Since the cross server looking for a group system even though WoW has an extensive world it may just as well be an instanced game because these day very few people quest when leveling nor do you see much world pvp . Where as in ToR theres plenty of people doing both .

WoWs just an instanced raid grind for the majority of players now anyway .

Graphically dunno what the OP is on about ToR on full settings is far superior to WoW graphically . But I guess thats a matter of taste .

Anyway OP enjoy your return to WoW bet you don't stay more than a month or two though once you see how easy its become . \

You'll soon be bored and return to ToR along with the rest of the planet .

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Since the cross server looking for a group system even though WoW has an extensive world it may just as well be an instanced game because these day very few people quest when leveling nor do you see much world pvp . Where as in ToR theres plenty of people doing both .

WoWs just an instanced raid grind for the majority of players now anyway .

Graphically dunno what the OP is on about ToR on full settings is far superior to WoW graphically . But I guess thats a matter of taste .

Anyway OP enjoy your return to WoW bet you don't stay more than a month or two though once you see how easy its become . \

You'll soon be bored and return to ToR along with the rest of the planet .

Here is a small thing though.  Not everyone likes TOR, hell a lot who bought it do not like it.  Yes there are many who like TOR as well but to assume everyone will flow back is silly.  How many went back to WAR, Aion, AoC and many other games that came out?  Yeah not so many.  Is WOW an easy mode joke yes but then so is TOR.  There is nothing remotely difficult about it other than staying awake through the 500th cut scene and the millionth droid you shot with your blaster or slashed with your lightsaber.  There are very few MMOs which provide an ounce of challenge in this day and age.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Since the cross server looking for a group system even though WoW has an extensive world it may just as well be an instanced game because these day very few people quest when leveling nor do you see much world pvp . Where as in ToR theres plenty of people doing both .

WoWs just an instanced raid grind for the majority of players now anyway .

Graphically dunno what the OP is on about ToR on full settings is far superior to WoW graphically . But I guess thats a matter of taste .

Anyway OP enjoy your return to WoW bet you don't stay more than a month or two though once you see how easy its become . \

You'll soon be bored and return to ToR along with the rest of the planet .

Here is a small thing though.  Not everyone likes TOR, hell a lot who bought it do not like it.  Yes there are many who like TOR as well but to assume everyone will flow back is silly.  How many went back to WAR, Aion, AoC and many other games that came out?  Yeah not so many.  Is WOW an easy mode joke yes but then so is TOR.  There is nothing remotely difficult about it other than staying awake through the 500th cut scene and the millionth droid you shot with your blaster or slashed with your lightsaber.  There are very few MMOs which provide an ounce of challenge in this day and age.

I don't think ToRs quite as easy as WoW . You can't go up one level per raid or battleground win . You have to return to the quest givers they dont just pop out of nowhere like they do in stv nowdays . I would prefer mmos in general to have a bit more challenge to them . I think WoW had it right in its first two years and no game since then has got it right in terms of difficulty and design . ToR is the best in a long time and had WoW maintained it quality then ToR couldn't have held a candle to it . As it is ToR is now the better game and will remain so untill they decide to base an expansion around something cute and fury .

EWOKS ;)

Originally posted by Zeal77

Ahhh yes, how refreshing to grind some more badges and ride your mount in circles in Org.

Honest question: what do you do in SWTOR at maximum level? If you think it'll be any better than WoW you are SORELY mistaken.

I am shocked that someone was let down by SWTOR and went back to WOW.  Really, I am.

Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss

Originally posted by Zeal77

Ahhh yes, how refreshing to grind some more badges and ride your mount in circles in Org.

Honest question: what do you do in SWTOR at maximum level? If you think it'll be any better than WoW you are SORELY mistaken.

Why even get to max level in SWTOR?  Just get to level 30 and keep leveling alts so you can take in the awesome story.

Unfortunately, you will not be the only player that was beaten by the new shiney, and eventually even they too will see SWTOR for what it is and realize that SWTOR needs a ton of work to even get to the level that WoW or even Rift is right now.    In time though, SWTOR might be as good as WoW.   For now though, enjoy World of Warcraft...it truly is a great themepark game and delivers the goods.

Originally posted by Teala

Unfortunately, you will not be the only player that was beaten by the new shiney, and eventually even they too will see SWTOR for what it is and realize that SWTOR needs a ton of work to even get to the level that WoW or even Rift is right now.    In time though, SWTOR might be as good as WoW.   For now though, enjoy World of Warcraft...it truly is a great themepark game and delivers the goods.

LOL.  SWTOR just came out and it already has systems and mechanics that surpass anything out.  The mod system, for example, is way better than WOW's transmog, by far.

Originally posted by Zeal77

Ahhh yes, how refreshing to grind some more badges and ride your mount in circles in Org.

LOL...I couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by Zefire

Today i was so upset to relised that swtor is mainly instanced game that i couldnt play it anymore.It took me 28 lvls to realise it becuase the story and voice acting had charmed me but after i started getting bored of the repeating same voice acting i started seeing what this game has to offer instead of vo.

