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World of Warcraft Forum » General Discussion raquo; the beginning of the end?

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  FrodoFragins

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11/27/11 2:27:50 AM#21

I think Blizzard already lost a decent chunk of players that planned on moving on to SW:TOR.  They realized they were wasting money subscribing to a game they were quitting at the end of the year.

 

I don't hate WOW or Blizzard, but I hope they get down to 4-5 million subscribers total in the next year or two.  They really need to get back to the quality and creativity they use to have.  Losing tons of subscribers will do that.

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  skulljoe

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Joined: 6/30/11
Posts: 93

11/27/11 2:39:04 AM#22

Dont worry about WoW subs. They will be back when MoP goes live

  gaugemew

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Joined: 9/09/11
Posts: 108

11/27/11 2:40:05 AM#23
Originally posted by Ravenmane

SWTOR is the new hotness mostly because of who's developing it and their track record.

 I was unaware EA had a good track record with MMO's.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-24-report-ea-investors-doubt-star-wars-mmo

  Scalebane

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11/27/11 4:33:12 AM#24
Originally posted by gaugemew
Originally posted by Ravenmane

SWTOR is the new hotness mostly because of who's developing it and their track record.

 I was unaware EA had a good track record with MMO's.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-24-report-ea-investors-doubt-star-wars-mmo

thats funny to see that especially since tor fans were posting that stock downgrade for wow lil bit ago lol

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  8BitAvatar

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Joined: 10/17/11
Posts: 202

11/27/11 4:37:07 AM#25

Who cares?

UO is still going after 10+ years, and they're down to less than 200k subscribers.

As much as people want to see it, WoW isn't going away anytime soon.

I personally wish it would die a painful death tomorrow and disappear forever, but I'm realistic enough to realize that won't happen.

  GameOvr

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Joined: 10/24/11
Posts: 57

11/27/11 9:31:37 AM#26

Blizz already lost 14% of NA/EU subs. If only 33% stay, that's 75% of subs lost between release of Cataclysm and release of MoP.  That's 16,000 lost subs, or 2.8 million in annual revenue lost per DAY based on 7 months until release of MoP.

 

The only market that matters is NA/EU which account for 90% of the income.

 

The likes/dislikes for the MoP trailer on You Tube is 50/50 with about 43,000 responses out of 3.5 million views. Is it conceivable that the majority who didn't bother to 'vote' on you tube, dislike MoP?

 

Yes.

 

And Guild Wars 2 still isn't factored into the mix, which is ranked #1 on this sites gamelist.

 

I expect even more to leave WoW, the followers, who only came because WoW was popular, will jump ship too (like Vivendi) when they see the majority have left.

 

Every signpost points to the demise of World of Warcraft.

 

  Teh_Axi

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11/27/11 10:23:21 AM#27

TOR isn't a long term threat to WoW, honestly I found it disapointingly mediocre.

The game will likely do about as well as SWG did.

  Zecktorin

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Joined: 11/23/11
Posts: 153

11/30/11 5:24:47 AM#28
Originally posted by Teh_Axi

TOR isn't a long term threat to WoW, honestly I found it disapointingly mediocre.

The game will likely do about as well as SWG did.

I doub it mate. It wont probably kill WoW... WoW has been goingstrong and will still contiue to go strong. SWTOR will probably do alright and the majority of played enjoyed it. The thing you gotta realise is that it is bringing in tons of people who haven't played MMOs before just because it's Bioware or because it's star wars. WoW did this itself with it's own IP. Rift kinda slumped because the IP was unknown but they are stiting around 600thru 650k subs which isnt bad as long as they are making money.

 

Give it time im pretty sure SWTOR will become number 2 or number 3 and stay there. Sittign around 2 thru 4 million players. For some1 who has not played an MMO before that will be playing SWTOR this is their first time having these mechanics in play for them. so just because fo that fact they wont find anything wrong with it.

