Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Puremallace

 

Wow, some ppl sure don't understand when it stops being a game. This guy deserves a hospital ticket. Anyone that doesn't see the line here that was crossed, might want to get psychologically tested :/

Except the article was blown out of proportion, had factually FALSE statements and was not accurate at all. The link also no longer works as the person who wrote it made corrections and has said he will issue a public apology.

Hm, I just read the thread on the EVE Online forums. I'm not sure why you say that the Massively reporter is giving an apology? I still see that Mittani douchebag comments in that thread.

Hi, im the leader of a bloodthirsty guild and im dangerous and mean. Ill make your life miserable, in and out of game, but dont worry, it it gets out of hand, and the people up there get really pissed, ill apologize in tears and even give you ingame money as compensation, because as all overgrown high school bullies i have the testosterone levels of an amoeba and i wet myself when i see even a slight chance of consequence to my actions.

Bye, bye, have got to go back to the basement.

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by Liddokun

Originally posted by Baxslash

He won't get perma-banned or, anything like that, he is one of CCP's poster boys for the game. After all intrigue and hype just sells the game more, but, mitti. is acting like a little child who doesn't consider the reaction, or, the responsibilities of his actions.

I'm still waiting for the day when CCP is presented with a huge lawsuit over a player who gets caught in Real Life over scamming people, and, then blames CCP and Eve Online for encouraging the behaviour within the game. After all, people will mimick idealogies if they believe they can get away with it.

 

Eve online sounds like thug / hoodlum training ground.

EVE is the ultimate form of 'free' actually.

It has almost no rules (killing new players / cheating excluded) and lets the players do what they want.

I'd say it is probably closer to 'nature' since there are no 'safety net'. It attracts certain type of MMO players, whether it attracts you personally is another issue. :)

There's no death in eve online so it's absolutely nothing like nature and getting cloned when you die is the ultimate safety net.

Except you lose everything that you had at the time of death.

Only thing you retain are skill points (if your clone is up to date) and in-game gold.

Unless there is an MMO that has perma-death system that I don't know about, this is probably the closest.

Ship loss isn't enough of a deterrent to alter a person's behavior, especially those that take part in PvP, since most follow rule #1 of eve online...

If there was perma death those "certain types" wouldn't enjoy the game because they'd of been put to death never to offend again.  It's because this game is so alien to nature that they can exist and even flourish.

Originally posted by freston

Hi, im the leader of a bloodthirsty guild and im dangerous and mean. Ill make your life miserable, in and out of game, but dont worry, it it gets out of hand, and the people up there get really pissed, ill apologize in tears and even give you ingame money as compensation, because as all overgrown high school bullies i have the testosterone levels of an amoeba and i wet myself when i see even a slight chance of consequence to my actions.

Bye, bye, have got to go back to the basement.

....and plot my vengence, so I can return in glorious triumph after hainv been so wrongeed by the system. I will re affirm my dominance and plan to exploit this situation to maximize the spotlight on myself by ruining the online experience of everyone else playing in MY game!

Originally posted by jpnz

As the media-frenzy-factually-inaccurate-storm passes we are left with something that was not expected.

A public apology by the 'journalist' that first mentioned the 'cyber bullying' word and created this mess.

http://soundcloud.com/aryndelvyst/the-mittani-vs-brendan-drain

 

Factually wrong statements were

The Mittani mentioned the 'sucidal player's real life name'. - FALSE

The Mittani's personal blog is http://www.kugutsumen.com/ - FALSE

What The Mittani did was 'cyber bullying' - FALSE

 

When the person who 'broke' the story comes out and does a 180 turn TEN SECONDS into the interview, you know something's not as it seemed initially.

Last I checked, Massively has an office in UK which has some draconian libel laws... >.>

So he didn't identify the player, tell people he's suicidal, and then encourage others to harrass him online?

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by jpnz

As the media-frenzy-factually-inaccurate-storm passes we are left with something that was not expected.

