So, I figured I'd post a I miss the old days were you had your raids that ment something...

people used to raid 2-4 hours a day, a few nights a week on progression... It wasnt like it is now.. you actually felt like you achieved something then...

Now-a-days people raid 2-4 hours a day, few nights a week GRINDING the same raid instances. (for badges or w.e it maybe)

I'm sure there is some type of super rehashed mechanics that u can progess through for a week? idk not sure.

 

I'm sorry, but the second I saw LFG tool I knew it (could) ruin the genre.. ( in pushing mmos like WoW to be more hub based.) Which it did.

Now they even have the Raid LFG... you literally can have no interaction with your server (community) and succeed....?

am I wrong?

 

 

I know there were drawbacks back then.. like restricted talent options for raiders but that couldof been easily fixed.

 

95% of WoW players in vanilla didn't even touch naxx40.. This came from blizz.

 

What happened to the endless goal?

Answer:   It turned into the endless grind.

 

Originally posted by maddhatter44

What happened to the endless goal?

Answer:   It turned into the endless grind.

It's only "grind" if you aren't having fun.

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by maddhatter44

What happened to the endless goal?

Answer:   It turned into the endless grind.

It's only "grind" if you aren't having fun.

yup

The reasons so few saw Naxx 40 in Vanilla: AQ was a huge cockblock. MC was a huge cockblock (timesink gearing) Vael was the Master of the Universe Cockblock. Timescales, getting competent players keyed, geared all played a MAJOR role in why so few hit Naxx40. 40+ MC clears and three pieces of priest tier1? Are you fucking kidding me?

Originally posted by Razeron
The reasons so few saw Naxx 40 in Vanilla: AQ was a huge cockblock. MC was a huge cockblock (timesink gearing) Vael was the Master of the Universe Cockblock. Timescales, getting competent players keyed, geared all played a MAJOR role in why so few hit Naxx40. 40+ MC clears and three pieces of priest tier1? Are you fucking kidding me?

No im not,  last time I played was when cata released,  8 days after released i was 12/12 on norm with some guild that I just joined for  mild raiding.  (after i got turned down for a hardcore guild..)

I mean i know there are heroic modes and what not.. but how much does that actually change?

how am I suppose to feel when i saw pretty much all the endgame content in such a short time...

Blizz dumbed down the whole game. They took an amazing world and turned it into a lobby game. Maybe the majority of the player's like it, I have no idea.

 

It is not the same game anymore, for better or worse

Give me vinilla WoW.  And I play the hard way, thank you very much !!!

Originally posted by maddhatter44

Originally posted by Razeron
The reasons so few saw Naxx 40 in Vanilla: AQ was a huge cockblock. MC was a huge cockblock (timesink gearing) Vael was the Master of the Universe Cockblock. Timescales, getting competent players keyed, geared all played a MAJOR role in why so few hit Naxx40. 40+ MC clears and three pieces of priest tier1? Are you fucking kidding me?

No im not,  last time I played was when cata released,  8 days after released i was 12/12 on norm with some guild that I just joined for  mild raiding.  (after i got turned down for a hardcore guild..)

I mean i know there are heroic modes and what not.. but how much does that actually change?

how am I suppose to feel when i saw pretty much all the endgame content in such a short time...

 

They really flip flopped on time invested->reward scaling from vanilla to current.

Originally posted by page

Give me vinilla WoW.  And I play the hard way, thank you very much !!!

+1.