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World of Warcraft Forum » General Discussion raquo; Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

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  GameOvr

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Joined: 10/24/11
Posts: 57

 
11/12/11 5:26:29 AM#1

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:

Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.

I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.

We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

  spinner_vis

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Joined: 6/21/06
Posts: 322

11/12/11 5:30:42 AM#2

chinese expansion? i thought everyone gets to play it? and isn't wow in china actually behind rest of the world in content, because it has to be approved by the committee?

  Supersoups

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1062

11/12/11 5:32:25 AM#3
Originally posted by GameOvr

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:

Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.

I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.

We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

 WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

  OkhamsRazor

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Joined: 7/08/10
Posts: 1066

11/12/11 5:43:29 AM#4
Originally posted by Supersoups
Originally posted by GameOvr

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:

Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.

I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.

We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

 WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

  gobla

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Joined: 3/30/07
Posts: 1293

C'est la vie.

11/12/11 5:53:33 AM#5
Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

Because that 90% mentioned in the OP was totally a real statistic!

It wasn't made up on the spot at all! I mean who would do such a thing? It's like a total fact that 99% of all statistics you see on these forums are totally real and legit.

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  prayerless

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Joined: 11/11/11
Posts: 5

11/12/11 6:02:24 AM#6

blizzard expects a better reception of a cash shop in the east as it loses subs in the west

  User Deleted
11/12/11 6:03:24 AM#7

WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

  Ezhae

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Joined: 9/03/06
Posts: 349

11/12/11 6:07:15 AM#8
Originally posted by OkhamsRazor
Originally posted by Supersoups
Originally posted by GameOvr

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:

Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.

I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.

We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

 WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

Yeah.. 10%. Let's see. Cosndiering the price point in OP is right and it's infact 6 cents / hour it would take 8 hours a day of playtime to reach subscription price as in US. Plenty of people there play for way more than 8 hours a day on average. Another thing is, the fact that Chineese servers are not operated by Blizzard but a Chineese company so Blizzard doesn't pay for those servers. Next thing is the fact that there is way more people there playing the game than in NA/EU regions. 

It would much more closer to accurate to say NA makes about 25-30% EU makes about 15-20% and rest is Asian market. 

  Supersoups

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1062

11/12/11 6:14:09 AM#9
Originally posted by OkhamsRazor
Originally posted by Supersoups
Originally posted by GameOvr

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:

Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.

I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.

We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

 WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

Aion and tera were made for Asian market and yet they went under extensive changes to appeal to Western market. Asia is a huge market for online gaming bigger than US and EU combined. I don't see why you find that Blizzard owes any kind of explanation to you or anyone else. They are running a business and they will sell their product where ever they see market for it.

So i ask again it is ok for Asian titles to try and appeal to western market but when Blizzard does it, you are against it. Why double standards?

  deniter

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/06/08
Posts: 268

11/12/11 6:26:50 AM#10
Originally posted by Ezhae
Originally posted by OkhamsRazor
Originally posted by Supersoups
Originally posted by GameOvr

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:

Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.

I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.

We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

 WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

Yeah.. 10%. Let's see. Cosndiering the price point in OP is right and it's infact 6 cents / hour it would take 8 hours a day of playtime to reach subscription price as in US. Plenty of people there play for way more than 8 hours a day on average. Another thing is, the fact that Chineese servers are not operated by Blizzard but a Chineese company so Blizzard doesn't pay for those servers. Next thing is the fact that there is way more people there playing the game than in NA/EU regions. 

It would much more closer to accurate to say NA makes about 25-30% EU makes about 15-20% and rest is Asian market. 

http://seekingalpha.com/article/193148-blizzard-s-world-of-warcraft-the-china-growth-story

According to this article 90% / 10% seems pretty accurate.

  nyxium

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Joined: 3/15/09
Posts: 1104

Tumbling down the rabbit hole?

11/12/11 6:48:09 AM#11

Possibly the Chinese WoTLK expansion might be blotted out of the Chinese WoW due to the problems it caused, which means they get BC, Cata and Panda.

How they would level up from 70 to 80 is anyones guess. But it would seem Panda is Blizzard's solution to their 'Chinese authorities problem.'

  Joshua69

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Joined: 9/12/06
Posts: 949

It''s not the fall that kill''s you. its the sudden stop at the end....

11/12/11 7:01:19 AM#12

im still excited for pandas

 

  GameOvr

Novice Member

Joined: 10/24/11
Posts: 57

 
11/12/11 7:49:52 AM#13

I don't pay five times as much to play WoW as a chinese player does just so Maike Mo Han can make "the game more popular in the Chinese market"

 

I have seen blizzard try to cram e-sport pvp down players throats, pander to elite gamers to the point where people with disabilities in my guild can't raid anymore because the price for not having lightning reflexes is a wipe.

