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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Forum » General Discussion raquo; Bad Review of Vanguard Beta #234
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9/12/06 9:02:06 PM#41
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though. The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded. Continuing to stalk anarchyart since I saw him the other day in BF2. Just started the multiplayer myself, and now wondering which of these unlocked sniper rifles do I want to use on him?
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9/13/06 11:33:11 AM#42
This is exactly what i stated before. As harsh as the FoH member sounds on that post, he pretty much sums up what vanguard is currently like at the moment. People can say , "well its beta, what do you expect" all they want, but guess what?
Beta 2, they said it was beta, and it will get better, and they keep saying that after each beta version. Its beta 3 now and guess what, yep....... "its beta and it will get better" Now when it comes 1 week from release, i wonder if they are going to say it again "its beta and it will get better, or wait! they have this miracle build that they are holding back for release date" The other guy made a good point which is also true, if all these negative posts and remarks about vanguard are from people that have just tested it for a few hours and logged off at the first thing they didn't like in game and now made a negative post flamming it to hell without any sense of what the game really is all about is rubbish. If that were the case and vanguard and really that good and there was more goods then bads about vanguard, don't you think that with about over 5k beta invites now that their would be a bit more then say .......300-500 beta testers on at peek time during the weekends???????? And that goes for beta 3 with the more invites they sent out, hell beta 2+ you would jump up and down with joy to log in and see over 100 on a friday night. But with that said, i am with the rest of the people that hate allot of things about vanguard but still have faith and know deep down in side that if they turn shit around and work hard, they "might" pull it off. But they have a long way to go. Oh yea, the FPS is a killer and with my monster machine, it still feels like i need to upgrade it more which is pathetic and i am not doing just for a damn game. EQ2 went to the same way and look at them, yea the game got ALLOT better but they don't have a million subscribers or more like they tried to aim for during the makings. I will take shitty graphics and great gameplay any day of the week, UO was my first MMORPG ever and one of the best back in 1997-1998 and the graphics BLEW! |
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9/13/06 11:56:51 AM#43
People were saying in beta 2 that the peak simultaneous was only 100 because the game was so boring. Recently, they have been saying that in beta 3, it's 1,000. Has the peak simultaneous in the past few weeks in beta 3 already dropped from 1,000 to 300? |
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9/13/06 1:52:06 PM#44
yeah I'm not seeing alot of beta leaks since beta3 started and there are thousands of testers, you would think if it sucked so bad that there would be alot more people hating on the game and breaking the NDA because they don't care if they get removed from beta. |
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9/13/06 2:39:32 PM#45
So let me get this straight. If someone doesn't break the NDA that means they like the game. If someone does break the NDA that means they are some kind of loser who wouldn't know a good game from a bad one. That's cute. You've got it covered where no reasonable person could ever dislike the game! What color is the sky in fanboi land? EQ1, EQ2, SWG, GW, CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War, and a slew of free trials and beta tests |
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9/13/06 3:38:16 PM#46
is it really that hard for you to understand? if you were in beta and liked a game would you risk not being able to play that game just so you can publicly tell people about it? if you hated it and didn't want to play it anymore would it matter if if you got removed from beta? its not freaking rocket science and yet you still cant seem to grasp the concept. i know...its because it doesn't support your opinion, tell me what color is the sky in anti-soe land? |
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9/13/06 3:45:11 PM#47
Which one? There aren't that many so you should be able to tell me. I think you're lying though. The title of this thread is freaking hilarious. Bad review of a beta? LMAO Anyone who would review a beta shouldn't get the privelege of being referred to as retarded. I'm talking about that so called "fight video" which reveals the gameplay of Vanguard. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5km0XsbPYjY&mode=related&search= Now... Please, try to be honest- and admit that there is NO FUN in what u see!! U have to agree that this vid is PATHETIC even for a game in beta... i.e. it sucs!  Thank you, and goodnight... |
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9/13/06 3:47:54 PM#48
My criticisms of Vanguard stand regardless of whether SOE is involved or not. I don't like SOE, but I was critical of Vanguard long before they were involved. I could list 50 reasons why someone might honor an NDA even if they thought a game was trash, beginning with the fact they don't care enough to write about it. For example, I beta tested: Auto Assualt Rose Online (omg I am embarassed to admit that) DDO ((and many, many others, but we will use those as the examples) I thought all of those games were complete crap. But I never broke the NDA. Yet by your fallacious logic I loved those games! EQ1, EQ2, SWG, GW, CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War, and a slew of free trials and beta tests |
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9/13/06 3:54:50 PM#49
It looks like EQ2 to me. Which isn't bad.
Anyway, about leaks, I didn't like DDO. I was an Alpha 1 tester. I tried like hell to like the game. I never broke the NDA. I tried to tell them were they went wrong. I looked for bugs, etc. It was just boring. Here is the thing, everyone, I mean everyone knew it was boring. There is something to be said for rumors. Vanguard is going to be EQ2 with updated graphics. I will also bet dollars to donuts that end game will be raiding and if you aren't a raider you are a second class. These companies are too scared to buck the trend of level, level, level, raid, raid, raid.
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9/13/06 4:19:26 PM#50
I have only heard bad things as of yet. I love the "build your own cities" concept but what is the PVP like. If the game looks like the videos I have seen that's pathetic. Games that came out years ago had much better graphics.
