to dispute you with evidence i just did your /who count all i got 157 players BUT WAIT i did it my way and got allot more than that and this is NOT PEAK TIME

i did 50-54 to

Yes i know there is a couple of overlaping numbers for say 1-10 and 10-20 it shows the 10s 2 times but that still pummels the first number i got from doing the /who count all command

there are more than 40 players just at lvl 55 AT THIS MOMENT your nubers are wrong

Originally posted by Teikk

to dispute you with evidence i just did your /who count all i got 157 players BUT WAIT i did it my way and got allot more than that and this is NOT PEAK TIME

 

Sounds like you just count the same people multiple times. It's a common mistake

@ Starpower

While I sympathize with your truthfulness and your wish to stick to the facts, I don't really understand the purpose of these posts. We all know VG's pop is abysmally low. Who cares whether there are 150 or 300 players online? The game was obviously designed for many times those numbers, so the current situation is a failure no matter how you look at it.

Lying about a pop boom is of course never the way to go, but I don't see the need to rub the low numbers in either. VG's population will probably not grow very much until f2p anyway, so unless statistics is your idea of fun I can't really see the use of these detailed accounts.   

Peace.

now that i got the pictures to work

Originally posted by Biskop

@ Starpower

While I sympathize with your truthfulness and your wish to stick to the facts, I don't really understand the purpose of these posts. We all know VG's pop is abysmally low. Who cares whether there are 150 or 300 players online? The game was obviously designed for many times those numbers, so the current situation is a failure no matter how you look at it.

Lying about a pop boom is of course never the way to go, but I don't see the need to rub the low numbers in either. VG's population will probably not grow very much until f2p anyway, so unless statistics is your idea of fun I can't really see the use of these detailed accounts.   

Peace.

I care for one. I love Vanguard and curious to see if they are actually lying to push for more people to come join or if there is an actual increase

So far I'm actually seeing an increase. On a normal weekday numbers haven't reached 300 in a long time. It has been around the 200 give or take a few for the better part of a year. Even lower during those months after SWTORs release. If by this weekend numbers rise to about 500 then I for one will be stoked. It will show a positive trend

Also bear in mind the changes made to VG. It no longer has the capacity for several thousand players. Specific, very desired quest lines, simply can't hold up to many people waiting in line to do them without causing a bottleneck effect nobody wants. Hunters League for instance. If the server can retain 800 people then the game has enough people on one server to keep everybody happy. It doesn't take much

The fact it's counter productive to lie to a potential new subscriber telling them the server is booming, is just a very small part of it

pictures dont lie, just look at them to know that your numbers are wrong

Originally posted by Teikk

pictures dont lie, just look at them to know that your numbers are wrong

You are still doing it wrong Teikk. Do /who count all 55

Remember to add *count*. Then your list won't be congested at 40 people

It doesn't work if you add - in between the numbers. It's clear and cut. /who count all 50 55 not /who count all 50-55

Right now there's 51 people on who's level 55

i know it doesnt work like that and for yoru reference there are 49 lvl 55 players on right now.

Originally posted by Teikk

i know it doesnt work like that and for yoru reference there are 49 lvl 55 players on right now.

Yup I think you have it now. There's no point in doing the total headcount right now since this is EU primetime and where the server population is low. In about 7 or 8 hours from now I'll do the next headcount.

Originally posted by Starpower

Wednsday - Last count for the day when the server is at its peak

Wednsdays count ends with 309 people online at 9.30 pm EST (US)

 

Good news about that is, it's a moderate increase compared to 6 months ago where there would only be 200~ people on at this hour on a weekday. It will be more interesting to see the Saturday population where Vanguard is at it peak throughout the week

OCD much? Youve really been goin on and on about this numbers argument.

I personally tend to play the MMO's where the majority isn't. Whats the name of that game with the most players again?

Friday - 6.30 EST - 245 players

Originally posted by xDayx

I personally tend to play the MMO's where the majority isn't. Whats the name of that game with the most players again?

