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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Forum » General Discussion raquo; SOE developer and publisher of Vanguard?
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10/05/06 10:36:57 PM#21
why this thread has not been already locked is beyond me, it is a know fact that soe isn't developing vanguard. anything you need to know about it can be found here |
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10/05/06 11:28:23 PM#22
the simple fact that everything SOE touches turns to *censored* should be cause for alarm..........atleast to the people who have a clue.
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10/06/06 1:47:01 AM#23
Maybe so but seeing as how SOE have next to no input in Vanguard then we don't have a problem do we? How about a few FAQ quotes so we can get this all down and figured out folks? "Will SOE influence the gameplay?
SoE cannot touch the gameplay. What we have done is become the publishers of our own game. We now have even more control and authority over Vanguard, how it is made, how it is designed, and how it is marketed than we ever had with Microsoft. I realize there are lots of different feelings about SOE and their games. But whatever those feelings, the fact of the matter is that they know operations and distribution. They will make sure our beta runs the way it needs to, that our game is widely marketed, and that our game is available all over, in all channels. That is SOE's role in this new partnership with them. Sigil remains Sigil, able to focus now moreso on what we do best -- design, implement, conduct betas, build community, and market. Source: Brad McQuaid May 6, 2006
Vanguard will not leave the dream and visions of Sigil and its current developers. I give you my word. And this move insures that the above remains true by giving us total authority over the design of the game, community, customer service, etc. Source: Brad McQuaid May 6, 2006
To put your mind at ease.. this is Sigil's game and it's staying that way. Brad and the Sigil team have done a phenomenal job.. they don't need any gameplay advice. Source: John Smedley May 6, 2006" "Are SOE and Sigil merging?
SOE is not buying Sigil. Sigil remains Sigil. I left SOE years ago because I wasn't in a position to be hands on making games anymore. That's why Sigil was founded. Selling out would put me back in the same place I was before: not making games. Making MMOGs makes me happy. I love Vanguard and intend to see the game through, long past launch. We have so much planned for the game after launch -- I've hinted at much of it. Why would I do anything to jeoprodize what I have now? This new deal now even gives us (which includes me) even MORE authority and autonomy. This makes me even happier. Seriously, think about what you are saying -- it doesn't make sense and it doesn't fit my track record and personality. Source: Brad McQuaid May 6, 2006" "What is Sigil responsible for? What is SOE responsible for?
SOE owns distribution, marketing, data center operations, and *technical* support (ie - when you have trouble installing the client, or a scratched disk from the retail box). Sigil owns everything related to development, in-game customer service, live teams, and on-going content development. And the relationship is setup, both organizationally and financially, to reinforce those roles. Source: Jon Grande May 6, 2006
We actually did account for this ... what people need to realize is that the over structure of the new publishing arrangement will enable us (Sigil) to make Vanguard a fundamentally better game. We are now in complete control of the budget, the schedule, etc. We would ask people to, at least, take a wait and see approach ... if we end up breaching your trust with the quality of the game or its on-going operation - then you have every right to tell us to "talk to the hand". Source: Jon Grande May 6, 2006" Is that clear enough now? The page I got it all from. Don't reply to say that it is all unbelievable and that Sigil and SOE are lying...we've heard it all before and the general conclusion is that the specific poster, who does so, is talking junk. All hail the Pixel, for it is glorious Orange!
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10/06/06 1:54:26 AM#24
Sigil Games Online (SGO) = Developer Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) = Publisher |
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10/06/06 3:59:19 AM#25
you are wasting your time my friend, the soe-haters don't care about all that stuff.... they only care that soe is involved in some way, shape, or form. they were so emotionally attached over SWG or some other soe game they played (i am not singling anyone out, just speaking in general here) that now they have made it their personal mission....a crusade if you will to do whatever they can to hurt soe witch hurt them. when people post things like "soe is involved so ofcorce it will flop" or something along those lines it really means "i am butthurt over SWG and i am here to troll and spread misinformation because soe hurt me everyone knows (at least people that follow the game) that vanguard is being developed by sigil and sigil only, and the information is easy to find. the people that still believe that soe has anything to do with the development are either misinformed or are blind by their hatred for soe and are just here to purposely spread misinformation. so if i were you i would try to ignore those type of posts witch i know is hard to do, there are alot of these types of posters that are not interested in vanguard in the least...they are only interested in bashing soe. |
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10/06/06 5:13:06 AM#26
Okay... ... ...what's a nolifer? All hail the Pixel, for it is glorious Orange!