A public apology by the 'journalist' that first mentioned the 'cyber bullying' word and created this mess.

http://soundcloud.com/aryndelvyst/the-mittani-vs-brendan-drain

 

Factually wrong statements were

The Mittani mentioned the 'sucidal player's real life name'. - FALSE

The Mittani's personal blog is http://www.kugutsumen.com/ - FALSE

What The Mittani did was 'cyber bullying' - FALSE

 

When the person who 'broke' the story comes out and does a 180 turn TEN SECONDS into the interview, you know something's not as it seemed initially.

Last I checked, Massively has an office in UK which has some draconian libel laws... >.>

So he didn't identify the player, tell people he's suicidal, and then encourage others to harrass him online?

Not sure what this post is about.

He identified the player's TOON name; 'The Wiz', showed the people at Fanfest the mail that was sent to him by 'The Wiz' and asked the players to go and harrass him.

Unless US/UK legal definition of 'cyber bullying' changed the past few months, what 'The Mittani' did is not 'cyber bullying'.

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by jpnz

As the media-frenzy-factually-inaccurate-storm passes we are left with something that was not expected.

A public apology by the 'journalist' that first mentioned the 'cyber bullying' word and created this mess.

http://soundcloud.com/aryndelvyst/the-mittani-vs-brendan-drain

 

Factually wrong statements were

The Mittani mentioned the 'sucidal player's real life name'. - FALSE

The Mittani's personal blog is http://www.kugutsumen.com/ - FALSE

What The Mittani did was 'cyber bullying' - FALSE

 

When the person who 'broke' the story comes out and does a 180 turn TEN SECONDS into the interview, you know something's not as it seemed initially.

Last I checked, Massively has an office in UK which has some draconian libel laws... >.>

So he didn't identify the player, tell people he's suicidal, and then encourage others to harrass him online?

Not sure what this post is about.

He identified the player's TOON name; 'The Wiz', showed the people at Fanfest and on the internet streamed live over the free and HD EVETV  the mail that was sent to him by 'The Wiz' and asked the players to go and harrass him online.

Unless US/UK legal definition of 'cyber bullying' changed the past few months, what 'The Mittani' did is not 'cyber bullying'.

The term cyber bully was coined by a man named Bill Belsey and lucky for us, not only did he coin the phrase, but he supplied us with the definition too...

I fixed what you typed above to properly reflect the situation and color coded it so that it'll be easier to understand.

"Cyberbullying involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behaviour by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others."

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

The term cyber bully was coined by a man named Bill Belsey and lucky for us, not only did he coin the phrase, but he supplied us with the definition too...

I fixed what you typed above to properly reflect the situation and color coded it so that it'll be easier to understand.

"Cyberbullying involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behaviour by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others."

 

Cyber bully doesn't mean what you think it means.

The term was defined / clarified once it came into law in several states.

If anyone wants to know the ongoing story in its full 

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1616-funkybacon-deals-with-mittani-podcast

Yes, the interview has the author of the OP's article along with Mittani.

Yes the author who used 'cyber bully' and cause this media-storm apologies and has made the corrections.

This whole thing taught me to 'like IGN'.

What the......

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

The term cyber bully was coined by a man named Bill Belsey and lucky for us, not only did he coin the phrase, but he supplied us with the definition too...

I fixed what you typed above to properly reflect the situation and color coded it so that it'll be easier to understand.

"Cyberbullying involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behaviour by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others."

 

Cyber bully doesn't mean what you think it means.

The term was defined / clarified once it came into law in several states.

 

If anyone wants to know the ongoing story in its full 

http://www.eve-radio.com/news-compendium/eve-radio/1616-funkybacon-deals-with-mittani-podcast

Yes, the interview has the author of the OP's article along with Mittani.

Yes the author who used 'cyber bully' and cause this media-storm apologies and has made the corrections.

 

This whole thing taught me to 'like IGN'.

What the......

That's the definition of the term defined by the guy that invented the term.

The term was used correctly in the article and if it was allowed to snowball into what that drunken fellow wanted it would of met the legal definition as well.  Lucky for us he stood alone on the issue and everyone, including the author of the article, saw that a line had been crossed and the offender changed his tune from his drunken presentation to a not so drunken but stupidly defiant Larry Flynt type "deal with it" to a complete and total reversal as he separated himself early from what could of been a violation of the law if any one took him up on his offer to go after that fellow.