Such a rebel, you play by your own rules!

Originally posted by xDayx

I personally tend to play the MMO's where the majority isn't. Whats the name of that game with the most players again?

I personally tend to only eat grass while other people are eating pizza. I'm pretty hard core and 3dgy too.

Originally posted by Callidor

Originally posted by Starpower

Wednsday - Last count for the day when the server is at its peak

Wednsdays count ends with 309 people online at 9.30 pm EST (US)

 

Good news about that is, it's a moderate increase compared to 6 months ago where there would only be 200~ people on at this hour on a weekday. It will be more interesting to see the Saturday population where Vanguard is at it peak throughout the week

OCD much? Youve really been goin on and on about this numbers argument.

Butthurt much?

I have to admit, I've seen you posting around and generally your negative attitude bums me out - but I've realised you're only trying to point out the facts. I returned to Vanguard a few weeks ago (haven't played since '08) and despite the population being as low as it is, I haven't had trouble finding groups at all - granted I'm only lvl 26 atm, but I've got groups together for Riftseeker's Torrent, Khegor's End, Hunter's League quest-line and more recently Trengal keep with very little trouble, just need to put a little affort in and communicate with those who are online.

I returned because of the F2P announcement but I've sinced realised the low population doesn't bother me, even if there are only 200 people on at a given time - it's not as if you need 100 people to form a group and have fun, surely 5 people in that bunch will be keen to run a dungeon or help on a quest. 'least that's what I've found. (it also helps being in a guild ofc)

My advice to people is just think, 200 doesn't sound like much - but it's plenty enough players to enjoy the content that makes Vanguard great, the group content. (just have patience and put in a little effort to get groups rolling)

Originally posted by F2Pelerin118

I have to admit, I've seen you posting around and generally your negative attitude bums me out - but I've realised you're only trying to point out the facts. I returned to Vanguard a few weeks ago (haven't played since '08) and despite the population being as low as it is, I haven't had trouble finding groups at all - granted I'm only lvl 26 atm, but I've got groups together for Riftseeker's Torrent, Khegor's End, Hunter's League quest-line and more recently Trengal keep with very little trouble, just need to put a little affort in and communicate with those who are online.

I returned because of the F2P announcement but I've sinced realised the low population doesn't bother me, even if there are only 200 people on at a given time - it's not as if you need 100 people to form a group and have fun, surely 5 people in that bunch will be keen to run a dungeon or help on a quest. 'least that's what I've found. (it also helps being in a guild ofc)

My advice to people is just think, 200 doesn't sound like much - but it's plenty enough players to enjoy the content that makes Vanguard great, the group content. (just have patience and put in a little effort to get groups rolling)

To expand on this

The game is just as populated between 1 - 20 as it is from 51 - 55. If people want to group then befriend people on IoD who has an interest in subscribing and do some adventuring. Finding people that play regularly and sticking to them is not as hard as it seems. I've managed to successfully do this on several occations.

Despite the population it's still quite possible to get regular groups. Just don't expect to find them using the LFG tool or by writing in the general channel. It can happen but chances are you are going to waste hours doing so and still not get any results

Another good way is to look where the action is at, starting at skrillen point/skrawla rock for the HL quest. Befriend people doing that quest line

I'm curious what the server averages are for other games. What's the average number on an EQ2 server or Rift server or LOTRO server. Without that info the OP  is just out of context data.

Originally posted by Ribas363
Come on now starpower....the population on telon was consistently over your 309 Max Friday night from 10pm-1am est. I know you checked. I'm waiting to see what numbers you post. I checked multiple times myself.

I was asleep lol

The interesting numbers are tonight. Saturday is the day where VG is at its highest. I will check at 10pm instead tonight. I personally hope for a number above 500. Anything below and It's just going to show there's zero change in numbers over the last couple of years, and that the news of going F2P and returning developers has had no effect on the population as of now

I'll check once at 10pm EST. If you aren't doing anything then take a count around 12 - 1am and post a screenie. That way it's covered completely