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EVE Online Forum » Jita (General) » Possible game for me

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  silverseed71

Novice Member

Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 37

 
OP  1/09/13 12:31:40 PM#1
This is the most awesome looking game I have seen! I was a huge player of WC: Privateer and this is like that game on steroids. My only problem is, I consider myself fairly smart, I have a BS in CS, but I do not have a Rocket Science degree, lol. Holy crap! This game is hard to understand. Is there a good tutorial on youtube? I have dual monitors and can watch and play at the same time, so that's no problem. I would love to sub to this awesome game.
  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
Posts: 12260

Currently playing EVE, SMITE, Project Gorgon, and Combat Arms

1/09/13 12:45:03 PM#2

Here's my two suggestions:

1) Don't try to learn everything at once. Learn about the activity you're most interested in, and as you get more into it, you'll naturally branch out into other areas.

2) Get involved in a corporation or in-game player organization. A good start for that is here.

 

If you really want to dive headfirst into the details, check out the Industrial Sized Knowledgebase.

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  silverseed71

Novice Member

Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 37

 
OP  1/09/13 12:58:15 PM#3
Thank you for your quick reply. When I get off of work today I will do more research. This is like the most beautiful game I have ever played (graphics wise)
  kadepsyson

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/09/13 1:02:22 PM#4

Pretty much my suggestion too - try it.  If you have questions, perhaps try asking people in the game if you'd like.  Not in the Help channel I'd say, but people in maybe your system, or station.  Strike up a conversation, the game can lead to very interesting places when you have a nice web of contacts.

 

Overall, have fun, play the game how you want to play it, do what interests you, and don't be afraid to try something else in it as well.

 

Also here's a flowchart of activities and such WTD

 

Edit: typo fixed to change a channel from one about a supercarrier to one about assistance :P

El Psy Congroo

  Exilor

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/09/10
Posts: 394

Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up, up, adieu...

1/09/13 1:19:54 PM#5
Originally posted by silverseed71
This is the most awesome looking game I have seen! I was a huge player of WC: Privateer and this is like that game on steroids. My only problem is, I consider myself fairly smart, I have a BS in CS, but I do not have a Rocket Science degree, lol. Holy crap! This game is hard to understand. Is there a good tutorial on youtube? I have dual monitors and can watch and play at the same time, so that's no problem. I would love to sub to this awesome game.

If you have dual monitors you could use them both at the same time. This is the only game I've liked to play that way.

  tom_gore

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 1803

1/10/13 12:59:31 AM#6

Two monitors for EVE is crap, since you cannot move all UI elements freely, namely your HUD. And the fact that your ship is usually at the center of the screen, which makes it split on both screens. Now three monitors, on the other hand...

Anyhow, with two monitors, the best way is to run EVE in a fixed window on the other and whatever you like on the other. Most watch movies/TV/porn on the other while playing. EVE is 90% waiting and 10% action. If you are fine with that, it's a great game.

  PKJackCrow

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Joined: 10/07/11
Posts: 232

1/10/13 1:01:52 AM#7

ok real quick

1. do tutorial

2. do advanced tutorial

3. do sisters of eve epic arc

4. find what you like and game on

  zomard100

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/16/11
Posts: 232

1/10/13 1:19:51 AM#8
You have there amazing help channel with many players willing to help. It is easy to learn skills, you buy books  and that is all. It  is easy game to learn, you just need to know what to learn for specific type of ships, for example most of Caldari ships use missiles, rails and for protection shields. You have  certifications and there you can see what you need to learn. I am for long time eve player and i will say now what nobody from eve would ever admit----combat in this game is 3X more easier then in any classic mmorpg. You need more brain and reflexes in wow :). Combat is something like that ---range, type of ammo, knowing  the ship od enemy and fire guns or launchers. Setup of ship is what counts in this game.  Skills youj learn automatic you don't  need to do anything. This game shine in fleet battles where you need strategy (or numbers) to win
  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/10/13 1:24:27 AM#9
Originally posted by tom_gore

Two monitors for EVE is crap, since you cannot move all UI elements freely, namely your HUD. And the fact that your ship is usually at the center of the screen, which makes it split on both screens. Now three monitors, on the other hand...

Anyhow, with two monitors, the best way is to run EVE in a fixed window on the other and whatever you like on the other. Most watch movies/TV/porn on the other while playing. EVE is 90% waiting and 10% action. If you are fine with that, it's a great game.

Actually, EVE is one of the best games I have ever played on two screens at once.  You must not have noticed that the ship can be set to off center using a simple slider in the escape menu's display section.  There is another slider for the same effect, but on avatars in the station.  This is exceptional for dual screens as you can move the ship to the center of one monitor, and put as much of the UI as you want on the other.  Even the shield/armor/hull/capacitor circular UI element can be slid left and right as desired.

 

In other words, everything you wrote about two monitors with regards to EVE is incorrect.

I await your acknowledgement of your mistake and admission that what I have stated is correct.

El Psy Congroo

  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1966

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/10/13 1:34:20 AM#10
Originally posted by tom_gore

Two monitors for EVE is crap, since you cannot move all UI elements freely, namely your HUD. And the fact that your ship is usually at the center of the screen, which makes it split on both screens. Now three monitors, on the other hand...

Anyhow, with two monitors, the best way is to run EVE in a fixed window on the other and whatever you like on the other. Most watch movies/TV/porn on the other while playing. EVE is 90% waiting and 10% action. If you are fine with that, it's a great game.