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9/13/06 4:22:28 PM#51
that is very true, there are many reasons why if someone didn't like beta they would not break NDA. but my point is, if they did like it and wanted to continue playing it THEY WILL NOT BREAK THE NDA TO RISK BEING REMOVED FROM BETA, PERIOD. also assuming that there are thousands of new beta invites why is it that there are not tons of beta leaks saying how much people hate beta3? not everyone that hates beta3 is going to keep quiet (as we seen in beta2 leaks) if it is so bad where are they? thats all i wanna know....the fact is there are thousands of new beta testers now and alot fewer beta leaks, please explain to me why that is? and as far as you thinking i am some fanboi that ignores facts because I'm all on the Dev's nuts it is soooo far from the truth. see I'm the type of person that does not take speculation and consider it fact, i think for myself i don't consider what some disgruntled beta tester says about the game and assume it is fact or assume it is the same way i will feel about vanguard. i wait to see for myself, like the gameplay movies......i agree with alot of people that the animations are not very good ATM i go with facts or what i have seen first hand, not beta leaks because again all the beta leaks are being posted by people that don't like the game and don't care if they get removed from beta. why should i believe that what some dood on the internet says, when he says that he heard from a friend that heard from a friend that beta sucks? why should i assume that just because he doesn't like vanguard or the condition of beta that i will also not like it? no, you are wrong about me...facts and seeing it with my own eyes are the only thing that matters to me....speculation is what means nothing. |
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9/13/06 11:39:49 PM#52
Get off it with your "bad review of beta" crap. Its a beta. You don't review betas. They are mechanical test. They are not the retail game.
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They are out there. But I cannot post them in this forum. The mods have warned me against posting any further links to any beta 3 reviews, good or bad, that exist on the Interwebs. But they do exist if you look for them. |
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9/14/06 9:38:06 AM#54
I'm talking about that so called "fight video" which reveals the gameplay of Vanguard. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5km0XsbPYjY&mode=related&search= Now... Please, try to be honest- and admit that there is NO FUN in what u see!! U have to agree that this vid is PATHETIC even for a game in beta... i.e. it sucs! Thank you, and goodnight... Ok honestly I think someone was just feeling left out of the the flame Vanguard Train. I just watched your so-called "Pathetic" video and it really wasn't that bad. First of all most fight scenario's in mmorpgs look similar to that with the exception of different classes i.e. warriors,hunters and rogue's have different moves and such. Then you have the fact that it's BETA therefore a lot of the final product polish hasn't gotten put in yet. IMHO that fact that you are going to decide whether or not a game is fun by watching an ingame video from Beta seriously questions your judgement. |
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hmm.... this looks interesting.... |
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9/14/06 4:45:34 PM#56
Well, For all of you that are wondering where are the posts screaming bloody murder about beta 3, i would love to point you to the oficial vanguard beta boards.
You see, its quite simple, there have been several leaks concerning beta 3, about as many as there were of beta 2, myself if some of you remmenber, was quite adamant on my critisism of beta 2. But as i atested, the vast majority of complaints were beeing made on the beta board. The vanguard beta tester community has been quite vocal on whats wrong with the game during the wholle beta process since beta 2 was launched last christmas, some of the complaints were adressed, alot of them werent, mostly with the "it will be implemented/looked at/revised/worked on/ on later beta phases" responses coming from sigils part. Myself, im still on the fence on this one, the game will either be a modest sucess akin to what everquest 2 is right now in terms of popularity, as i see it apealing to the same type of player, casual but with options for a more hardcore grinding/raiding gameplay at the endgame. That beeing said, it can also become one of the most troublesome AAA mmorpg launches since anarchy online, mainly do to the fact that sigil is impleting a vast list of features that probably wont have enough testing time during the betas. Why do i say not enough time to test and perfect all the features? If you look at the progress between each beta, it has been slow and extremely morose in implementation, the features we do have working, are still so bug ridden or incomplete, that sometimes the only thing you feel like doing is smack the monitor in agravation. All of the advertised "big features" are not yet ingame in any playable state, and considering sigils track record at implementing fixes/features in a timely manner, i would think that alot of the content is beeing put on the "patch after release" basket. The extremely slow development of the beta is something sigil must be worried about, their financial backing can only streach so far i would think, before the preasure from publisher and investors mounts up to a point were launching the game will be priority to the company, and the timetable they have been "leaking" to testers and press for the suppossed launch, leaves little time for sigil to be messing about the beta phase of the project, has they been doing for almost a year now. Basicly, what im trying to say is, its about time sigil stoped experimenting with the game systems and make up their minds about what they think the players want, because everytime they completly redesign a gameplay system or think "oh it would be cool to have this feature in the game", they are geting themselfs into more trouble, as any game developer can testify. Anyways, i think people would be happy to know, the fans at least, that the game is shaping up as a valid alternative to everquest 2, but still has a massive ammount of work ahead for it to have a chance at a sucessfull launch. All ur Mountain Dew is belong to me. |
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9/14/06 6:52:07 PM#57
hmm.... this looks interesting.... Too bad it isn't true.
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9/14/06 8:19:48 PM#58
Too bad it isn't true. Q F E I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!! In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
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9/15/06 9:15:42 AM#59
Like others have stated, you can't give a review from beta.
I agree that some people that break the NDA are doing it because they don't like the game. I have heard rumors that some of the beta testers love it, so I can't say that 100% of the people that break the NDA hate the game. |
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