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User Deleted	10/12/06 10:12:14 PM#41 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by BlazinBlades SOE has nothing at all to do with the development of this game, and very little to do with the day to day operations and management of the game, In theory no, but it's like that little cop that handcuffs himself to some schwarzenegger-like thief. He might be the cop, but he better do what the thief says
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baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/12/06 10:19:27 PM#42 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by altairzq In theory no, but it's like that little cop that handcuffs himself to some schwarzenegger-like thief. He might be the cop, but he better do what the thief says in theory? no actually it is a fact...the "theory" is the conspiracy that all you soe haters think soe will one day "take over".
chlaos Novice Member Joined: 11/11/05 Posts: 1120	10/12/06 10:30:59 PM#43 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by baphamet Originally posted by altairzq In theory no, but it's like that little cop that handcuffs himself to some schwarzenegger-like thief. He might be the cop, but he better do what the thief says in theory? no actually it is a fact...the "theory" is the conspiracy that all you soe haters think soe will one day "take over". For your sake, I hope your still saying that a year after the game goes live. Seriously, looking at past history how can you be so sure? "The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
godpuppet Novice Member Joined: 12/06/05 Posts: 1363	10/12/06 10:33:49 PM#44 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by baphamet Originally posted by altairzq In theory no, but it's like that little cop that handcuffs himself to some schwarzenegger-like thief. He might be the cop, but he better do what the thief says in theory? no actually it is a fact...the "theory" is the conspiracy that all you soe haters think soe will one day "take over". SoE is like the badguy in batman, every episode he has an evil plot, he gets his ass kicked by batman, he loses and ends up even lower then he was before. But along comes a new episode and hes back with a new dasderdly deed. SoE will never go away, not with sonys backing. ---
baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/12/06 10:35:36 PM#45 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by godpuppet "minority" that there is, we feel its our responsibility to inform the majority how maligned SoE really is. Btw I only played SWG for about a month, it was a fun game to start with, but the bugs and unbalanced classes drove me away. If SoE had worked on fixing the existing content the game would have peaked my interest. What they did with NGE has turned something with potential, into a steaming pile of shit. if you only played SWG for a month, what is it about soe you feel is so "maligned"? what is it you feel you must "inform the majority" about? thats fine you didn't like NGE but how does that bother you in any way if you didn't like the game in the first place? i mean i can understand if someone was so emotionally attached to SWG pre NGE that they would be so outraged that they would go out of their way to bash soe and anything involved with them, i think its stupid and childish personally but i guess i understand it. you on the other hand seem like you are just trying to be one of the cool kids and hate on soe because all of these ex SWG players. i have played lots of soe games (SWG not being one of them) and yes they have had their fair share of issues in those games but certainly nothing that warrants me to hate them and refuse to ever give them my money ever again, but that is just me i guess. BTW this isn't meant as a flame, there are a few people like yourself that "jump on the bandwagon" so to speak, to hate soe when IMO they don't have anything to really be mad about. not sure what your true reasoning is, but alot of people just have to have something to complain about.....its pretty stupid but to each their own i guess.
baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/12/06 10:41:03 PM#46 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) *Originally posted by chlaos* For your sake, I hope your still saying that a year after the game goes live. Seriously, looking at past history how can you be so sure? how can i be sure of what? i think you are reading into what i am saying. I'm not saying that some day soe wont have some say into the development of vanguard, or even own sigil. that is all speculation.... the fact is (and its defiantly not a theory) at this point in time that is not the case, if you want to worry about what might happen a year or two after release and let that prevent you from playing vanguard go right ahead.
baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/12/06 10:43:15 PM#47 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by godpuppet SoE is like the badguy in batman, every episode he has an evil plot, he gets his ass kicked by batman, he loses and ends up even lower then he was before. But along comes a new episode and hes back with a new dasderdly deed. SoE will never go away, not with sonys backing. not sure what that has to do with my post, but by all means please reply to my other because i am still trying to figure you out.