Me personally I will be playing SWTOR because i liek teh setting better and it is a good amount of fun. I enjoy these theme park mechanics and so do a lot of other people. As well a lot of other people prefer a star wars theme over a fantasy theme.

This game is probably not gonna flop just saying, but i hope WoW stays fun for you and hope all goes well with MoP.

  nyxium

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Posts: 1104

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11/30/11 5:39:34 AM#29

I give WoW an estimate of at least 3 to 4 more years before any chance of business model change and then f2p completely with free accounts but current expansions will still have to be purchased. If there is still interest in the game then Blizzard might continue pumping out a few more expansions, optimistically.

  Loke666

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Posts: 13341

11/30/11 5:47:35 AM#30
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I think Blizzard already lost a decent chunk of players that planned on moving on to SW:TOR.  They realized they were wasting money subscribing to a game they were quitting at the end of the year.

I don't hate WOW or Blizzard, but I hope they get down to 4-5 million subscribers total in the next year or two.  They really need to get back to the quality and creativity they use to have.  Losing tons of subscribers will do that.

I think so too but I also think that many of those if not all might move to Diablo 3 when it finally launches.

But I don't really think the quality of Wow is at fault here, it is just getting old. Only a few fanatics believe that Wow always will be the top MMO, the rest of us knows that time will kill any game beside Tetris.

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  Hoplites

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11/30/11 8:56:28 AM#31
Originally posted by Teh_Axi

TOR isn't a long term threat to WoW, honestly I found it disapointingly mediocre.

The game will likely do about as well as SWG did.

SWG had a lot of subs before the NGE and CU fiascos.  I think TOR may double its peak subs of SWG because of IP alone.

 

Edit: I do not think WoW has aged poorly, in fact it is very competitive in that regard. Quality, and frequency of updates has decreased, while the frequency rate of expansions appear to be up. We''ll see how quickly MoP launches. 

  SonofSeth

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11/30/11 3:26:54 PM#32

The strangest thing happened after trying TOR this past weekend. At the same time I realised how much I want something completely different from WoW, and got this strange wish to resub to experience WoW gameplay again, some PVP and new instances, even get that Bloodfang set I always wanted...

Ah Blizzard, you so good at what you do.

  noxiel

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Joined: 8/27/08
Posts: 48

12/01/11 12:48:34 PM#33

The beguining of the end of WoW began when the game became more easy. I began playing WoW 7 years ago and left a few months ago. Why? Because It's not the WoW I loved and played. Many of the self called Hard cores and avid defenders of the game don't know how wonderfull the game was. Many and most didn't played the game 7 years ago, because 7 years ago there weren't so many people playing it.

They don't know WoW origins and is a shame, they would understand how blizzard is messing the game up just to make a steady profit out of laizyness not out of a high end game experience. I know they would be avid defenders of a great game and not the game they play now. Many players just know what they read or what they think they know which is great for them but not what they should be entitle to because of all the time they spent playing the game. They should get the best memories, what we enjoyed so much about WoW adn will maybe never know. Imagine If they had the game that started they would know what we who complain say and maybe understand. They as many new or recent commers should get the great game experience we had at the beguinning not the sloppy comercial game we had now. 

One thing that should  be set straight the Lore of WoW is not original from blizzard it came from Warhammer Fantasy games(not PC). From there it was developed and it was made into a great game. WoW started as a PvP oriented game not a PvE. There was no ressilence (which I think is the worst thing that happened to the game because it divided the game into 2 groups cheese players and the cheesiest pllayers. Horde vs Alliance didn't needed diferent armor nedded more story driven conflict. Now WoW is mostly PvE and Raid oriented game which is great but just imagine that plus good PvP and the great classic way of playing it. This is the buiguining of the end for WoW and hope good games come out.

 

  Praetalus

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Joined: 7/14/08
Posts: 668

12/01/11 12:56:23 PM#34

This again... To answer the OP question... No, it's not. The only game I know of right now with an "end" in sight is SWG. It will be the beginning of the end when Blizzard announces that they are shutting down the servers. 

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