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Originally posted by sebbonx

I was not PLed by an entire guild, it took one druid to do most of it!

Now that we are talking no exploits-play time!!!

Diretemus druid combine server 54th level 9 days played

Redeagle druid combine server 60th 13 days played

Flonne Necromancer 60th Combine server 10 days played

etc etc etc etc...

You don't think we are smart enough to look up actual play times?! YOU STUNK AT EQ1 I DIDN'T!!! THESE PEOPLE DON'T!! EVERYTHING IS EASY NOW, A CHALLENGING GAME MUST BE A FACTOR OF AT LEAST 5 TIMES MORE DIFFICULT THEN EQ1 TO BE A CHALLENGE! EQ1 WAS NOT HARD, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE ON WHAT YOU WERE DOING, JUST ADMIT IT!!!

You have been stomped, your lies exposed. EQplayers shows it all, now quit saying "EQ is harder then WoW" it has been proven you are WRONG.

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Originally posted by Kyoruto

BTW CAPSLOCKS MAKES EVERYTHING MORE IMPORTANT JUST LOOK AT THIS SENTENCE!!! BRIMING WITH EXCITEMENT!!

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Originally posted by sebbonx
I was not PLed by an entire guild, it took one druid to do most of it!
Now that we are talking no exploits-play time!!!
Diretemus druid combine server 54th level 9 days played
Redeagle druid combine server 60th 13 days played
Flonne Necromancer 60th Combine server 10 days played
etc etc etc etc...
You don't think we are smart enough to look up actual play times?! YOU STUNK AT EQ1 I DIDN'T!!! THESE PEOPLE DON'T!! EVERYTHING IS EASY NOW, A CHALLENGING GAME MUST BE A FACTOR OF AT LEAST 5 TIMES MORE DIFFICULT THEN EQ1 TO BE A CHALLENGE! EQ1 WAS NOT HARD, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE ON WHAT YOU WERE DOING, JUST ADMIT IT!!!
You have been stomped, your lies exposed. EQplayers shows it all, now quit saying "EQ is harder then WoW" it has been proven you are WRONG.

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LOL!! what am i lying about? I'm not the one that got pled to lvl 63 then pretend that i did it myself. i know from experience wow is easier to play that eq.

if you want to pretend all this BS you are typing is true go ahead because nobody will agree with you, link me to a site where anyone agrees with you.....make a post in the general discussion and make a poll and lest see how many people agree with you (other than your 2 alt accounts you post with)

i know wtf I'm talking about, i don't need to prove anything to some troll....you haven't proved a damn thing to me other than the fact that you need serious psychological help.

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Originally posted by Vengeful

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Originally posted by Kyoruto

BTW CAPSLOCKS MAKES EVERYTHING MORE IMPORTANT JUST LOOK AT THIS SENTENCE!!! BRIMING WITH EXCITEMENT!!

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   AHHH I'm on fire!

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Your continued attacks of a far superior EQ1 player amuse me, shows what scum are playing Vanguard. No wonder Brad himself has attacked the beta testers and his posters at Vanguard. You fanbois appear to be the ones with mental issues, you have been disproven, all MMORPGs are to easy after years experience has taught every decent player exploits and methods that are completely legit to level to quickly.

Since you want to bandy around the word "truth"-lets do it shall we?!

1. The Vanguard beta is a disaster, they can't even get people to log in

2. Brad had to chastise the fanbois to quit telling people not to play Vanguard if they didn't like certain aspects of the game. It has cost the game potential players already. Vanguard posters are known as the most spiteful bunch out there.

3. The game won't launch on time, not even close

4. The SOE merger was a disaster that cost Vanguard 50% of it's player base before it even launched!

You seem to be the one posting multiple at-a-boys under multiple names, the game looks awful. Get it straight, I hate EQ1, EQ2, and WoW. In fact I don't think there is a single MMORPG out currently that is worth paying a monthly fee for, they all are crap. I expect much more in mob AI then in the current crop. The only games I am interested in is Conan (no kiddies I hope), and WAR-I believe PvP is the only thing that is challenging with the piss poor mob AI.