godpuppet Novice Member Joined: 12/06/05 Posts: 1363	10/12/06 10:48:08 PM#48 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) if you only played SWG for a month, what is it about soe you feel is so "maligned"? what is it you feel you must "inform the majority" about? I dont like SoE, I never have liked SoE. When I played EQ I had mixed feelings. Watching SoE's actions over the last few years has lead me to the negative opinion I have of them now. Their games, imo, are pretty awful by most standards, as is their service and their conduct is unproffessional. thats fine you didn't like NGE but how does that bother you in any way if you didn't like the game in the first place? SWG isnt the only reason I dislike SoE. Theres no deeprooted trama involving the loss of a character. Just the disguist over SoE's conduct when NGE was released. Somebody mentioned that the only people who dislike SoE are ex-SWGers, Im pointing out that there are others. BTW this isn't meant as a flame, there are a few people like yourself that "jump on the bandwagon" so to speak, to hate soe when IMO they don't have anything to really be mad about. Bash away matey, I love debate... Even when it becomes personal Maybe SoE hate has become a trend... You know what they say, you make your bed, you lay in it. ---
godpuppet Novice Member Joined: 12/06/05 Posts: 1363	10/12/06 10:51:39 PM#49 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by baphamet Originally posted by godpuppet SoE is like the badguy in batman, every episode he has an evil plot, he gets his ass kicked by batman, he loses and ends up even lower then he was before. But along comes a new episode and hes back with a new dasderdly deed. SoE will never go away, not with sonys backing. not sure what that has to do with my post, but by all means please reply to my other because i am still trying to figure you out. the "theory" is the conspiracy that all you soe haters think soe will one day "take over". Is what you said? ---
baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/12/06 11:10:10 PM#50 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by godpuppet if you only played SWG for a month, what is it about soe you feel is so "maligned"? what is it you feel you must "inform the majority" about? I dont like SoE, I never have liked SoE. When I played EQ I had mixed feelings. Watching SoE's actions over the last few years has lead me to the negative opinion I have of them now. Their games, imo, are pretty awful by most standards, as is their service and their conduct is unproffessional. thats fine you didn't like NGE but how does that bother you in any way if you didn't like the game in the first place?SWG isnt the only reason I dislike SoE. Theres no deeprooted trama involving the loss of a character. Just the disguist over SoE's conduct when NGE was released. Somebody mentioned that the only people who dislike SoE are ex-SWGers, Im pointing out that there are others. BTW this isn't meant as a flame, there are a few people like yourself that "jump on the bandwagon" so to speak, to hate soe when IMO they don't have anything to really be mad about.Bash away matey, I love debate... Even when it becomes personal Maybe SoE hate has become a trend... You know what they say, you make your bed, you lay in it. fair enough, we will have to just disagree on this because i honestly don't think your reasoning warrants so much hate for soe. i played eq1 as well for a long time and i don't really see how you could be pissed about anything, disappointed maybe but pissed off enough to spark hatred? also i defiantly am not trying to make anything personal here, and am not trying to bash you. just trying to understand where you are coming from is all. Maybe SoE hate has become a trend... You know what they say, you make your bed, you lay in it. i can agree with that, it defiantly has become a trend.
baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/12/06 11:16:08 PM#51 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by godpuppet " the "theory" is the conspiracy that all you soe haters think soe will one day "take over". Is what you said? yes i see now, but the point i was trying to make wasn't if soe would some day "take over". if you want to speculate about that great. the point is right now they defiantly don't have any control or hand in the development witch has been confirmed by both soe and sigil, and that is a fact.
godpuppet Novice Member Joined: 12/06/05 Posts: 1363	10/12/06 11:19:11 PM#52 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) fair enough, we will have to just disagree on this because i honestly don't think your reasoning warrants so much hate for soe. K ---
godpuppet Novice Member Joined: 12/06/05 Posts: 1363	10/12/06 11:22:39 PM#53 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by baphamet Originally posted by godpuppet " the "theory" is the conspiracy that all you soe haters think soe will one day "take over". Is what you said? yes i see now, but the point i was trying to make wasn't if soe would some day "take over". if you want to speculate about that great. the point is right now they defiantly don't have any control or hand in the development witch has been confirmed by both soe and sigil, and that is a fact. Debatable Fact. ---
User Deleted	10/13/06 5:08:14 AM#54 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I really hate SOE and they deserve every bit of it. I also assume one day SOE will own Vanguard and Brad will start a new product and in the not so near future!
JMoney95 Apprentice Member Joined: 2/13/06 Posts: 214	10/13/06 5:37:06 AM#55 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Breaking news! The vast majority of video game players dont give a shit who published, produced, distributed or hosted the games they play. Most people play and purchase games due to fun factor, not companies involved. Only a small minority of players visit let alone post on sites such as these. Now back to your retardfest.
baphamet Hard Core Member Joined: 7/05/06 Posts: 951 110100100	10/13/06 6:08:58 AM#56 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by JMoney95 Breaking news! The vast majority of video game players dont give a shit who published, produced, distributed or hosted the games they play. Most people play and purchase games due to fun factor, not companies involved. Only a small minority of players visit let alone post on sites such as these. Now back to your retardfest. haha could not have said it any better myself.
godpuppet Novice Member Joined: 12/06/05 Posts: 1363	10/13/06 6:14:16 AM#57 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The vast majority of video game players dont give a shit who published, produced, distributed or hosted the games they play. if thats true, thats pretty sad. ---
Thecowlord Apprentice Member Joined: 3/01/04 Posts: 3	10/13/06 6:45:05 AM#58 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Just another player who got rolled on from SWG. Had a Creature Handler and was for a while one of the top 20 you could say. Sure SWG had it's flaws sure SOE had it's own flaws but hey who doesn't? Then NGE came out and out went my hard earned time. Yea I was choked, but after time I got over it. I have had my moments with SOE from SWG and EQ and even EQ2, but they are just moments. I've been in and out of MANY mmo's since UO and there's always something someone wont like, always a choice a gaming company will do that'll piss off a few or a HUGE amount of folks. I am fairly sure that is always going to be the case. It's unavoidable. I do not in any way say that that's life get over it and so forth. We each live life as unique as we see it. Some group will have a common reaction and another group a different reaction. Part of the joy of being human. I am a strong believer that we all are allowed a few f*** up's through life. That aplies to companies as well like SOE. It's not up to them to live and learn and please the majority, it's up to us to forgive and forget or don't forgive and never forget. Me I am for the first. I was anoyed (nice way of putting it) at SOE over the last few years of EQ and what NGE did to SWG but that went by and I begin anew. SOE will no doubt get some profit from Vangaurd SOH, but thats just the way the ball bounces. I am one for sure who will be trying Vangaurd SOH out and if SOE gets some of my money so be it.