It's completely retarded. It's all questing and only instanced dungeons/caves. You can only get experience from doing these quests and it's ridiculous. I understand the D&D 3rd ed rules, but the whole ANY race can be ANY class goes a little far when you see a huge War race being a sorcerer or a wizzy or even worse, a rogue or ranger. I mean come on. The combat is flat and dull as well. It's like an XBOX or PS2 console game as far as combat goes. In fact the whole game is like playing on a console. What is wrong with these developers??

You click your mouse button to keep swinging your sword a few times until the mob goes down, only really taking 2-3 hits at the most. It's completely pathetic.

DDO is bad. In fact, I'd rather be playing SWG with the NGE and all. What were the devs thinking when they implemented this game?

Bah.

Yeah I have to agree. They said that combat would be innovative and refreshing. No. It's dull. It's just as dull as point and click, just worse since you actually have to click 3 times. By that time the mob should be gone.

Just curious, but have you played the game yet?

Yea I deleted the piece of crap after playing for about 2-3 hours trying different classes and it's all the same crap.  The interface sucks, the combat is horrible, and the "instanced quests" are ridiculous for a MMORPG.  There is absolutely NO exp for hunting mobs, in fact there are NO mobs except in the quests themselves.  It's a complete joke.  

The game lacks content, the game lacks originality, and it's really ...well...just lame.  I can't believe Turbine would even think about releasing this game the way it is.  It just plain sucks.

Any way to test it ourselves?

personally, i LIKE the NGE (minus the bugs) and i would like to see a well done real time combat system (Something like a ninja gaiden or god of war type MMO, no idea how anyone would pull it of) havent played it, even with this bad review, it peaks my interest.

I doubt a real-time combat system is possible. Lots of people are complaining that they should have made the NGE into a MMOFPS without actually understanding the underlying mechanics behind managing something like that. There's a reason why CounterStrike games are restricted to a maximum of around 32 players. MMOs are by nature low-bandwidth games to account for thousands of players logged onto one server. Even Planetside isn't a true FPS and takes many liberties such as big hitboxes and no damage calculation according to where you hit.

Isn't there an NDA or something? And it's still in beta right? For someone to be beta testing and saying it sucks, well what game didn't suck in beta? Correct me if I'm wrong but I find it underhanded to report on a game in beta.

There's a difference between a game that's incomplete and a game that just plain sucks because the idea was bad. For example, I was in the Matrix Online beta. Within 10 minutes, I could tell that the game was based on a very poor system and probably wasn't going to be very popular.

Even if it is 3 clicks to kill, it cant be as dull as the WoW "click once, then go make myself a sandwich, then come back and ive killed the guy"

Well what youre saying is that you cant have more than 30 people all going nuts with guns blazing all at once, with accurate hitboxes? Maybe I'm missing the point but maybe thats why the game is instanced, so that they can keep the players from having massive battles all at once, and they apparently wont have PvP at launch. I'm probably wrong about this as I have no experience with large servers, or how the servers work for MMO's, but its just a thought.

which, while I haven't played much D&D, is what I am looking for, an MMO that is less about uber loot and stats and more about individual player choices to win a battle. I always felt it was my character, not I who was fighing and winning the battles, which doesn't have the same satisfaction for me.

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Originally posted by Yagzur
There is no massive zerging, combat is usually based on a quest that the DM made (which usually means xp from mobs while doing the quest not just random mob grinding for xp ) and players using their wits to fight and survive rather than the high end "stuff" to carry them thru everything.

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This opens up the huge potential for abuse right here. If players are allowed to create their own campaigns and whatnot, people can just create campaigns where there are a ton of weak monsters and they can create an attack macro and walk away. Plus, as Face of Mankind has shown us, you cannot rely on the community to come up with good content.

  Don't get me wrong.  The Game isn't horrible, just nothing special.  And the beta is good for a beta but the idea of a revolution in gaming is wrong.  Perhaps pen and paper D&D, should stay pen and paper?  And yes in an indirect way, I violated the NDA but I did so after I quit the beta and deleted the whole thing.  Since I am no longer playing, I am under no obligation to hold back with critques.  Besides that, I think it is a normal, decent game with D&D "wrapping paper".  This is not horrific by any means, just not good enough in mechanics nor substance to warrant the buzz it is getting from Betas and Non-betas.

Random question. Is anyone here who has called it quits on beta willing to give/trade their slot?

...Well, it couldn't hurt to ask.

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Originally posted by joejccva

It's completely retarded. It's all questing and only instanced dungeons/caves. You can only get experience from doing these quests and it's ridiculous. I understand the D&D 3rd ed rules, but the whole ANY race can be ANY class goes a little far when you see a huge War race being a sorcerer or a wizzy or even worse, a rogue or ranger. I mean come on. The combat is flat and dull as well. It's like an XBOX or PS2 console game as far as combat goes. In fact the whole game is like playing on a console. What is wrong with these developers??

You click your mouse button to keep swinging your sword a few times until the mob goes down, only really taking 2-3 hits at the most. It's completely pathetic.

DDO is bad. In fact, I'd rather be playing SWG with the NGE and all. What were the devs thinking when they implemented this game?

Bah.

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Just because any race can be any class doesn't mean people are always going to chose to be a "dwarf wizard" for the stats,  maybe for the uniqueness though.  I fail to see how more options is a bad thing.  EQ2 did the exact same thing, btw.

I completely disagree about your comment that the combat is dull.  The combat in this game is more interactive than most MMOs on the market right now.  How many MMOs do you know where you can actually dodge arrows and fireballs?   A combat thats boring is one where you click to attack...go AFK for a sandwich and come back to see the target dead  (i.e. EQ)

especially if youre a melee fighter :(