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Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted General Article: Special Report, Part II

In the second part of Carolyn Koh's special reports on Horizons the EI Interactive takeover, she looks at payment issues, the vulnurability report and more.

By Carolyn Koh on December 21, 2006

Horizons: Special Report, Part II (Page 3 of 3)

What Next? Will there be an Act 3?

In regards to information about complaints made to the Attorney General’s office, we managed to track down player “Menkure” who made such a complaint. From the questions we asked and the information received, it boiled down to the same reasons that others have had cause to complain: a lack of communication from EI Interactive.

“I tried calling EI's offices (Both their main office number in Tennessee, as well as the office in Butte, Montana), but was unable to get anyone alive. I left several messages, but no attempts were made to return my calls.

“In frustration, I posted a rebuttal to Dr. Rask in my thread, which was deleted rather quickly. When it became apparent that I was being given the run-a-round, I proceeded to file a complaint with the Attorney General's Office for my home state. They forwarded my complaint to the Office of the Attorney General for the state of Montana, and I was in contact with their office the next day (August 7th).

“Since August 16th, I've not received any further notices from the Montana AG in regards to EII or their investigation. Seeing that now EII has a 1-800 number for people to call if they wish to cancel, and that the erroneous billing has seemed to have stopped, I feel that the matter is pretty much at its end.”

Communication continues to be spotty between EI Interactive and Horizon players, and players continue to ask for information and assurance. To date, players are still concerned about the viability of EI Interactive and Horizons. The only official spokesman for EI Interactive is Nicholas “Nagafen” Dobbins so when he is missing for more than ten days, players notice and begin to post “Where is Nagafen” threads, seeking answers. Here and here.

Business as Usual

Company takeovers are not stress free. Former employees often find themselves in the untenable positions of having to train their replacements. New owners can find a host of unexpected problems that crop up after an acquisition is complete. Customers are sometimes left bewildered and wondering if service will continue.

EI Communications Corp owns EI Interactive as well as game portal sites such as gameintruder.com and mygamehaven.com. The purchase of Horizons has provided a large email list for their marketing efforts. What do we mean? In our efforts to learn if Horizons players had been informed via email about the change in billing service as expressed EI Interactive, we checked with several players who had not, but did forward newsletters from gameintruder which unfortunately, did not have an “unsubscribe” link.

The takeover is complete, the billing issue seems to be resolved… but what next? EI Interactive retained some Tulga employees to see them through the transition. Some allegations were made in their forums by Dr. Raymond Rask that EI Interactive had encountered some hindrance, but the remarks were quickly deleted.

Since then, we have received multiple allegations that checks received by some independent contractors have been returned for insufficient funds, among them programmer Jeff Gully and former MMORPG.com Staff Writer Michael Hampden. Mr. Andercheck declined comment on these matters.

Moving Forward

Since the takeover, EI Interactive has moved forward with their own plans for Horizons. A recent Halloween Event was held and was evidenced in an IRC chat held in October will be moving towards more server (shard) specific lore.

In a press release dated November 28, 2006:

“11/28/06- Carson City, NV- Pixel Magic Entertainment Corporation announced today their acquisition of Enhanced Interactive Communications Corporation. Enhanced Interactive Communications Corporation is the parent company of online game publisher EI Interactive.”

Pixel Magic Entertainment lists three directors of which Ed Andercheck, formerly of EI Interactive is one.

A quick search of public databases revealed that Pixel Magic Entertainment Corporation was incorporated in the State of Nevada by a statutory agency company on November 14, 2006 and the domain created November 9, 2006.

Ed Andercheck explained the new company as an amalgamation of a group of companies. Pixel Magic, he admitted, is a new entity, but as group they had all existed and consulted together independently for quite some time.

He added that the move also means more developer resources will soon be allocated to the project, something they simply didn’t have access to before. He joined the board as part of the initial deal.

Some of the early goals from the new parent about EI is to reverse engineer and document all the underlying code that makes Horizons work. To date, they own the game, but largely have little that tells them how to work with it, let alone expand upon it.

Andercheck was also excited about the idea of a league of historians, which is a new player led content initiative that revolves around guilds. It’s a platform for guilds to shape the world’s history, we were told.

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graill writes:

will this game just die already. as i have stated in previous posts, the games owners are not to be trusted. they have not, and will not to this date help any customers in any direct way, old or new.

whether it was tulga or the new owners, they both were on track with one another, deny problems, silence the community, and throw out the tag line "its not our problem". too much bad blood in this game and an example of what not to do to your player base by both companies. does anyone wonder why the new company conducts business as tulga did? who is with this new company that has these tendancies...........bowman maybe?.

also sad to see bowman still employed with the new company even in a consultation capacity the individual is simply dishonest. i would have called him a thief directly but i wouldnt want my thread bounced.

