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Originally posted by BlackWhysper
Thank god for someone who understands :)

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opps =P

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Originally posted by n4t3py13

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Originally posted by BlackWhysper
Thank god for someone who understands :)

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The funny thing is, I knew about the unfinalized graphic engine and missing lightmaps before I even touched Beta :D.  People need to do their own homework on the progress of the game before making overgeneralized final judgments based off of interweb hype/anti-hype threads.

Someone said the game felt like Cold 3d realistic graphics.  That's 100% true when you look at screenshots and videos captured in areas that have basically no lighting effects going on.  The feeling of warmth is achieved directly through correctly done lighting.  I can't find anything to back up my statements because all of the videos that had good indoor footage with completed lighting, have seemed to disappear.  Just wait and see, and hold off on passing your final judgment until their work on the graphic engine is completed (that goes for animations as well).

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Well some people just seem to look at a few pictures and some videos to do their judging. But i guess that is kinda what our culture is all about =P anyways, great comment =)

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Originally posted by BlackWhysper

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Originally posted by n4t3py13

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Originally posted by BlackWhysper
Thank god for someone who understands :)

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The funny thing is, I knew about the unfinalized graphic engine and missing lightmaps before I even touched Beta :D.  People need to do their own homework on the progress of the game before making overgeneralized final judgments based off of interweb hype/anti-hype threads.

Someone said the game felt like Cold 3d realistic graphics.  That's 100% true when you look at screenshots and videos captured in areas that have basically no lighting effects going on.  The feeling of warmth is achieved directly through correctly done lighting.  I can't find anything to back up my statements because all of the videos that had good indoor footage with completed lighting, have seemed to disappear.  Just wait and see, and hold off on passing your final judgment until their work on the graphic engine is completed (that goes for animations as well).

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Well some people just seem to look at a few pictures and some videos to do their judging. But i guess that is kinda what our culture is all about =P anyways, great comment =)

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Of course! I cannot wait, I have been following this game for about a year, I really think its going to be great.

A lot of brads ideas remind me of EQ1, and when i first played EQ1 (before Luclin) it was challenging and rewarding and thats what i want :) Of course its going to be very different from EQ1 but i think it will hold the same feeling =D I hope!

    I've been following the game for some time and like what I've seen so far, sort of eq2ish, nothing wrong with that.  I'm more interested in the content of the game, I like what I've read about the diplomacy ideas, the crafting ideas, the fact that an ocean voyage takes some time to get somewhere.  The creators from everything I've seen and read are wanting to make a game thats a little more challenging, nothing wrong there.  So many games lately have lost sight of making themselves challenging, they feel that as long as the game is pretty you'll run the level treadmill and not want anything else from it.

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Originally posted by Amathe

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Originally posted by lordtwisted

When you compare WoW to vanguard, it like compareing a cartoon to a movie. In vanguard you have realalistic colorings, and WoW you have all the colors out of a 64 piece crayon box.

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By your definition Van Gogh is a crappy painter compared to Thomas Arvid.

The fact is that one game is stylized and impressionistic and one is more realistic. I happen to like both. But your preference for one does not make the other a "crayon box."

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Originally posted by Kazeemia
Yeah I like what I see, too. I've played Daoc and wow, and in my oppinion daoc graphics were more real than wow's. From what I can see I'd compare the graphics to Oblivion.

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Graphics matter when your building a next gen game, a game that uses next gen tech. So your dead wrong in this regard J

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Originally posted by wyzwun

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Originally posted by Kazeemia Yeah I like what I see, too. I've played Daoc and wow, and in my oppinion daoc graphics were more real than wow's. From what I can see I'd compare the graphics to Oblivion.

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Graphics matter when your building a next gen game, a game that uses next gen tech. So your dead wrong in this regard J

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I think most ppl look how the graphics is. My most important critera is, do I get a good story told, and then technical aspects and only then graphics. BUT if I am going to chose and if I am supposed to stay longer I would really have a world with inspirations, with places that catch me and character models that feel homey.