Sinestra was tuned specifically for Paragon guild, they have a vid to prove it, only 1.8% of players downed Sinestra, you other 98.2% paid for it and got nothing for your money.

I have played for six and a half years, been a GM, and a old school PvP Field Marshal but NO MORE. They are not going to cram this crap down my throat.

  Ezhae

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Joined: 9/03/06
Posts: 349

11/12/11 8:00:59 AM#14
Originally posted by deniter

http://seekingalpha.com/article/193148-blizzard-s-world-of-warcraft-the-china-growth-story

According to this article 90% / 10% seems pretty accurate.

Because random article on the net is very accurate estimate? I mean the guy there assumes the playtime in China is 10-20 hours / month which is pretty laughable estimate. 

 

 

Originally posted by GameOvr

Sinestra was tuned specifically for Paragon guild, they have a vid to prove it, only 1.8% of players downed Sinestra, you other 98.2% paid for it and got nothing for your money.

That's because only 1.8% of players can be even bothered to attempt heroic raids. Guilds just don't care about those since they are pretty much same as normal mode and get repetetive very fast. 
  GameOvr

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Joined: 10/24/11
Posts: 57

 
11/12/11 8:08:45 AM#15
Originally posted by Ezhae
Originally posted by deniter

http://seekingalpha.com/article/193148-blizzard-s-world-of-warcraft-the-china-growth-story

According to this article 90% / 10% seems pretty accurate.

Because random article on the net is very accurate estimate? I mean the guy there assumes the playtime in China is 10-20 hours / month which is pretty laughable estimate. 

 

 Chinese players pay 6 cents an hour. They all would have to play 8.3 hours a day, every day to spend as much  as we have to pay.

 

  fivoroth

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Joined: 11/10/06
Posts: 1430

11/12/11 8:25:46 AM#16

WoW is the first MMO to ever implement an Asian theme. It's the first MMO ever to introduce an Asian themed expansion. No one has ever done this before. Right? Let's see

Aion - asian theme right from the start

Terra - asian theme right from the start

Guild Wars - an Asian theme expansion?!!! OMG, they are trying to appeal to the Chinese market. OMFGZORZ.

Everquest - Introduced pandas in the game!!!!!!! OMFG!!!! Call the panda hate squad now!

Age of Conan - Asian themed expansion!! Amagad!!

I can't be bothered to come up with other examples but I am pretty sure there's a lot more MMOs with Asian themes in them.

 

  pharazonic

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Joined: 8/22/11
Posts: 875

11/13/11 8:25:07 PM#17
Originally posted by MMOSareDEAD

WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

Pretty much. 

The outrage against MoP and similarly,  the derision Asian MMOs face in the MMO community, is nothing else but good ol' fashion prejudice and xenophobia rearing its ugly head in our supposed multicultural society. 

 

Disgusting. 

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

I need to take this advice more.

  User Deleted
11/13/11 8:28:55 PM#18

This has most probably been said a million times but in a game that has playable cows, I don't see why having playable vegetarian bears would raise such a ruckus.

Also it's completely normal for Blizz to target the chinese at this point. Half their customers are there and SWTOR is around the corner, threatening to steal their remaining western customers (SW isn't big in China).

  Grand_Nagus

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Joined: 10/13/08
Posts: 253

11/13/11 8:33:19 PM#19
Originally posted by GameOvr

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

Or, just post the link to the article and people who already have google chrome will get to auto-translate it in their browser.

  GameOvr

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Joined: 10/24/11
Posts: 57

 
11/13/11 9:55:25 PM#20
Originally posted by pharazonic
Originally posted by MMOSareDEAD

WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

Pretty much. 

The outrage against MoP and similarly,  the derision Asian MMOs face in the MMO community, is nothing else but good ol' fashion prejudice and xenophobia rearing its ugly head in our supposed multicultural society. 

 

Disgusting. 

Well let's see what's wrong with your argument.

 

Wrath didn't add an Elk race and a land called Elklandia and didn't only have scandinavian architecture.

So it's "pretty much" NOT the same thing.

 

What disgusting in our "supposed multicultural society" is making the entire playerbase of WoW including North America and European markets who generate 90% of the revenue pay for a monolithic expansion aimed at ONE market.

 

A market that is so "culturally sensitive" that they have banned games for recognizing Taiwan and Tibet as seperate countries. A Market in a country that executes more citizens than the rest of the world combined and has mobile death vans to do it.

 

Yep that's swell.

 

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