Good thing to remember too is that sometimes, it happens. You run into a gate-camp, or close enough to get caught, or don't pay enough attention to local or something else, and you lose a ship. Protecting yourself in EVE is never an absolute, and that's why I find it fun.

I don't pirate, but every time I make it from the deep North back to Empire without getting hit by a superior force, or manage to evade such a force, I have fun. I don't have fun when I get caught, but then again, losing at poker probably isn't too much fun either.

That said, going 'all in' every hand means you usually go broke really fast. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, and it gets a lot easier to bounce back from taking a loss.

true, so true:)

Sad but true I have to admit.

I dont know why thats happening but I think that some ppl just cant play If they dont menchen my nation, my mother, sister and other closer relatives. To bad there is no option mute local, so i dont have to see what ppl write sometimes.

the only time i have EVER lost a ship is when I took my eyes off the situation. and was alone. both bad no-no's. am i a carebear, no. am i a pirate,once again no. do i enjoy PvP, yes i do. the ONLY thing i dislike about the PvP scene is when someone decides to take the situation into a degrading smack talk session. The corp that i Belong too does not greif noobs, but we will smack them around if we find them in low sec, then we let them go and send them on their way letting them know what we did was only an educational lesson. now if you are 5-6 months old and in low sec, we consider you fair game for suprise PvP. does that make us bad, nah we are a diverse corp, mostly U.S. based we have a Photographer, professional students,Truck drivers, Military personal, and Goverment Employee's. in RL we ae all normal well adjusted people, we play EvE as a team and when we do we are able to go about our ways with little fear that we will be Ganked/suicided/griefed. does that mean we are invincible?no, it means we play with our eyes open and minimize our risk. EvE is a GAME, its meant to be FUN for all involved, if it's not fun to you then its not for you. just because you are not having fun getting blown up doesnt mean i am not having fun blowing you up.

Ive never played eve but Ive been browsing the forums here laughing at this stuff and thought I'd comment. Yes I can see the tough guys on this game like to gank noobs and "carebears" all the time because they are bored. If they had not have been playing the game so long though and reached a point where they could not be beaten by new players, ever, they wouldnt be doing it, simple as that. If there was a reasonable chance that they themselves could get killed as well they would go back into whatever other area of space and hide with their boyhood tucked between their legs. That is why I would never play this idiotic sounding game. If there is no real chance that you can catch up with the morons who are trying to ruin your game and ruin their game, then that is not what I call "sandbox".

The only do it because there are game mechaincs that allow them to do it at little risk to themselves and big risk to the other person...or they just use their pocket book to hit your pocketbook and because theres is bigger they win. I believe an adequate term for such a person would be "punk" "bish" or "sissy" or any combination of the three.

Its too bad too because I love the sound of having that freedom....but seems like its freedom that is at the mercy of 30 something year old virgins who have played the games for years. Yeah sounds like a lot of fun.

A good read :)

Saibot. nice try.

while you do make it seem as though you are trying to be unbiased at first your post completely negates that. You Quite obviously already  know what you think even though you say you have never tried eve. You formed your opinion entirely based on what others have said... In other words you let someone  else tell you how to believe...

though if I had to guess I'de say your a flamebait alt.

This is nothing.

Want to see whine, go to the EVE-O forums.

Carebears whining

Cryrats whining

Griefers whining

Campers whining

Corps whining

Lots of posts whining about whiners

Everyone wants the game mechanics nerfed in their favor

Not even a bit of useful info anywhere at anytime there.  Except for an aformation that the annonimity of the internet brings out the worst in people.

That said, I love the game enough to have three accounts.

A miner with a PVP Hulk.  (surprise loser)

A complex runner with a PVP fitting.  (time to die, gank boy)

And a low sec delivery boy for hire running a  cloaked nano ship. ( Hi campers, going to jump now.  Buh bye)

EVE rewards those who think outside the box.  So as you can imagine, not many players are rewarded.  For some reason the 'entitled generation' seem to think that instead of adapting to the game, the game should adapt to them.

Thus I LOL at most of the posters in this thread.  Whether  Carebear or Ganker all are right in character.  Sheep following sheep.   No solutions offered.  Only attacks and whines.

What a treasure is this internet thing

Originally posted by Bahemoth

Saibot. nice try.

 

while you do make it seem as though you are trying to be unbiased at first your post completely negates that. You Quite obviously already  know what you think even though you say you have never tried eve. You formed your opinion entirely based on what others have said... In other words you let someone  else tell you how to believe...

 

though if I had to guess I'de say your a flamebait alt.

lol Your post makes no sense at all. Im trying to be unbiased, I already know what I think, but yet Im letting other people make up my mind? You're all over the place, whereas I was pretty straight to the point. I dont want to play the game because there is no legitimate chance to catch up with the greifers. Simple as that. Nobody that has posted on this subject that has played the game, would deny that is true. Of course Im going to believe it, I dont have to eat a shit sandwich to know that it tastes like shit, Ill take your word on it.

People these days are just becoming less and less coherent and make less and less sense. You cant really address or approach refuting the point of the post, which is that the reason people are dicks is because they dont have anything to risk. Like I said if there was a legit chance they could get owned they would change their tune. Interacting in a mechanic that encourages that type of cowardice does not sound fun in the slightest, I dont have to play the game to know that because even the ones that do it would admit it.

Originally posted by Saxondragon

I have to concur.  I am a returning EVE player, having been Ganked three years ago and lost everthing I had to a griefer.   Weeks of work and effort down the drain.

I returned recently in the hopes of finding a good game as I saw the ratings here at MMORPG and they were good.  I had hoped that some of these issues had been resolved.

Once again, got jumped, lost weeks of work.  I cancelled my account and uninstalled the game immediately. 

If I want this type of excitement, then I will stuff $20's coming out of my pockets and take a walk in Central Park at night.

I have to agree that this is a game where sociopaths can have their way with other folks.  If anyone  thinks that this is entertainment, then I most humbly point out that our prisons are full of folks who think the same way.

Can I just say WTF? What does that have to do anything with other players? Had it been an NPC / computer on the other side the outcome wouldve been the same. You took all your stuff and got it destroyed, regardless of whether you self destructed, got shot by a computer character , npc, or player it's still your fault! Yes the game doesn't allow you to be stupid like other games where you can just "run back to your body".. ok so what . that doesn't mean its anyones fault. If i take all my stuff and put it in a ship and goto an asteroid belt and get shot up by the rats everyone would call me stupid, why then when you take all your stuff put it in a ship go get shot up by a player its suddenly the other players fault.

EvEs a great game, even for new players its easy to pick up, just follow the advice of others and ask other people when you need help. There are plenty of corps setup just to help new players.  The games not for everyone, its not like many other games that offer instand gratification.

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You may feel that it contains far too much griefing but i want to know what you mean by griefing.

Being rude? Ignore them or report them if its very rude.

Shooting your ship in low sec space?- read the warning message before entering low or null sec.

can baiting? - your own fault for not using secure containers

Suicide ganking? -btw this does not affect newbs your not worth the hassle

Being honest all forms of greifing fit very well into the game and they all have counters.

The devs stated they wanted to create a cold and harsh universe and they really did well. Compared to AOC which also tried to create a cold harsh world but made it far too easy to be considered harsh.

People cying about getting attacked in a PVP game that's amazing. And calling people names for it that's just sad. So when you play multiplayer shooter games and people shoot you do you insult them with rapist and sadist? Holy shit people get a grip.