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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Forum » General Discussion » vanguard deserves a populated european server

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  bobm111

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 156

 
OP  3/09/13 9:05:28 PM#1

well with all the trash being presented to mmorpg players the last few years i must say vanguard deserves a well populated euorpean server. A great game with some of the best crafting in the mmo world. A mini game like diplomacy which like crafting is a game in itself. Not to mention a huge open and seamless world to explore and pve in.

Im just starting up on the eurpean server with a 6 month sub and would love to have some more people join me,

Also i have a mumble server available which i can set up to run 24/7.

So all of you lacking a in depth pve mmorpg i recommend highly vanguard saga of heroes.

and getting on the european server which unfortunately has a low population. Vanguard deserves a european contingent much much more then many of the mmorpgs out there these days.

My ingame main will be "Tisah" a cleric, carpenter, diplomat. And i am on usually every day at some point in time.

 

Bobm111

  bobm111

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 156

 
OP  3/11/13 5:51:52 AM#2
just a clarification "Zelah" will be ingame name as the other was taken..
  Vonatar

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 608

3/11/13 6:03:42 AM#3

The problem is, it's old and clunky. Some people don't care and can look past that and uncover the incredible depth the game has. But overall I think it's too late for VG to have a serious resurgence.

 

I think SOE missed their chance some years back when some time and effort to relaunch VG at that time could have yielded a healthy population. Trouble is SOE never really cared about their "rough diamond" until it was a bit too late.

  Everket

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Joined: 3/22/11
Posts: 228

3/11/13 2:43:36 PM#4
I'd love to play on the european server, but at the moment there is just no reason to. My ping is fine on the US one, and there are plenty of people to play with even with my EU timezone. But I think the game deserves a wider EU audience as well.
  bobm111

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 156

 
OP  3/11/13 11:42:55 PM#5
Originally posted by Everket
I'd love to play on the european server, but at the moment there is just no reason to. My ping is fine on the US one, and there are plenty of people to play with even with my EU timezone. But I think the game deserves a wider EU audience as well.

np mate. Anyway started out again as a cleric. I elected to stay away from the isle and started straight in the desert amongst the sand flies and heat in heavy armor. But standing near start area and looking down at khal miles away still is so awesome. Managed to get to level 10 adventuring and l4 diplomat first day ill work on crafting when i start reaching the first smaller towns.

A few years ago had level 50 cleric the higest back then, but now 55 as i understand it. This time around im going to level a cleric adventurer, diplomat, boat builder. But also a dps of some sort as i never tried a dps char in vanguard and she will build houses and be a jeweler at some point.

One thing i did notice it appears they made it easier to level or im am getting better at playing. The latter i doubt very much lol.

For people who never played vanguard you are really missing an mmo jewel..

Ha ha got mail and cant find a mailbox. Use to be in bank in kal but not there any more lol.

 

bobm111

  Lorken

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Joined: 11/13/08
Posts: 18

3/18/13 2:23:04 PM#6
Yeah I agree the game is unmatched in terms of complexity when compared to most theme-park mmorpgs. I really hope the style of this game is rebooted either by sony or a new company. Till then I'll start Lorkan ingame and have fun while this ship lasts.
  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/02/13 7:09:38 AM#7
Originally posted by bobm111

Ha ha got mail and cant find a mailbox. Use to be in bank in kal but not there any more lol.

The mailbox in Khal is still in the bank and still at the same place.

 

  Bigdaddyx

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 2005

4/02/13 7:17:46 AM#8
Ever heard 'you get what you deserve'? this boat ha sailed. EU server has been up for years but since EU players didn't support it now it is gone.
  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/03/13 3:01:31 AM#9

Err, what ? Didnt support it ?!?

Players dont "support" gameservers. Thats would mean you would actively pay for playing on a server. You dont. ANYONE could log into the EU server if they wanted to, no matter if they played from Europe or China or USA or whatever.

I doubt that the whole move would have been avoided if more people would play EU. And its clear Sony doesnt want any discussion about it. They announced this procedure shorttime, just a week before they would actually do it. So they obviously are trying to avoid any discussion. Just like the US server currently has an obvious influx of people, the EU server saw finally a new active guild. Unfortunately they will probably dissolve once they move to the US server.

Right now I have a ping of 100ms to the EU server, which is great, and a ping of 300ms to the US server, which is well, not good, but still in the tolerable area. This option will soon be gone.

  xegiie

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Joined: 6/09/11
Posts: 6

4/06/13 9:12:14 AM#10

yeah the EU server is empty, i started few weeks ago, and i met 1 - 2 ppl a day... this fact alone and mby with help of dated graphics drove me away...