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Originally posted by krenalor

1. The Vanguard beta is a disaster, they can't even get people to log in

Please provide evidence to this?

4. The SOE merger was a disaster that cost Vanguard 50% of it's player base before it even launched!

No one will care who hosts the servers.

 In fact I don't think there is a single MMORPG out currently that is worth paying a monthly fee for, they all are crap.

Vanguard hasn't been released yet so there's still a chance you may enjoy it.

 Conan (no kiddies I hope),

This is funny!

and WAR-I believe PvP is the only thing that is challenging with the piss poor mob AI.

Last I checked there was a warhammer and a conan forum.

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  Can't we all just get along. 

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/25/1548236

is where I saw beta problems mentioned

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Vanguard:SoH_beta_in_trouble_

more, who is heartlessgamer? Seems he has an axe to grind with Vanguard bigger then Krenalor's.

Vanguard didn't launch yet, but it is more of the same first generation crap.

I dominated EQ during my brief stay, but WoW is 100 times better, alas I don't have the time to waste playing a silly online game as much as I would like to anymore.

"We're getting 600-700 players at peak and averaging 400-500 at all times, and growing the game, as I've said, about 500 players every weekday. So far the game is holding up nicely, we're just starting to see some critical mass -- some signs of a player driven economy, a nice spread out of people all over Thestra and the parts of Qalia that are open. The servers are handling the load nicely, we're making tweaks, almost a patch every day (SOE is great at making it easy for us to patch, whether it's a large patch including art assets, or just updating the database, say, tweaking a noobie yard's population). ..."

Posted by Brad at FOHguild.org

for the complete post with updated screenshots...

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/24457-more-exclusives-foh.html#post546892

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Originally posted by sebbonx

I dominated EQ during my brief stay, but WoW is 100 times better, alas I don't have the time to waste playing a silly online game as much as I would like to anymore.

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again, you didn't dominate YOU WERE POWER LEVELED, you didn't even play the game you let someone els play if for you.

also i find it amusing that you claim you don't have the time to play games anymore yet you have plenty of time to troll these forums with your 3 alt accounts....

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Originally posted by bylogic

"We're getting 600-700 players at peak and averaging 400-500 at all times, and growing the game, as I've said, about 500 players every weekday. So far the game is holding up nicely, we're just starting to see some critical mass -- some signs of a player driven economy, a nice spread out of people all over Thestra and the parts of Qalia that are open. The servers are handling the load nicely, we're making tweaks, almost a patch every day (SOE is great at making it easy for us to patch, whether it's a large patch including art assets, or just updating the database, say, tweaking a noobie yard's population). ..."

Posted by Brad at FOHguild.org

for the complete post with updated screenshots...

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/24457-more-exclusives-foh.html#post546892

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Originally posted by DyersEve0666


I played, WoW, I had a blast with it, but it lost its edge for me, but thats not the point of this post.  I played EQ I loved it, but its lost its hold on me as well. 

I dont know if Vanguard will be any good, but I dont see how you can truly bash it, till its out and you actually play it.  If its fun, then play, if its not then shove it and dont play.  Its really that simple.  If you dont like the game, dont play it, as easy as that.

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Used to be one of my favored metallica songs  :)

I agree, EQ was fun, so was WOW.  But yeah, anyone who says EQ is easier than WOW never played through both.  In group content in WOW you can often just about fall asleep and still win, leveling is damn fast, even if you play casual.  No question I enjoyed it, but no question it is a compartively easier game than many, EQ included.

And it's true that no one knows what the game will really be like at launch, though beta 3 players have an idea.  Most of us won't have a real idea until beta 5 when NDA is lifted and they open up a bunch of servers (it's just about an open beta).

The sheer level of ignorance though in most of the people who reportedly "hate VG" is astounding though.  Many of the things they reportedly "dont' like" about the game don't even apply to it.