It was not so much his actions that dictated whether or not cyberbully laws applied but other people's lack of action in that direction that gave him enough time to come to his senses and distance the real him from his idiot ingame persona.

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

That's the definition of the term defined by the guy that invented the term.

The term was used correctly in the article and if it was allowed to snowball into what that drunken fellow wanted it would of met the legal definition as well.  Lucky for us he stood alone on the issue and everyone, including the author of the article, saw that a line had been crossed and the offender changed his tune from his drunken presentation to a not so drunken but stupidly defiant Larry Flynt type "deal with it" to a complete and total reversal as he separated himself early from what could of been a violation of the law if any one took him up on his offer to go after that fellow.

It was not so much his actions that dictated whether or not cyberbully laws applied but other people's lack of action in that direction that gave him enough time to come to his senses and distance the real him from his idiot ingame persona.

Meh, you can believe what you want. This is the internet afterall.

Anyone reading this thread that wants factual stuff can read up from better sources than two 'internet posters' anyway.

What is important though is that the OP's article's author has accepted that he got it wrong.

It'll be interesting to see which site is more interested in factual news and get it right after their 'source' of this turns out to be false.

All news site's with the 'cyber bully' sensationalist crap cites the Massively article as its source.

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

That's the definition of the term defined by the guy that invented the term.

The term was used correctly in the article and if it was allowed to snowball into what that drunken fellow wanted it would of met the legal definition as well.  Lucky for us he stood alone on the issue and everyone, including the author of the article, saw that a line had been crossed and the offender changed his tune from his drunken presentation to a not so drunken but stupidly defiant Larry Flynt type "deal with it" to a complete and total reversal as he separated himself early from what could of been a violation of the law if any one took him up on his offer to go after that fellow.

It was not so much his actions that dictated whether or not cyberbully laws applied but other people's lack of action in that direction that gave him enough time to come to his senses and distance the real him from his idiot ingame persona.

Meh, you can believe what you want. This is the internet afterall.

Anyone reading this thread that wants factual stuff can read up from better sources than two 'internet posters' anyway.

What is important though is that the OP's article's author has accepted that he got it wrong.

It'll be interesting to see which site is more interested in factual news and get it right after their 'source' of this turns out to be false.

All news site's with the 'cyber bully' sensationalist crap cites the Massively article as its source.

Just because nobody did what the drunk dude wanted doesn't mean the term cyberbully wasn't the right term and it would seem that since he's the only one that wanted to harm the other fellow over this video game it's not cyberbullying by law just like it's not inciting a riot by law if you can't get other people to riot with you it's just disturbing the peace or vandalism, but it's still inciting a riot because that's what you're trying to do and it's still cyberbullying because that's what he tried to do - just everyone had more sense and nobody took him up on his offer to harrass that other player.

I have no idea why the journalist folded but he shouldn't of because the application of the word cyber bully was apt in the context of the article and it's a good thing not everyone takes this video game as seriously as others, because to at least one person this spaceship video game is really serious business!

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

That's the definition of the term defined by the guy that invented the term.

The term was used correctly in the article and if it was allowed to snowball into what that drunken fellow wanted it would of met the legal definition as well.  Lucky for us he stood alone on the issue and everyone, including the author of the article, saw that a line had been crossed and the offender changed his tune from his drunken presentation to a not so drunken but stupidly defiant Larry Flynt type "deal with it" to a complete and total reversal as he separated himself early from what could of been a violation of the law if any one took him up on his offer to go after that fellow.

It was not so much his actions that dictated whether or not cyberbully laws applied but other people's lack of action in that direction that gave him enough time to come to his senses and distance the real him from his idiot ingame persona.

Meh, you can believe what you want. This is the internet afterall.

Anyone reading this thread that wants factual stuff can read up from better sources than two 'internet posters' anyway.

What is important though is that the OP's article's author has accepted that he got it wrong.

It'll be interesting to see which site is more interested in factual news and get it right after their 'source' of this turns out to be false.

All news site's with the 'cyber bully' sensationalist crap cites the Massively article as its source.