It has to offer nothing music sucks worlds are empty graphics worse than wow on ultra no open world not alive world no real time weather night sunset etc nothing nothingggg.I cant believe they released such a game.It fails in every aspect and more over i had head aches of all the bluryness and filters on graphics they have thrown on it to cover the ugliness.The graphics are not clear so u can play 10 hours straight.You play 4 hours and u are done your eyes get tired.while in wow 10 months ago i was playing 17 hours and i didnt had a single problem.

 

So i fired up wow again in all my sadness cause i wanted to play an mmo these couple of days and to my surprise... holy shit! i have to say that the graphics on 1920x1080 ultra DX11 8x anti-aliasing look 5 times better than swtor and the performance fps is 100 times better than swtor.

When cataclysm was released dx 11 was not implemented and there were fps issues etc but now that there is dx 11 support the game just looks stunning and performs smoother than ever at 120 fps constant on 120 hz monitor.

 

Anyway seems like there is god these christmas.I ll be playing wow till diablo 3 releases it looks awesome that i cant believe they have done so much improvement with the dx 11 thing.Awesome work.

have a nice christmas guys i found the game to play till diablo 3 

Thats a huge breath indeed.

Have fun with the swtor single player irc.I will play it as well when it will become free to play or better b2p.

Now lets all have a great 2012 year.

yeah I turned on wow too and HOLY SHIT IT WAS THE SAME AS I REMEMBER

I used go back to WoW and level a new character to 85 and then quit again. I am glad I don't have the urge to do that anymore.

If you like SWTOR, play SWTOR.

If you like WoW, play WoW.

But, you have to do either because you really WANT to.  If you feel like you HAVE to, you should probably seek addiction help.  I'm not currently playing SWTOR, but I plan to.  If I don't like it, I will quit.  But, I won't go back to WoW because I don't like SWTOR or any other game.  I left WoW before Cata for a whole list of reasons.  Those reasons have not changed, been remedied, or no longer matter.  I made a choice to quit WoW.  It doesn't have to be one game or the other.

look SWTOR graphics suck.. but they are 10 times better than wow LOL.. tho basically the same game just one is sci fi the other fantasy... both themepark junk..

Tho people love them..

Id like to thank the OP for making this thread. i was thinking about getting tor, but without a free trial i wasnt sure.
Been looking for an MMO thats actually improved, if its going to be a WoW clone, might as well be an improved one. this one seems pretty terrible if it has cartoon gfx still and no open world. not to mention i dont trust games that dont offer a free trial and are based off of any kind of movie.
i wont be playing wow though, way too easy for the lil kids now, also i dont agree with the direction the game is heading in both story and mechanics.
ill probably wait for GW2 or Tera as they both seem equally appealing to me. 
 
 

Originally posted by leomaxwell4

Id like to thank the OP for making this thread. i was thinking about getting tor, but without a free trial i wasnt sure.
Been looking for an MMO thats actually improved, if its going to be a WoW clone, might as well be an improved one. this one seems pretty terrible if it has cartoon gfx still and no open world. not to mention i dont trust games that dont offer a free trial and are based off of any kind of movie.
i wont be playing wow though, way too easy for the lil kids now, also i dont agree with the direction the game is heading in both story and mechanics.
ill probably wait for GW2 or Tera as they both seem equally appealing to me. 
 
 

SWTOR is not really a WOW clone.  It has similarities... but it also has a tone of ways in which it blows WOW out of the water.  It's closer to Mass Effect than WOW though.

Originally posted by Souldrainer

SWTOR is not really a WOW clone.  It has similarities... but it also has a tone of ways in which it blows WOW out of the water.  It's closer to Mass Effect than WOW though.

Lmao no, just no.

SWTOR is nothing like Mass Effect other than its dialogue wheel thing, which is more of a Bioware trademark than a Mass Effect thing. On the other hand, pretty much everything else is exactly like WoW.

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by leomaxwell4

Id like to thank the OP for making this thread. i was thinking about getting tor, but without a free trial i wasnt sure.
Been looking for an MMO thats actually improved, if its going to be a WoW clone, might as well be an improved one. this one seems pretty terrible if it has cartoon gfx still and no open world. not to mention i dont trust games that dont offer a free trial and are based off of any kind of movie.
i wont be playing wow though, way too easy for the lil kids now, also i dont agree with the direction the game is heading in both story and mechanics.
ill probably wait for GW2 or Tera as they both seem equally appealing to me. 
 
 

SWTOR is not really a WOW clone.  It has similarities... but it also has a tone of ways in which it blows WOW out of the water.  It's closer to Mass Effect than WOW though.

I agree with that. WoW is a great game, no argument, but I like the variety I get with SWTOR, the Flash Points, Heroics etc. I have grouped more in a few weeks with SWTOR than I ever had in WoW. Don;t get me wrong, I played Wow since Beta, arguably the best game made to date, but times change as we all do. Nothing wrong with variety, it's the spice of life.

Fair enough OP, but although I don't much like either game if I was forced to play one at gunpoint, my choice sure as hell wouldn't be Wow.

Meh.. It's hard to say now, < TOR fanboy. After getting max and raiding, I'm starting to get the itch to play the 'other' mmo.

Oh wait wow? no, I'm talking about RIFT. Sorry, wrong forum.

TOR's a great game, however I think many people will wait until the dust settles and the improvements take place.