 

but blacksmithing is so cool there... also too bad they had to adapt wow mining so you run like ..... over map instead of going into actual mine... so silly sooo silly cant do anything:(

  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/08/13 10:35:32 AM#11

What ? The EU servers had 50+ people online in the high times. Have you by chance not found out about the "/who all count" command ?

And the active guild of Halgar, "The Mist of Halgar", is now on Telon.

If you assume you will see many players in Vanguard, that would only happen if the server would reach its maximum player limit. Vanguard is HUGE and theres a lot of space.

  Everket

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Joined: 3/22/11
Posts: 228

4/08/13 1:36:47 PM#12

I was part of that guild, and still is.

 

Maybe things changed over the last month or two, but two months back, I barely saw 10+ online.

 

50+ online is still too low imo, but it seems odd that they merged the servers, if the server actually doubled++++ population the past month.

  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/09/13 3:35:02 AM#13

Well, I dont know about that. I stayed subbed the past year, but lost interest in really playing, just logged in from time to time. Only last month I really started playing again and I saw about 500 people on Telon and about 50 people on Halgar at this time, in their respective main time (for the USA and for Europe). Even when I logged in at an odd hour, Halgar still had 20 people online, and Telon never saw less than 200 people any time, /who all count always complained it reached the limit.

 

  JimmyYO

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Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 541

4/09/13 3:37:47 AM#14
Vanguard deserves to be put out of it's misery. When the games creator leaves it for a second time to go help a more successful game(5 years older then it) you know it's beyond saving.
  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/09/13 6:17:33 AM#15

What a weird post.

And Brad never left voluntarily.

  kevjards

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Joined: 9/27/10
Posts: 1453

4/09/13 6:25:21 AM#16
tbh i am suprised that this game has reached nearly 6 yr old given the state it was at release..but its a pretty stable game now.i just cant play it anymore..i gave it 2 yrs and loved every minute of it.has for a european server there is no point..they had halgar which was basically unpopulated for over a year..mind you that was before f2p.i think once eqnext comes out that this game will be shut down permanantely.i maybe wrong but i think most VG players will move to eqnext.
  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/09/13 8:27:13 AM#17

LOL !

Why dont you inform yourself about what EQ Next actually is, before you claim people of any game would move to it ?

Its planned to be a damn sandbox.

It has nothing to do with Vanguard. EQ and EQ2 are much more games like Vanguard, than EQ Next.

And if I wanted to play either EQ or EQ2, I would do so. I'm not interested at all. EQ has intolerably outdated graphics and EQ2 is too easy and WoW-like.

 

  LeahXtwo

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Joined: 2/27/13
Posts: 39

4/09/13 8:33:17 AM#18
Originally posted by bobm111

well with all the trash being presented to mmorpg players the last few years i must say vanguard deserves a well populated euorpean server. A great game with some of the best crafting in the mmo world. A mini game like diplomacy which like crafting is a game in itself. Not to mention a huge open and seamless world to explore and pve in.

Im just starting up on the eurpean server with a 6 month sub and would love to have some more people join me,

Also i have a mumble server available which i can set up to run 24/7.

So all of you lacking a in depth pve mmorpg i recommend highly vanguard saga of heroes.

and getting on the european server which unfortunately has a low population. Vanguard deserves a european contingent much much more then many of the mmorpgs out there these days.

My ingame main will be "Tisah" a cleric, carpenter, diplomat. And i am on usually every day at some point in time.

 

Bobm111

I like Vanguard. But seamless? I remember running around into BUMP Gah W W W.. What Was that? A mini zone line..

  Caldrin

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Joined: 10/02/04
Posts: 4305

4/09/13 8:43:51 AM#19
Originally posted by LeahXtwo
 

I like Vanguard. But seamless? I remember running around into BUMP Gah W W W.. What Was that? A mini zone line..

That issue is a bit better these days but it is a seamless world.. other than a bit of lag when moving from one area of the map to another.. it just has to load a lot of stuff in..

There is no long loading screen or anything, you can see other people in the next zone and so on.. o

My 3D models
http://dragon3d.webs.com/

  Adamantine

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Joined: 1/07/08
Posts: 3394

War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt

4/11/13 4:23:48 AM#20

Yes, thats true, the zoning problem is annoying.

Especially since the technique how to program a true seamless game has been known a long time before Vanguard released. Its simple: make the "zone" (a lot) smaller and always load the zones around the current zone. This way when you reach a zone barrier nothing has to be loaded and the transition can be done smoothly, while in the background the new zones connected to the entered zone but not connected to the previous zone start getting to be loaded.

Dont think they will ever change that now, though.

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