Just because nobody did what the drunk dude wanted doesn't mean the term cyberbully wasn't the right term and it would seem that since he's the only one that wanted to harm the other fellow over this video game it's not cyberbullying by law just like it's not inciting a riot by law if you can't get other people to riot with you it's just disturbing the peace or vandalism, but it's still inciting a riot because that's what you're trying to do and it's still cyberbullying because that's what he tried to do - just everyone had more sense and nobody took him up on his offer to harrass that other player.

I have no idea why the journalist folded but he shouldn't of because the application of the word cyber bully was apt in the context of the article and it's a good thing not everyone takes this video game as seriously as others, because to at least one person this spaceship video game is really serious business!

The journalist on massively 'folded' and apologized to mittani on EVE-Radio to have overstepped by calling it cyber bullying. Cyber bullying is just the sensationalist gaming journalists new buzzword that they throw to left and right without even checking their sources.

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

That's the definition of the term defined by the guy that invented the term.

The term was used correctly in the article and if it was allowed to snowball into what that drunken fellow wanted it would of met the legal definition as well.  Lucky for us he stood alone on the issue and everyone, including the author of the article, saw that a line had been crossed and the offender changed his tune from his drunken presentation to a not so drunken but stupidly defiant Larry Flynt type "deal with it" to a complete and total reversal as he separated himself early from what could of been a violation of the law if any one took him up on his offer to go after that fellow.

It was not so much his actions that dictated whether or not cyberbully laws applied but other people's lack of action in that direction that gave him enough time to come to his senses and distance the real him from his idiot ingame persona.

Meh, you can believe what you want. This is the internet afterall.

Anyone reading this thread that wants factual stuff can read up from better sources than two 'internet posters' anyway.

What is important though is that the OP's article's author has accepted that he got it wrong.

It'll be interesting to see which site is more interested in factual news and get it right after their 'source' of this turns out to be false.

All news site's with the 'cyber bully' sensationalist crap cites the Massively article as its source.

Just because nobody did what the drunk dude wanted doesn't mean the term cyberbully wasn't the right term and it would seem that since he's the only one that wanted to harm the other fellow over this video game it's not cyberbullying by law just like it's not inciting a riot by law if you can't get other people to riot with you it's just disturbing the peace or vandalism, but it's still inciting a riot because that's what you're trying to do and it's still cyberbullying because that's what he tried to do - just everyone had more sense and nobody took him up on his offer to harrass that other player.

I have no idea why the journalist folded but he shouldn't of because the application of the word cyber bully was apt in the context of the article and it's a good thing not everyone takes this video game as seriously as others, because to at least one person this spaceship video game is really serious business!

The journalist on massively 'folded' and apologized to mittani on EVE-Radio to have overstepped by calling it cyber bullying. Cyber bullying is just the sensationalist gaming journalists new buzzword that they throw to left and right without even checking their sources.

As I said above (scroll up and read it), he shouldn't of folded for the reasons I gave above (scroll up and read it).

Cyberbullying is defined above (scroll up and read it) and the reason why it applies in this case is also discussed above (scroll up and read it).

Most of it was even colour coded by me for the reading challenged so I'm not sure how you could of missed it.

Here's how you scroll:  You click the small bar on the right with your mouse and drag it in the direction you want to scroll (in your case it would be up) or you can use the wheel on your mouse if your mouse has one (in most cases you'd roll the mouse wheel forward to scroll up unless you've changed your mouse settings)

Please follow my instructions and scroll up now.

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by jpnz

Originally posted by SlaverHound

 

That's the definition of the term defined by the guy that invented the term.

The term was used correctly in the article and if it was allowed to snowball into what that drunken fellow wanted it would of met the legal definition as well.  Lucky for us he stood alone on the issue and everyone, including the author of the article, saw that a line had been crossed and the offender changed his tune from his drunken presentation to a not so drunken but stupidly defiant Larry Flynt type "deal with it" to a complete and total reversal as he separated himself early from what could of been a violation of the law if any one took him up on his offer to go after that fellow.

It was not so much his actions that dictated whether or not cyberbully laws applied but other people's lack of action in that direction that gave him enough time to come to his senses and distance the real him from his idiot ingame persona.