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12/21/06 8:03:55 PM
 
gopher65 writes:

Originally posted by graill

also sad to see bowman still employed with the new company even in a consultation capacity the individual is simply dishonest. i would have called him a thief directly but i wouldnt want my thread bounced.



Umm... David Bowman isn't working for this company in any way shape or form. He moved to Texas and works for the new Bungie split-off (I can't remember the name of the company, but it just went public. They are currently working on some halo 2 maps, and have hinted in an interview that they are working on their own consol title as well).

Not only does bowman not work for EII/PME, he doesn't even work on MMOGs any more:P. Do you even read the gaming news sites, or do you just yank random words out of the air?

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12/21/06 8:30:48 PM
 
Estrus writes:
OY
Will someone stick a fork in this SOAP opera already!!  
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12/21/06 9:13:49 PM
 
dand3 writes:
Solidly researched.  Nice job, seemed better founded than part 1.
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12/21/06 9:49:43 PM
 
uncus writes:

"solidly researched?!" No, this is all OLD NEWS except for the last 3 paragraphs or so [the part about Pixel taking over from IE - and even that is month old news!]

 

News Flash:  Julius Ceasar stabbed at Senate!  More at 11!

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12/22/06 4:48:45 AM
 
docminus writes:
gosh, they treated the community equally bad as SOE did with the all the SWG changes.
I am glad I got my cancellation through and only played the trial, and did get my refund.
A shame, I think the game had potential.
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mikesterbrau writes:

   Sadly when this all falls apart once and for all some of these folks will then be qualified to write the how not to do it manual.  The game had some great ideas and potential but the implementation and execution from early on was awfull.   The player community for the game must be the most patient kind hearted group in gaming though.   I never played the game but tried to keep an eye on it in the hopes it might turn around but alas things only seem to be getting worse.  I even had thoughts that maybe during a vacation I might download the try and give it a look but now I feel totally uncomfortable even doing that.

 

 

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12/22/06 9:45:27 AM
 
shae writes:

Wow, the amazing research award goes to Carolyn this year :).

Very well done article, well writen, well explained and very informative.

Thanks for all the work.

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12/22/06 9:59:12 AM
 
thepatriot writes:
What a sad sad tale and a pathetic attempt at fixing their reputation by forming a new company.  Hey, I have an idea, why don't you actually treat your customers with respect.
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12/22/06 10:27:58 AM
 
PeterRJG writes:

As much as I've bagged HZ, it's exceedingly sad to see the road this game is its few diehards have had to go down.

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12/22/06 12:11:53 PM
 
Robbgobb writes:
I enjoyed the game but did not have time to invest at the time to learn all I needed. I left but was waiting to come back. I heard it was sold and decided to wait and see. Am I ever glad that I did wait and I don't know if I will ever go back. People complain about Sony but my only true problem with them is when they said I had an Everquest account and had never bought the game. They set me up with the download and everything even though I said I never had the game. I don't hate Sony though I don't say the people who don't want anything to do with them is wrong. What is going on with Horizons though scares me and I will stay away. I appreciate the article even is not really any new information.
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12/22/06 2:52:45 PM
 
Mustasio writes:
Again, wonderful job by Miss Carolyn Koh, looks like she put some real work into this.

I guess Andercheck learned that taking over an MMOG game company is sort of like taking over a sports team, except every single fan travels with the team.  The community of an MMO game IS the MMO, and to ignore and mistreat them is the worst idea you could have.  I can't help think that if Horizons didn't already have such a devoted player base, then it never would of gotten off the ground with Andercheck.

-Mustasio


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12/22/06 5:02:32 PM
 
LordSlater writes:

Originally posted by Mustasio
Again, wonderful job by Miss Carolyn Koh, looks like she put some real work into this.

I guess Andercheck learned that taking over an MMOG game company is sort of like taking over a sports team, except every single fan travels with the team.  The community of an MMO game IS the MMO, and to ignore and mistreat them is the worst idea you could have.  I can't help think that if Horizons didn't already have such a devoted player base, then it never would of gotten off the ground with Andercheck.

-Mustasio




Its a real genuine shame about what happened to this game. It really was, this game actually ahd some potential of having some trully unique atributes one of which was that one of the races i belive was not even humanoid [Dragon's].

 

I will however hope that this new company will find a way to drag this game back toa working title with a decent level of lag rather than what was there when i tried it last time.