In terms of landscape Conan or LOTR just have the superior graphics and design. Looking far is a nice feature, but it kinda lacks the emotional catch.

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Originally posted by baphamet

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Originally posted by Datawight

Originally posted by crusher143On the other hand my guess is, if they r done with the main things they have to fix / add they will polish these things, remember they still have at least a half year time so I wouldnt say now just cause of a beta video that it will be the same at release.
Unless things have changed once again.. release date is in 2 months.  Not in 6 to 8.  FAQ, Brad, and Sony have all said by Xmas this year.  The game sales sites say Jan 2007.  Any way you look at it, they've been supposedly tweaking and improve these very issues for 6 to 8 months now.  I haven't seen or heard of any big strides of improvement in game play, fps, or anything else.2 to 3 months doesn't leave much room to address these issues.  Still have to make sure network code is up to par, servers functioning correctly, quests working right, bugs, bugs, bugs.. etc.It'll be another typical launch.. game half finished and tweaked.  Rest of the tweaking and polishing will happen over the next 2 years via patches and and 3 expansions they'll charge 20 bucks a piece for.  Then turn around 2 months later and sell all 3 expansions and the core game for a fraction of the price you paid to get all of them seperately.Yup.. I'm pretty negative about this release.  I think they've earned that from me though, and so far they haven't done anything to earn back my trust.  This is specially the case with Sony.

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heh, you obviously haven't been following vanguard for a bit...let me clear something up for yeah.

the release date is set for this winter not winter '06, yes i know it used to be winter '06 but they changed it for obvious reasons.

the release date that the stores have are not accurate and i will be surprised to see vanguard released before the beginning of spring 07'.

there have been multiple posts on the issue and if you look around a bit I'm sure you will find them, there was actually a huge debate about this on the FOH forums witch the Dev's have cleared it up and it will not be released this year.

i have heard of many strides of improvements since beta3 has launched (not really sure what you are talking about there) the frame rate is better, lesser machines are now able to play the game where before they weren't able to....and they have alot more people logging on and actually playing the game, from what i hear ofcource.

I'm not going to touch on the rest of your post because you have a right to your opinion and it is based mainly on speculation, but rest assured the game is not being released in 2 months, not even close.

just thought i would let ya know.

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Originally posted by crusher143

You mixed my post with Datawights one, was confused cause I thought you are talking to me :P

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lol sorry man, i hate when i do that....i really need to not post when i am tired.

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Originally posted by Phoenixs
And what is up with the Vanguard community and Wow. On the forums, ingame and on fansites. Each time someone says something bad about Vanguard, or someone says that something was done good in Wow, he get's the "return to Wow you worthless piece of sh*t!" or "go play Wow you f**king 12 year old retard!" or just "http://www.worldofwarcraft.com". The Vanguard community is hands down the worst community in this aspect. Grow up people. Wow has some very good sides, you might not like it, but others do, without being 12 year old retards.

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Originally posted by spirus7

I just d/l the Vanguard video from the forum post "You have GOT to see this tester made video".

Well thank god i did..

The game looks fine..and when i say fine i mean fine!Nothing else..

Soooooo my comments on the video are..

You have stolen alot of things from DAOC..The graffics are good but very static..they are not "warm" instead they are ..hmmm.... "cold 3D" .

The movement and attacks from the Players and NPC's  look not to real but "robotic".If you want to see real movement see some videos from WoW or AOC or WAR..etc

The Terrain from the video seems very empty..Huge castles and towns are good but they still look "cold" towards the player..

I give to the video 4/10 and ihmo Vanguard  needs ALOT of work..Tho i dont think it will make it as game versus AoC,WoW,WAR and you know why?....

Because these games dont look Robotic and their enviroment ROCKS!It looks real even if it is Comic based or not (AoC) and the movement of the Chars/NPC's is also real as hell..

Cheers!

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