Meh, you can believe what you want. This is the internet afterall.

Anyone reading this thread that wants factual stuff can read up from better sources than two 'internet posters' anyway.

What is important though is that the OP's article's author has accepted that he got it wrong.

It'll be interesting to see which site is more interested in factual news and get it right after their 'source' of this turns out to be false.

All news site's with the 'cyber bully' sensationalist crap cites the Massively article as its source.

Just because nobody did what the drunk dude wanted doesn't mean the term cyberbully wasn't the right term and it would seem that since he's the only one that wanted to harm the other fellow over this video game it's not cyberbullying by law just like it's not inciting a riot by law if you can't get other people to riot with you it's just disturbing the peace or vandalism, but it's still inciting a riot because that's what you're trying to do and it's still cyberbullying because that's what he tried to do - just everyone had more sense and nobody took him up on his offer to harrass that other player.

I have no idea why the journalist folded but he shouldn't of because the application of the word cyber bully was apt in the context of the article and it's a good thing not everyone takes this video game as seriously as others, because to at least one person this spaceship video game is really serious business!

The journalist on massively 'folded' and apologized to mittani on EVE-Radio to have overstepped by calling it cyber bullying. Cyber bullying is just the sensationalist gaming journalists new buzzword that they throw to left and right without even checking their sources.

As I said above (scroll up and read it), he shouldn't of folded for the reasons I gave above (scroll up and read it).

Cyberbullying is defined above (scroll up and read it) and the reason why it applies in this case is also discussed above (scroll up and read it).

Most of it was even colour coded by me for the reading challenged so I'm not sure how you could of missed it.

Here's how you scroll:  You click the small bar on the right with your mouse and drag it in the direction you want to scroll (in your case it would be up) or you can use the wheel on your mouse if your mouse has one (in most cases you'd roll the mouse wheel forward to scroll up unless you've changed your mouse settings)

Please follow my instructions and scroll up now.

Before trying to educate others I suggest you try to read that quote again a few times. And please take note of the word "repeated", the only reason people jumped the bandwaggon and started screaming about this like a bunch of dramaqueens is because Mittani said the guys name later on during the presentation which he already stated was a slip of tongue while being drunk which he apologized for and got his punishment for. This is by no means cyberbullying.

The game itself fits within the frames of cyberbullying as wardeccing and killing your enemies then taunting them could be seen as cyberbullying. People are growing way way way too soft these days, lets make all games about ponies and rainbows. I've had people talk shit to me and what do I do? I take CCPs advice and HTFU (yes exactly, Harden the fuck up).

Encouraging other people in real life to push a potentially suicidal person over the edge by using an online arena is cyberbullying and that is what 'dear leader' attempted to do.

The only reason why the laws of cyberbullying weren't broken is because nobody took him up on the offer.  It was their inaction to follow 'dear leader' that prevented the law from triggering not any of 'dear leaders' actions because he tried his very best to lead people to harm another person and therefor it's justified to call him a cyberbully whether any incidents took place or not.

Do you understand this?  It wasn't due to him that an instance of cyberbullying didn't take place it was because everyone else was far too adult to follow his lead or even allow it to start in the first place after all, it's just a video game...

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Encouraging other people in real life to push a potentially suicidal person over the edge by using an online arena is cyberbullying and that is what 'dear leader' attempted to do.

The only reason why the laws of cyberbullying weren't broken is because nobody took him up on the offer.  It was their inaction to follow 'dear leader' that prevented the law from triggering not his any of 'dear leaders' actions because he tried his very best to lead people to harm another person and therefor it's justified to call him a cyberbully whether any incidents took place or not.

Do you understand this?  It wasn't due to him that an instance of cyberbullying didn't take place it was because everyone else was far too adult to follow his lead or even allow it to start in the first place after all, it's just a video game...

The Mittani was drunk and said his name at one unplanned part during QA which didn't follow his manus. Red text is enough to say case closed. He apologized and said he was wrong but he also said it wasn't cyberbullying and the journalist agreed and edited his articles and told the other part at Massively to do the same, you on the otherhand Mr. e-lawyer are just spouting your definitions and quotes and tries to persuade everyone it was. Just another Mittani/'dear leader'/GSF/SA hater I would assume at this point.

