Originally posted by Duilyon

I think the MMO community will play a GOOD Sci-fi MMO. Just look at EVE online! They have a thriving community because it is a quality game with a good amount of content and creativity. Even if its a rather complicated game it still gets a lot of subscriptions.

 

If tabula rasa actually got good updates that would actually add some content then this game would be just as big as SWG. It would probably still be a niche game but the population would be that of DDOs and such. Which isn't bad by any means.

 

So its not the fact that its a Sci-fi game its the fact that it lacks content and polish.

While you have some good points there, you're missing a few facts.

Eve population was disastrously low during the first 2 years of existence, and then it exploded to the level we know today.I know I had 3 accounts from day 1, sold my last one last week.

That said EVE had just about no content in terms of quests/missions or npc's, NPC were basically the same ships player flew cept for stats and few cosmetics.

The game was riddled with bugs and bad support during the first year, you could make your opponent (network)lag so much,that you could destroy his ship, pod the guy and then loot his ship, before he could even finish loading the zone.

Since then they added cloaking zoning, fixed cops, added tons of ships, modified the weapon system, basically after two years they got it right with the help of thousands of paying beta players...

I guess people tend to forget big players like Blizzard and WoW, does anyone remember how it was back then?The first year of WoW?Empty zones, not even one friggin NPC, PvP instances, siege, hero class didn't even existed, although it was promised.

Give an mmo at least a year or two before dragging it into the mud.

TR has a strong combat system, tons of missions, few bugs, now they need to fix the game so people like it.Add more fun stuff to do, high end grinding, better PvP, I dunno maybe unlock a new zone or raise lvl cap.

Originally posted by BoudahXL

Originally posted by Duilyon

I think the MMO community will play a GOOD Sci-fi MMO. Just look at EVE online! They have a thriving community because it is a quality game with a good amount of content and creativity. Even if its a rather complicated game it still gets a lot of subscriptions.

 

If tabula rasa actually got good updates that would actually add some content then this game would be just as big as SWG. It would probably still be a niche game but the population would be that of DDOs and such. Which isn't bad by any means.

 

So its not the fact that its a Sci-fi game its the fact that it lacks content and polish.

 

While you have some good points there, you're missing a few facts.

Eve population was disastrously low during the first 2 years of existence, and then it exploded to the level we know today.I know I had 3 accounts from day 1, sold my last one last week.

That said EVE had just about no content in terms of quests/missions or npc's, NPC were basically the same ships player flew cept for stats and few cosmetics.

The game was riddled with bugs and bad support during the first year, you could make your opponent (network)lag so much,that you could destroy his ship, pod the guy and then loot his ship, before he could even finish loading the zone.

Since then they added cloaking zoning, fixed cops, added tons of ships, modified the weapon system, basically after two years they got it right with the help of thousands of paying beta players...

I guess people tend to forget big players like Blizzard and WoW, does anyone remember how it was back then?The first year of WoW?Empty zones, not even one friggin NPC, PvP instances, siege, hero class didn't even existed, although it was promised.

Give an mmo at least a year or two before dragging it into the mud.

TR has a strong combat system, tons of missions, few bugs, now they need to fix the game so people like it.Add more fun stuff to do, high end grinding, better PvP, I dunno maybe unlock a new zone or raise lvl cap.

EVE is a sandbox MMO, and there are few if any of those left, which is I'd say accounts for that game's popularity. Even with a lack of "content" they basically give you the keys and let you make your own.

Tabula Rasa is not a sandbox, it's a level-grinding amusement park like 99% of the MMOs out right now.

And choosing between TR and another game like WoW, LOTRO or EQ2 - what have you, is like choosing between Kings Island, Six Flags or Disney World and that greasy carnie attraction set up in the mall parking lot.

Sorry, but it's true. Even though I personally would like it to be otherwise.

EDIT: I hate ad hominems and I may have committed one, so I took it out to be safe.

Just picked it up from Wal-Mart today for $10.  Hah, a steal imo.

When I stop and think about what TR could have been it's really sad. One, if they had stuck with the first incarnation of the game before they scrapped the entire thing. Two, what would TR in it's current form have been if all that development time wasted could have been used for the TR we have now...

All that is pointless though, we have what we have. Hopefully TR can survive long enough to become the game it should have been.

Not much has changed yet, although it is more polished and runs much better, it still lacks a lot of content, especially at the end game. Hopefully once the PvP stuff gets ironed out they will concentrate on making more PvE content, and making the PvE content more involved and engaging. 

I played about 10 days or so of beta, and loved the game.  Something told me to wait on release, and good thing I did.   Since then I've been waiting for content to come back.

I guess the marketing managers decided that it's cost effective to not add content, but to sit back and let the cash flow come in and not pay the overhead.  Don't forget this game is still selling at  $49.95 in most stores, and a small % of people use forums to find out how game play really is. 

Originally posted by page

Don't forget this game is still selling at  $49.95 in most stores, and a small % of people use forums to find out how game play really is. 

 

I don't know where you live, but in the US that's just not true. The digital DL on the NCsoft site is only $20 right now. And most games stores have it in the bargin bin for less then $25. Additionally, you can get countless copies on Ebay and Amazon for under $20 (some w/ shipping included). And that includes a free month. Not a bad deal to find out if you like it or not.

My local EB is selling them for $9, Future Shop & Londong Drugs $19, haven't seen any for any higher than $19 so far other than the collector's edition for $29. I don't think they sell too well either since there were a pile of them on the shelves.

Originally posted by page

I played about 10 days or so of beta, and loved the game.  Something told me to wait on release, and good thing I did.   Since then I've been waiting for content to come back.

I guess the marketing managers decided that it's cost effective to not add content, but to sit back and let the cash flow come in and not pay the overhead.  Don't forget this game is still selling at  $49.95 in most stores, and a small % of people use forums to find out how game play really is. 

 

This game has not been for sale at $49.95 in this area(NY,NJ) since March. It hit the 19.99 and under shelf around then and has since resided there. Though it did hit the BestBuy managers special shelf which took another 40% off in May for a couple of weeks.