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12/22/06 5:54:32 PM
 
gatheris writes:

it sounds - from the last part of the article - that the clueless are trying to get a clue on how to build an MMO

i doubt that there are intentions to improve Horizons however - but to build a new one (like everyone and their grandmother) without the bad associations that Horizons has

of course i am wearing my tinfoil hat as usual

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12/22/06 6:32:13 PM
 
Kyote writes:
I have played nearly every MMORPG out there and my opinion of Horizons is not fit for print.  I never thought I would ever see a game have a worse opening day than Anarchy Online did.. but amazingly enough this game was worse. 
At least AO went on to finally correct their mistakes and build a pretty decent game (too little too late to get back all subscribers they could have had..but oh well) 

I bought Horizons because I was nostalgic for Atari and thought .. wow they have a history of making games, this could be good.  Five minutes after I bought it I was pulling my hair out.  I waited 2 days for the updates to finally finish.. then I find that it is so poorly optomized and was based on a system of loading the scenery, etc as you moved that no one in the game could move more than 5 feet a minute unless they were on a T3.

after a week of total unplayability, wasted emails and phonecalls trying to see how to finally get it to run I gave up and contacted the walmart that my wife worked at to return this piece of garbage.  Lo and behold, she informed me that this particular game had so many people trying to return it that they had pulled it off the shelves and were not taking any kind of exchanges on it. you had to send it back to the distributor, which also refused to take it.  The game store down the block said even "kinder" things about the game.

I also had the worst time in the world unsubscribing to this crap of a game.  There is no use blaming the new owners, or even Tulga, this game has stunk since the start. 

I agree it had some great ideas and at the time some good crafting ideas and I really was looking forward to it...so much that even after my inital bad experience I went back and tried it again a year later and then a few months ago.. sadly both times I erased it from my hard drive after less than a day.  It is just unplayable and always was.

I will never be happier to see a game die than this 49.99 nightmare.
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12/22/06 11:31:18 PM
 
spajdr writes:
I still didnt get my money back, they charged me for trial and never answered
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12/23/06 5:49:59 PM
 
aviendeha writes:
Ive played just about every fantasy based MMORPG out there and i loved this game, still miss it at times, but had to leave it behind due to the poor management and the fact that they broke more things then they fixed. Why dosent the community just stop getting bent over by the companies and EMU Horizons?
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12/25/06 3:44:32 AM
 
Menkure writes:

 


Originally posted by aviendeha
Ive played just about every fantasy based MMORPG out there and i loved this game, still miss it at times, but had to leave it behind due to the poor management and the fact that they broke more things then they fixed. Why dosent the community just stop getting bent over by the companies and EMU Horizons?


Emulating Horizons is next to impossible without some amazing server hardware and resources.

Here is the information about server specs for the Horizons shards, as told by Amon Gwareth on another forum:


 


Amon Gwareth:

Current server runs on Xeons. not sure about a Woodcrest. Most ram you'd need would be 4gb per server box. Harddrive needs are negligible as its all database driven. You would need a database server, I have no idea what their requirements are or how many you'd need.

The big costs are of course, the servers themselves up front and then the power, cooling and especially bandwidth.


 


Amon Gwareth: 

You cannot get the footprint down to 2-3 servers. Not if you want monsters enabled and more than 10 players online at a time.

 

As for why you need such a powerful server farm to run a Horizons shard, another poster by the name of Dangit (Who used to be the lead moderator for Tazoon.com, and later for the main community site run by Tulga) posted this in the same thread:


 


Dangit:

The original server code was written to make heavy use of the ram. And at the time was hitting against the 2GB (or maybe 4GB) ram limit that MBs and OS had at the time. To make use of more ram than that, the server code has to be rewritten. The server uses a lot of memory.. 15MB per character 1.5 per other entity. An Entity is anything the player interacts with. Monster, resource node, machine etc. (I believe those numbers are correct) Then you have all the memory taken up by other aspects.

From my own experience what I have found is you need 3 Servers with at least 2.0GHz Xeons, 4GB ram 60GB hard drives. And a database raid server with about 80GB.

That would be able to support about 150 people with enough monsters and resource spawning to keep some people happy. But your map size would be about the size of Lesser Aradoth.

Increase your land size and you will be adding another server. Otherwise performance becomes too erratic



-Menkure

 

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Vandie writes:
 Sad to say  the new owners seem to be clueless. I have not had  any kind kind of reasonable response from them  nor to any exten any reason to get the warm fuzzy feeling  that  you should. I Invested a lot of time  blood sweat and yes ,tears into Horizons  when  I finally  had hope that the One craft school i actually loved was going to be  fixed and  finished  the rug got pulled out from under my dreams. Needless to say  recent events show that  My dearly  loved game  is  going to fade into the bits and bytes  of  the  once loved. 
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xauss writes:

graill said:-

will this game just die already. as i have stated in previous posts, the games owners are not to be trusted. they have not, and will not to this date help any customers in any direct way, old or new.

hmmm, ok you dont like it, why keep on about it - just dont play it....

uncus said:-

"solidly researched?!" No, this is all OLD NEWS except for the last 3 paragraphs or so [the part about Pixel taking over from IE - and even that is month old news!]