Also it's funny how everyone is stating that Mittani is such a horrible person but few says anything about the stalkers Mittani got  stating they are going to rape his wife or kill his dog. This world is so filled with hypocrits and dramaqueens it's sickening.

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Encouraging other people in real life to push a potentially suicidal person over the edge by using an online arena is cyberbullying and that is what 'dear leader' attempted to do.

The only reason why the laws of cyberbullying weren't broken is because nobody took him up on the offer.  It was their inaction to follow 'dear leader' that prevented the law from triggering not his any of 'dear leaders' actions because he tried his very best to lead people to harm another person and therefor it's justified to call him a cyberbully whether any incidents took place or not.

Do you understand this?  It wasn't due to him that an instance of cyberbullying didn't take place it was because everyone else was far too adult to follow his lead or even allow it to start in the first place after all, it's just a video game...

The Mittani was drunk and said his name at one unplanned part during QA which didn't follow his manus. Red text is enough to say case closed. He apologized and said he was wrong but he also said it wasn't cyberbullying and the journalist agreed and edited his articles and told the other part at Massively to do the same, you on the otherhand Mr. e-lawyer are just spouting your definitions and quotes and tries to persuade everyone it was. Just another Mittani/'dear leader'/GSF/SA hater I would assume at this point.

Also it's funny how everyone is stating that Mittani is such a horrible person but few says anything about the stalkers Mittani got  stating they are going to rape his wife or kill his dog. This world is so filled with hypocrits and dramaqueens it's sickening.

Although the law doesn't apply the term cyberbullying still applies as I pointed out above several times at this point for the reasons that I've already given several times above...  So once again - scroll up.

Saying what he did over something as frivolous as a video game should be unthinkable to a human being drunk or not.  I'll say it again for good measure "it should be unthinkable drunk or not", because this is just a simple silly little game played for fun.  It's not real life.  I'll say that again for good measure IT'S NOT REAL LIFE!  Do you got that so that we can move forward?

Can you understand that?  Can you fathom why saying something as stupid as he did would make people's eyebrows more than raise a little?  Here again I think I'll throw in another "it's just a video game - it's not real life"

And once more just so it'll sink in for you "it's not real life, it's just a video game" and there's not to be any confusion whatsoever on a person's behavior when they're walking around in r/l drunk or not.  What he said was unacceptable for a person to say about another person nevermind the fact that its over video game drama - that just makes it even more egregious.

Again, it's unfathomable to me that a person would even think that let alone say it out loud over something as petty as video game drama whether they were drunk or not.  It's just a video game - it's not real life...

This thread topic didn't cover his stalkers, but if what you say is true, then those people need to seek mental help.

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Encouraging other people in real life to push a potentially suicidal person over the edge by using an online arena is cyberbullying and that is what 'dear leader' attempted to do.

The only reason why the laws of cyberbullying weren't broken is because nobody took him up on the offer.  It was their inaction to follow 'dear leader' that prevented the law from triggering not his any of 'dear leaders' actions because he tried his very best to lead people to harm another person and therefor it's justified to call him a cyberbully whether any incidents took place or not.

Do you understand this?  It wasn't due to him that an instance of cyberbullying didn't take place it was because everyone else was far too adult to follow his lead or even allow it to start in the first place after all, it's just a video game...

The Mittani was drunk and said his name at one unplanned part during QA which didn't follow his manus. Red text is enough to say case closed. He apologized and said he was wrong but he also said it wasn't cyberbullying and the journalist agreed and edited his articles and told the other part at Massively to do the same, you on the otherhand Mr. e-lawyer are just spouting your definitions and quotes and tries to persuade everyone it was. Just another Mittani/'dear leader'/GSF/SA hater I would assume at this point.

Also it's funny how everyone is stating that Mittani is such a horrible person but few says anything about the stalkers Mittani got  stating they are going to rape his wife or kill his dog. This world is so filled with hypocrits and dramaqueens it's sickening.

Although the law doesn't apply the term cyberbullying still applies as I pointed out above several times at this point for the reasons that I've already given several times above...  So once again - scroll up.

