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First of all I want to say that this is not a post trying to slander or trying to point at faults or anything. I just want to tell you about my final conclusion which occured to me today.

Minutes ago when I was reading this forum a sudden though struck me like lightning. I suddenly knew that I would never log on to Vanguard again...

I was there at release of the game and liked the game. It was huge, and I loved all the promises but then reality struck and alot of people opened their eyes. I was one of them. I was angry, I admit it. How could they ruin this game? After that I have subscribed now and then hoping that this time I would love it again, but to no avail, it is too late.

And now I know that I will not log in again....  :( and it sucks.

Im at the end of the road with Vanguard, I know it now. May you rest in peace, its too late for me.

And to you who love it. I would love to be you hehe   :)

Happy hunting

Sorry to see you leave, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Who knows? You might return some time in the future.

I'm one of the people that tried this game a few years ago and didn't care for it due to the reasons that are frequently quoted. While waiting for Book 8 in LOTRO I decided to take advantage of the free playing time last weekend and I absolutely love it now. Once you get the hang of crafting and diplomacy you realize how much more this game has to offer. The only problem I'm having is trying to complete every quest that I find because there seems to be thousands of things to see and do in Telon. You almost have to create different characters and play them on the different continents in order to take it all in.

Bet you'd be staying if Silius wasn't the lead developer.

I have to admit, I keep trying the game and I just can't bring myself to renew my subscription past one month. I am not sure what it is. I load up the game, fire up the updates, excitement looming and memory straining to recall my past characters. I play for a few weeks and I enjoy the hell out of it and then suddenly.......nothing. I just lose all interest. It may actually be more about my personality than the game but I have certainly spent months and months on other games and did not suffer this sudden, inexplicable malaise.

The fact is I love the game in theory. I love the open world, the unique and ambitious character classes, the crafting and diplomacy, virtually everything about it. It all appeals to me in my mind but once I start doing it it just suffocates. The world is absoluetely beautiful and I am one of those lucky few who have very few graphic problems so I don't understand why I always drift away from it. I really have few bad things to say about the game except for the fact that it is hard to give it my money. Anyone with some insight into my affliction or suffer the same with this game?

 I have done the EXACT same thing with Vanguard and Eq2 ...  load it up, excitedly pick and a class and away I go. Two weeks later it hits me .....  I don't feel like logging into this game. I know it would be fun, I know there is plenty to do.... but I can't bring myself to stick it out.

Some games seem to do that to me, so I just move on. Currently LOTRO is doing this to me... Almost 60, got my first Rad peice... and I don't know if I want to log in.

Waiting for Aion  and Fallen Earth.

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Originally posted by nobodycool
I have to admit, I keep trying the game and I just can't bring myself to renew my subscription past one month. I am not sure what it is. I load up the game, fire up the updates, excitement looming and memory straining to recall my past characters. I play for a few weeks and I enjoy the hell out of it and then suddenly.......nothing. I just lose all interest. It may actually be more about my personality than the game but I have certainly spent months and months on other games and did not suffer this sudden, inexplicable malaise.
The fact is I love the game in theory. I love the open world, the unique and ambitious character classes, the crafting and diplomacy, virtually everything about it. It all appeals to me in my mind but once I start doing it it just suffocates. The world is absoluetely beautiful and I am one of those lucky few who have very few graphic problems so I don't understand why I always drift away from it. I really have few bad things to say about the game except for the fact that it is hard to give it my money. Anyone with some insight into my affliction or suffer the same with this game?

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There are some games that just don't jive with you. I think everyone has that issue with certain kinds of games.

I feel similarly about EVE. I really do like EVE a lot. I get all excited when I see new stuff added, new videos, screens, etc. I fire up my old account, jump in and lose interest after a month or so. I've given it three shots over the years with the most recent one a few months ago. I lasted the longest on the third try. Maybe the fourth try I'll stick with it?

You mean that feeling of "something" is missing?   Like a lack of direction, goals, and reason therefore you lack the motivation to keep going?  You wonder why you're leveling and why things are the way they are ingame?  Been there done that.

But then you could also be burned out on MMO's, which is often the case with gamers today.