 News Flash:  Julius Ceasar stabbed at Senate!  More at 11!

lol - though many dont have the time / inclination to follow the trials and tribulations behind the scenes of MMOGs, so any reporting of this type from MMORPG.com is appreciated

thepatriot said:-

What a sad sad tale and a pathetic attempt at fixing their reputation by forming a new company.  Hey, I have an idea, why don't you actually treat your customers with respect.

this sounds suspiciously like common sense, wrapped around the truth

kyote said:-

It is just unplayable and always was.

it certainly had (lol has) its problems, but i fear you were playing it on an abacus, even my pretty ropey laptop could make a satisfactory attempt at running it.

the facts are... the game is too long in the tooth to warrant the premium subscription rates (it should be <$10/month - $25/quarter). at least that is what it should be without the thieving ineptitude, getting anyone to pay anything now will be difficult

a company treating the clientele like sh1t deserves to fail

the reputation of the game and the companies involved with it are all tainted, so best thing for it would be for those that care - the community to "stop getting bent over by the companies and EMU Horizons." aviendeha dec. 2006

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liddokun writes:
Kinda sad to see the state of the game that I used to love gone to the dogs.
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12/27/06 2:29:39 AM
 
TherosIron writes:

An update to this ongoing saga

Andercheck is incorrect billing on some accounts is still borked and are still being over billed.

Not everyone has been refunded

And now they shut the test server ( Blight ) to use the hardware for the new Unitas ( old unity ) people.

Blight based players are now with out a home and the email address eii/pm supplied was non operational for five days.

The official forum is heavily modded to suppress the outcries about this.

End result : No Blight Shard no further development contrary to what eii/pm will report

Since taking over in July '06 horizons EII/Pm or whatever they call themselves have flushed customers down the gurgler at every change they have implimented.

I have no trust in Andercheck nor faith in the company he runs

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12/27/06 5:03:30 PM
 
liddokun writes:
Horizons is a great game with a great concept. Unfortunately it was grossly mishandled and mismanaged by crooked people who doesn't really care about the game.
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12/28/06 6:50:32 PM
 
mikesterbrau writes:
Originally posted by Mustasio
Again, wonderful job by Miss Carolyn Koh, looks like she put some real work into this.

I guess Andercheck learned that taking over an MMOG game company is sort of like taking over a sports team, except every single fan travels with the team.  The community of an MMO game IS the MMO, and to ignore and mistreat them is the worst idea you could have.  I can't help think that if Horizons didn't already have such a devoted player base, then it never would of gotten off the ground with Andercheck.

-Mustasio



   That is such an awesome observation Mustasio!   I admit that in weak moments I wanted to try the trial and am so glad I did not and am 100% sure now I will never go near that game after all I have ready though the Guild and building aspects still catch me fancy.  :)
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12/28/06 7:08:34 PM
 
Rhoklaw writes:

I remember beta testing this game and I think a lot of the testers were on some sort of floating city or something. As a special treat, David Bowman decided to unveil what an ancient flying dragon looked like by flying in as one and landing nearby. I never did buy the game, which apparently was a good thing, but the game in itself seemed to have a pretty solid crafting system. It was a sad day when Shadowbane died, but atleast its still playable for free. Perhaps they should do that with Horizons, cause I doubt anyone would pay to play it now, no matter who owns it.

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12/31/06 2:24:51 AM
 
Holyavenger1 writes:
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Perhaps they should do that with Horizons, cause I doubt anyone would pay to play it now, no matter who owns it.




You got a point there. After so many disastrous misshaps, who can trust this game and their owners (no matter hwo often they change their names :P) anymore. I guess they have heck of a long way to come before they regain the trust of the MMO planet.

At any rate, Horizons' story is a ludicrous one, to say the least.
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12/31/06 2:08:09 PM
 
sakshale writes:

I started out in the beta and canceled my account a few months after it went live. I really wanted to like the game as it had so much going for it, including one of the best crafting systems. However, there was always something screwy on the management side, leading to a YARTEQ -- Yet Another Return To EverQuest.

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1/02/07 9:26:34 PM
 
DubonEngeven writes:
I have never tried Horizons, but i saw it a while back and thought it may be worth a try since ive tried every other MMO. So I did some checking and ended up here. I really though Horizons was a good idea and could of been turned into a good game had a good company bought it it may have. As it stands this game appears to be driving into the ground at a rapid rate with no hope of recovery.

Not only is it failing to keep customers but is ripping the customers off by continuing to bill repeatedly for the same month. This game be shut down soon at the current rate. Who knows perhaps they will sell Horizons to a company that will do something useful with it, but thats a most likely a dream.

I hope their entire company has to declare bankruptcy by the time this is over, doubt they will but they deserver it.

EI dont seem to care about their customers and with out a mutual respect no one will trust them.
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