Saying what he did over something as frivolous as a video game should be unthinkable to a human being drunk or not.  I'll say it again for good measure "it should be unthinkable drunk or not", because this is just a simple silly little game played for fun.  It's not real life.  I'll say that again for good measure IT'S NOT REAL LIFE!  Do you got that so that we can move forward?

Can you understand that?  Can you fathom why saying something as stupid as he did would make people's eyebrows more than raise a little?  Here again I think I'll throw in another "it's just a video game - it's not real life"

And once more just so it'll sink in for you "it's not real life, it's just a video game" and there's not to be any confusion whatsoever on a person's behavior when they're walking around in r/l drunk or not.  What he said was unacceptable for a person to say about another person nevermind the fact that its over video game drama - that just makes it even more egregious.

Again, it's unfathomable to me that a person would even think that let alone say it out loud over something as petty as video game drama whether they were drunk or not.  It's just a video game - it's not real life...

This thread topic didn't cover his stalkers, but if what you say is true, then those people need to seek mental help.

If it wasn't cyberbullying it wasn't cyberbullying. As simple as that, game or not. I've done stupid shit while drunk and I would assume most people can say the same. I really don't get what kind of point you are trying to make since everyone else thinks it was sensationalism including Brendan.

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Encouraging other people in real life to push a potentially suicidal person over the edge by using an online arena is cyberbullying and that is what 'dear leader' attempted to do.

The only reason why the laws of cyberbullying weren't broken is because nobody took him up on the offer.  It was their inaction to follow 'dear leader' that prevented the law from triggering not his any of 'dear leaders' actions because he tried his very best to lead people to harm another person and therefor it's justified to call him a cyberbully whether any incidents took place or not.

Do you understand this?  It wasn't due to him that an instance of cyberbullying didn't take place it was because everyone else was far too adult to follow his lead or even allow it to start in the first place after all, it's just a video game...

The Mittani was drunk and said his name at one unplanned part during QA which didn't follow his manus. Red text is enough to say case closed. He apologized and said he was wrong but he also said it wasn't cyberbullying and the journalist agreed and edited his articles and told the other part at Massively to do the same, you on the otherhand Mr. e-lawyer are just spouting your definitions and quotes and tries to persuade everyone it was. Just another Mittani/'dear leader'/GSF/SA hater I would assume at this point.

Also it's funny how everyone is stating that Mittani is such a horrible person but few says anything about the stalkers Mittani got  stating they are going to rape his wife or kill his dog. This world is so filled with hypocrits and dramaqueens it's sickening.

Although the law doesn't apply the term cyberbullying still applies as I pointed out above several times at this point for the reasons that I've already given several times above...  So once again - scroll up.

Saying what he did over something as frivolous as a video game should be unthinkable to a human being drunk or not.  I'll say it again for good measure "it should be unthinkable drunk or not", because this is just a simple silly little game played for fun.  It's not real life.  I'll say that again for good measure IT'S NOT REAL LIFE!  Do you got that so that we can move forward?

Can you understand that?  Can you fathom why saying something as stupid as he did would make people's eyebrows more than raise a little?  Here again I think I'll throw in another "it's just a video game - it's not real life"

And once more just so it'll sink in for you "it's not real life, it's just a video game" and there's not to be any confusion whatsoever on a person's behavior when they're walking around in r/l drunk or not.  What he said was unacceptable for a person to say about another person nevermind the fact that its over video game drama - that just makes it even more egregious.

Again, it's unfathomable to me that a person would even think that let alone say it out loud over something as petty as video game drama whether they were drunk or not.  It's just a video game - it's not real life...

This thread topic didn't cover his stalkers, but if what you say is true, then those people need to seek mental help.

If it wasn't cyberbullying it wasn't cyberbullying. As simple as that, game or not. I've done stupid shit while drunk and I would assume most people can say the same. I really don't get what kind of point you are trying to make since everyone else thinks it was sensationalism including Brendan.

In the same way that, although you are shouting "let's burn the mother down" and trying your best to get other people to riot with you, it's not legally inciting a riot until you get 10 people to join you - but it can be said that you're inciting a riot at 8 people...