Originally posted by Mardy

You mean that feeling of "something" is missing?   Like a lack of direction, goals, and reason therefore you lack the motivation to keep going?  You wonder why you're leveling and why things are the way they are ingame?  Been there done that.

 

But then you could also be burned out on MMO's, which is often the case with gamers today.

I think you may be on to something with both points. Vanguard just sort of feels like life if you were thrust into the world at adulthood with no prior knowledge, goals, training, predilections, desires and wants being developed or cultivated. You just sort of fell from nothingness and plopped into the world. The difficulty is in deciding what he hell you WANT to do let alone what you are SUPPOSED to do.

I also think I am burnt out on MMO's. The market is saturated and sadly it is saturated with crap.

 I don't think it is so much that I am burned out on MMO's.  I still get that " It's Prom Night" feeling when I undress a new title. The market right now just seems a touch on the stale side. September should help that never the less.

Heh'

Got the same with AoC which i thought was pretty good initially. Through Tortage anyways. So re-subbed to Vanguard after leaving shortly after release. Must say, I am enjoying it at the moment. Lol, didn't think I would be scrapping over the same mobs as others (on the road to Southwatch.) But the old days of sticking with an MMO for a year or three are probably gone. But at least theres plenty of choice now. I packed up EQ2 for good.... three times now.

Thats excactly what I have been doing with both EQ2, AoC and now Vanguard. I have been so excited to play after a while, but then I cancel the accounts after a while.

Maybe its time to not play mmos before something really cool comes out. I remember WoW in the beginning. It was so cool. In Molten Core in the beginning.

Maybe im just burned out? Time for a summer break and then we will see again until winter. Anyway i know one thing for sure.

Vanguard, EQ2 and EvE are now games i will not log on to anymore.

 I am seeing more and more people  getting burned out and quiting since the level increase from 50 to 55. 

This level range is a very big grind.  I think they designed it to be that way.  Unfortuantely for some people if you put a challenge in front of them they feel compelled to do it., and when I mean compelled I mean it becomes a natsy complusion bordering on addiction.   I dont know if this is the OPs case or if it is why you are choosing to leave the game.

I am continuing to play but I have no intention in trying to grind my way to 55 and complete all of the PotA trials.  Even if I was to win a multi-state lottery and I could stay home and play this game 12 hours a day it would be a waste of time and not healthy.

Was this a poor design?  I would say so, but it comes down to a larger question of attempting to keep subscribers playing the  game.  It would have been better to add content that would have been enjoyable, kept users playing, and not felt like a grind.  Unfortuantely the resources to develop this content are jut not there.

Originally posted by Mardy

You mean that feeling of "something" is missing?   Like a lack of direction, goals, and reason therefore you lack the motivation to keep going?  You wonder why you're leveling and why things are the way they are ingame?  Been there done that.

 

But then you could also be burned out on MMO's, which is often the case with gamers today.

Very well said.

Try a single player RPG and take a break from mmo's for a while and it just may rejuvenate your interest.

Originally posted by nobodycool

I have to admit, I keep trying the game and I just can't bring myself to renew my subscription past one month. I am not sure what it is. I load up the game, fire up the updates, excitement looming and memory straining to recall my past characters. I play for a few weeks and I enjoy the hell out of it and then suddenly.......nothing. I just lose all interest. It may actually be more about my personality than the game but I have certainly spent months and months on other games and did not suffer this sudden, inexplicable malaise.

The fact is I love the game in theory. I love the open world, the unique and ambitious character classes, the crafting and diplomacy, virtually everything about it. It all appeals to me in my mind but once I start doing it it just suffocates. The world is absoluetely beautiful and I am one of those lucky few who have very few graphic problems so I don't understand why I always drift away from it. I really have few bad things to say about the game except for the fact that it is hard to give it my money. Anyone with some insight into my affliction or suffer the same with this game?

I know exactly how ya feel. I am finding it harder n harder to log in. Subbed a few weeks ago, again, but doubtfully I will resub for another month. I can't say anything bad about this game or the community. But there is something about it, that I can't put my finger on...that keeps me from staying too long.