My enthusiasm comes from the official info released and the level of commitment the devs are showing.  So while I don't know what the game will be like and only have the vaguest of ideas, I do have a good feel for how the devs are approaching things and I like what I'm reading in that regard.  :D

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Originally posted by solymnar

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Originally posted by DyersEve0666


I played, WoW, I had a blast with it, but it lost its edge for me, but thats not the point of this post.  I played EQ I loved it, but its lost its hold on me as well. 

I dont know if Vanguard will be any good, but I dont see how you can truly bash it, till its out and you actually play it.  If its fun, then play, if its not then shove it and dont play.  Its really that simple.  If you dont like the game, dont play it, as easy as that.

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Used to be one of my favored metallica songs  :)

I agree, EQ was fun, so was WOW.  But yeah, anyone who says EQ is easier than WOW never played through both.  In group content in WOW you can often just about fall asleep and still win, leveling is damn fast, even if you play casual.  No question I enjoyed it, but no question it is a compartively easier game than many, EQ included.

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Originally posted by DarkAngle
Holy shit, danm lots of geeks on here a man writes what he thinks of the game and i get a English topic.

That footage i on youtude, i know its from a camara taping. Its the char models that are all messed up so are the graphic's from the iup.com downloadable clips. There's a interview tape that shows the casting set up / party system.

The game is basicly party based without any kind of end game content.

well, hopefully i did on my english test this time please all don't grade me again. Failing on a online form's site really hurts :( . lol. maybe i'll take up some forums typing / logic classes. Anyone got a address to a online english course for proper forums grammer / structure course.

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Originally posted by jimmyman99

Im really sorry people. This is my mistake. I have a pet monkey (a chimapnzee) called Bobo, and I taught it to type. Sometimes Bobo makes a realy nice and emotionally rich short stories, but I never realy thought that Bobo would learn how to go on the internet, go to mmorpg.com, create a new account and post stuff! Im really sorry, ill put a password on my computer so Bobo will not post anything like this again. My sincere apologies. Bobo, behave! No beer/porn for you for a month! Now go back to your cage and stop throwing poop at people!!!

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Originally posted by baphamet

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Originally posted by sebbonx

Originally posted by Amathe
Allow me to translate. He said he downloaded the game and it is a piece of crap.

Yes, we already knew that, this post is meaningless to the millions that already know-Vanguard is a flop.

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exaggerate much? do millions of people even know of its existence? and since they all know its a "flop", surly the game has been released then....no? then how can a game be a flop before it has even been released?

oh i get it, its a flop because YOU don't like it.....freaking unbelievable.

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Originally posted by knight1138

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Originally posted by baphamet

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Originally posted by sebbonx

Originally posted by Amathe
Allow me to translate. He said he downloaded the game and it is a piece of crap.

Yes, we already knew that, this post is meaningless to the millions that already know-Vanguard is a flop.

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exaggerate much? do millions of people even know of its existence? and since they all know its a "flop", surly the game has been released then....no? then how can a game be a flop before it has even been released?

oh i get it, its a flop because YOU don't like it.....freaking unbelievable.

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lol couldnt have said it better myself lol.

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Well, Microsoft dropped it and Sony picked it up.  Can you say 'EQ3' ?  ROFL  And have you seen the screenies and videos?  Talk about depressing.  Sheesh!

I'm passing on this one.

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Originally posted by Born

Well, Microsoft dropped it and Sony picked it up.  Can you say 'EQ3' ?  ROFL  And have you seen the screenies and videos?  Talk about depressing.  Sheesh!

I'm passing on this one.

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No, Microsoft pressured Sigil to release VG early so Sigil bought their rights back and grabbed a different publisher.  Can you say 'Someone didn't pay any attention' ?

Because you know...it would make so much sense for SOE to help publish a title that will compete with their own right?  Or perhaps VG is nothing like EQ2 and therefor simply adds to the attractiveness of having a Station Pass?  Gee...I wonder which one is more likely? 

A lot of the screen shots are downright gorgeous, some are average, none have been terrible though I have my own issues with the character skin modeling.

A lot of the animations are very poor, the devs have stated their intent to fix/polish/rework them in beta 4.  Right now their focus is optomizing the speed of the graphics engine to run well on slower computers.