It's not legally cyberbullying because he couldn't get other people to harrass the player but he made an effort and for that effort he wins the title of cyberbully.

there's doing stupid shit and then there's doing something alien to the human race while you're drunk and inviting people to harrass online a potencially sucidal person over video game drama is just one of those things.

Actually, Massively took it down because of their code of conduct not to call people names and not because the use of the term "cyberbully" was wrong - go read it for yourself over on that website.

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by SlaverHound

Encouraging other people in real life to push a potentially suicidal person over the edge by using an online arena is cyberbullying and that is what 'dear leader' attempted to do.

The only reason why the laws of cyberbullying weren't broken is because nobody took him up on the offer.  It was their inaction to follow 'dear leader' that prevented the law from triggering not his any of 'dear leaders' actions because he tried his very best to lead people to harm another person and therefor it's justified to call him a cyberbully whether any incidents took place or not.

Do you understand this?  It wasn't due to him that an instance of cyberbullying didn't take place it was because everyone else was far too adult to follow his lead or even allow it to start in the first place after all, it's just a video game...

The Mittani was drunk and said his name at one unplanned part during QA which didn't follow his manus. Red text is enough to say case closed. He apologized and said he was wrong but he also said it wasn't cyberbullying and the journalist agreed and edited his articles and told the other part at Massively to do the same, you on the otherhand Mr. e-lawyer are just spouting your definitions and quotes and tries to persuade everyone it was. Just another Mittani/'dear leader'/GSF/SA hater I would assume at this point.

Also it's funny how everyone is stating that Mittani is such a horrible person but few says anything about the stalkers Mittani got  stating they are going to rape his wife or kill his dog. This world is so filled with hypocrits and dramaqueens it's sickening.

Although the law doesn't apply the term cyberbullying still applies as I pointed out above several times at this point for the reasons that I've already given several times above...  So once again - scroll up.

Saying what he did over something as frivolous as a video game should be unthinkable to a human being drunk or not.  I'll say it again for good measure "it should be unthinkable drunk or not", because this is just a simple silly little game played for fun.  It's not real life.  I'll say that again for good measure IT'S NOT REAL LIFE!  Do you got that so that we can move forward?

Can you understand that?  Can you fathom why saying something as stupid as he did would make people's eyebrows more than raise a little?  Here again I think I'll throw in another "it's just a video game - it's not real life"

And once more just so it'll sink in for you "it's not real life, it's just a video game" and there's not to be any confusion whatsoever on a person's behavior when they're walking around in r/l drunk or not.  What he said was unacceptable for a person to say about another person nevermind the fact that its over video game drama - that just makes it even more egregious.

Again, it's unfathomable to me that a person would even think that let alone say it out loud over something as petty as video game drama whether they were drunk or not.  It's just a video game - it's not real life...

This thread topic didn't cover his stalkers, but if what you say is true, then those people need to seek mental help.

If it wasn't cyberbullying it wasn't cyberbullying. As simple as that, game or not. I've done stupid shit while drunk and I would assume most people can say the same. I really don't get what kind of point you are trying to make since everyone else thinks it was sensationalism including Brendan.

In the same way that, although you are shouting "let's burn the mother down" and trying your best to get other people to riot with you, it's not legally inciting a riot until you get 10 people to join you - but it can be said that you're inciting a riot at 8 people...

It's not legally cyberbullying because he couldn't get other people to harrass the player but he made an effort and for that effort he wins the title of cyberbully.

there's doing stupid shit and then there's doing something alien to the human race while you're drunk and inviting people to harrass online a potencially sucidal person over video game drama is just one of those things.

Actually, Massively took it down because of their code of conduct not to call people names and not because the use of the term "cyberbully" was wrong - go read it for yourself over on that website.

 

I'm too tired to respond to your whole post right now but about Massively, the guy who wrote the article. The author himself SAID on EVE Radio how he agreed that it was sensationalism and that he apologized for calling Mittani a cyberbully. That should be proof enough, most other sites just listed Massively as their source without actually doing any research which is true failure by any type of journalist, even a wannabe gaming journalist.

You are responisble for your own actions, not the actions of others. Mittani didn't force anyone or really even attempt to get a mob going.