12/11/12 2:23:04 PM#27
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by wormed

Because old games were actually good. Game designers strived to make a good, challenging game; something that they enjoyed just as much as we would. Nowadays it's all about the almight dollar. Push out as much pretty aesthetics with crap gameplay, get initial sales, then hold people hostage with DLC.

I hate the state of games today. Gone are the days when games are made for people to use their brains and LEARN. It's all silver spoon fed, fisher price, garbage. :( I'm clearly jaded!

This ^

This^ x10

  ZombieKen

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/30/10
Posts: 4410

Zombie - Dead but still moving.

12/11/12 2:33:15 PM#28

The old games were smaller, less featured, and had fewer visual enhancements as part of development.

 

This forced the developer to focus on gameplay, so of course the gameplay was better (for people who prefer gameplay over graphics).

 

In modern games, it seems that gameplay is just an after-thought tacked on to high resolution high poly graphics, visual effects, voice acting, cut-scenes, and storyline interaction.

 

MSOTSG with PPE : Massively Single-player Online Task-driven Storyline Game with Purchasable Performance Enhancements *grin*

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