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10/06/06 5:16:04 AM#27
No-lifer. He means we're the opposite of convicted murderers, who are lifers. He respects the law-abiding citizens of the United States.  |
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10/06/06 6:18:31 AM#28
Can we keep her???? |
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10/06/06 8:19:03 AM#29
I might say that i will not buy a game SOE is publishing, and that is my business... but I won't say it is going to suck or will be flop because of it. Just because you are proponent of the game, doesn't mean you cant be a troll. lumping everyone who disagrees with you together and flaming them at every opportunity really discredits any legitimate points you might make... exactly the same way you feel about the people who don't like SOE. If you don't agree with them, and don't put any value in their opinions, why don't you take your own advice and ignore them... instead of acting exactly the way you are accusing them of... by closing your mind and opening your mouth. |
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10/06/06 4:40:17 PM#30
I notified Gamestop about the problem, and now it has been fixed.
Current MMO of interest: Vanguard: Saga of Heroes |
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10/06/06 4:44:52 PM#31
grats on putting words in my mouth, i never once have tried to silence anyone with an opinion and if you Read my post i am only speaking about people that post shallow trollish posts like "vanguard will flop because soe is involved". i actually welcome a discussion about vanguard weather you like soe or hate it....certainly not all people that hate soe are like that, in fact most are not.
total ignorance on your behalf when referring to me, that is not what i am about, go read some of my posts and then come talk to me. |
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10/06/06 5:56:06 PM#32
Maybe you should look at what you wrote before accusing me of putting words in to your mouth... And i have read your posts, although I don't generally feel they are worthy of response. Just because you don't agree with my opinion doesn't mean I am ignorant. It is my opinion that you are a rabid fanboy... the fact that you don't agree with me doesn't make my opinion any less valid.... maybe YOU need to go back and read your posts, looking for the attitude I mentioned. The post you quoted back back to has ample evidence. |
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10/06/06 9:40:51 PM#33
again....i was referring to the post he quoted...you took what i said out of context and assumed i feel that way about all people that hate soe. do i really need to start talking to you as if you are 12? i will quote exactly what i said "total ignorance on your behalf when referring to me" even a 12 year old when reading that would come to the conclusion that i am basically telling you that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to me. but yet you twist it all around, take it out of context and pretend i am calling you ignorant because i disagree with you? obviously i hit a nerve with you, and now you are just trying to pick a fight with me. again the point i was making was not to focus twords all people that hate soe. just people that come to the forums, spread misinformation, and post trollish one liners like "soe is involved so ofcource vanguard will flop". if you read it another way that sure is a bummer but that is enviously not what i meant. call me a "rabid fanboi" or whatever insult you want. the fact is, if you present yourself with a post regardless if it is positive or negative and it is done in a way that actually contributes to the topic i will welcome that discussion. |
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10/06/06 9:45:19 PM#34
If SOE is linked to this game. I'm staying FAR away from it. Dont want another NGE dropped on me!
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10/06/06 9:49:05 PM#35
Who cares? |
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10/06/06 11:25:22 PM#36
Then what are you doing here?
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10/06/06 11:31:20 PM#37
Voicing his opinion. |
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10/07/06 2:50:43 AM#38
Well it's the wrong opinion and it isn't helped by people like you spreading false information about Vanguard. Teranhawkins read my post on page 3 (the long one) and you will learn the truth. Don't listen to people, like Salvatoris who speak out of their arses (sorry mods but he does). All hail the Pixel, for it is glorious Orange!
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10/07/06 3:02:03 AM#39
Woah. SOE is the publisher of Vanguard. Fact. SOE and Vanguard are linked because of that. Fact. Teran shared his opinion and though it's old and could be considered pointless to share at this point, for you to say it's the wrong opinion because you disagree is ludicrous. Salvatoris speaking out of his ass? He said exactly what Teran was doing, and that's sharing his opinion. |
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10/07/06 3:16:55 AM#40
I think it's obvious why I'm locking this. Please everyone, play nice. No, you don't have to like the game, but I will remind you that personal attacks are against our RoC, and that still applies if you feel you were being trolled. If you think someone is trolling, report it. It does not gie free reign to disregard our rules.
Stradden Cheers, |
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I like how she goes after everyone specifically lol.....