 

This is a part of the escape menu, the part that shows how everything you wrote is incorrect about EVE.  The top portion of it, titled "In Space Camera Settings" consists of a slider which pans the camera in space left or right depending on which way you slide it.  This has the effect of your ship moving to one monitor or the other in the case of dual screens.  The "Offset Interface With Camera" checkbox makes it so that items that normally would be split in half between the two monitors, would be instead centered with the ship - such as dialog boxes.  That means you won't have to have those UI elements automatically pop up somewhere annoying, instead they'd be centered on one of the two screens as well.

The section below that provides another similar slider that instead of moving a ship, moves the avatar over.

 

Again, I am anxiously awaiting your reply on how anything you wrote is correct in light of the actual in game screenshot and supporting explanation I have provided here.

 

Perhaps you do not possess two monitors, do not play EVE, or even if you have both of those things were unaware of these options, were unaware you could ask other players, ask the EVE forums, ask these forums, or even perhaps were unaware of a website known as Google.

I'll give you the benifit of the doubt while I eagerly anticipate your explanation.

El Psy Congroo

  tom_gore

Novice Member

Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 1803

1/10/13 1:40:34 AM#11

I stand corrected.

Never noticed those in the menu, looks like I've been blind :D

I do have two monitors (though the other is smaller and lower res than the other) and I do play EVE. Have to try this out and see how it works.

 

  Mothanos

Elite Member

Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1850

1/10/13 1:45:03 AM#12

Get into a corperation as soon as posible to get you started.
Most Eve players are rich and can assist you with questions / isk / missions / game mechanics in a heartbeat.

Eve is a dog eat dog world - scamming is the backbone of Eve never forget that.
If you like pvp join a null/low sec corp / alliance - most of them offer new ships when you lose them in pvp.

NEver fly what you cannot replace instandly - dont jump into a battleships if you dint train most standard certificates for it.
Always check certificates if you dont know how to make your ships stronger.

Have fun in this mmo - i know i do - compared to other mmo's this one has wicked gameplay and meta gaming.
Check the tube for nice movies.

Look up rooks and kings - they provice some epic movies :)

  silverseed71

Novice Member

Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 37

 
OP  1/10/13 12:19:54 PM#13
Thanks for all of the replies. With that many replies I can see this game has a good community. My nephew plays the game and he told me it is a dog eat dog game. I like that. I don't like being babied in games. I played Ultima Online back in the time when you left town, you were fresh meat. I learned the hiding skill real quick in THAT game. I think I may sub in this game for a couple of months. My $30 got freed up when my 2 accounts closed when City Of Heroes closed.
  Malcanis

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Joined: 8/17/09
Posts: 3207

"A very special kind of stupidity"

1/11/13 3:16:17 AM#14
Originally posted by silverseed71
Thanks for all of the replies. With that many replies I can see this game has a good community. My nephew plays the game and he told me it is a dog eat dog game. I like that. I don't like being babied in games. I played Ultima Online back in the time when you left town, you were fresh meat. I learned the hiding skill real quick in THAT game. I think I may sub in this game for a couple of months. My $30 got freed up when my 2 accounts closed when City Of Heroes closed.

In general I like the EVE community. It is indeed a "dog eat dog" game, and if you screw up or don't think something through, you will suffer for it. But the community is generally pretty helpful & supportive to new players who accept that aspect of EVE and engage with it on its own terms, rather than trying to complain their way out of their own mistakes.

If you pay attention to what you're doing, treat losses as learning opportunities, and you're prepared to take a risk to get a reward, you'll have a fine time. Keep in mind that as a new player your "special power" is that nothing that happens to you can really matter all that much in the long run. Your ships are cheap! But the relative size of the rewards available is much higher. 

Give me liberty or give me lasers

  silverseed71

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Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 37

 
OP  1/12/13 8:54:45 AM#15
Originally posted by Malcanis
Originally posted by silverseed71
Thanks for all of the replies. With that many replies I can see this game has a good community. My nephew plays the game and he told me it is a dog eat dog game. I like that. I don't like being babied in games. I played Ultima Online back in the time when you left town, you were fresh meat. I learned the hiding skill real quick in THAT game. I think I may sub in this game for a couple of months. My $30 got freed up when my 2 accounts closed when City Of Heroes closed.

In general I like the EVE community. It is indeed a "dog eat dog" game, and if you screw up or don't think something through, you will suffer for it. But the community is generally pretty helpful & supportive to new players who accept that aspect of EVE and engage with it on its own terms, rather than trying to complain their way out of their own mistakes.

If you pay attention to what you're doing, treat losses as learning opportunities, and you're prepared to take a risk to get a reward, you'll have a fine time. Keep in mind that as a new player your "special power" is that nothing that happens to you can really matter all that much in the long run. Your ships are cheap! But the relative size of the rewards available is much higher. 

Sounds awesome. My only deal is that I work 2 jobs and don't have a lot of time. I can play like 3 hours one night and maybe 2 nights a week. Other than that I may can only get on 30 minutes at a time. Will it be worth $15 a month?

 

  Baitness

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Joined: 10/22/06
Posts: 150

1/12/13 11:16:08 PM#16

You will have to get a trial I think to see how you like it.  Everybody is right on when they tell you to look at everything and just specialize in the one thing that most interests you.  You will be able to be proficient in one thing in a relatively short amount of time...assuming that one thing is not flying battleships.  Speaking of skills in eve, please note that they are learned in real time, whether you are playing the game or not.  You can be at work while you are training up your skills, or hell, on vacation for some of the longer ones.

 

Also, I may be one of the few, but I love the lore of eve.  The chronicles are a good read, short stories taking place within the eve universe.  See here: http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/.

  Malcanis

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Joined: 8/17/09
Posts: 3207

"A very special kind of stupidity"

1/13/13 3:44:50 AM#17
Originally posted by silverseed71
Originally posted by Malcanis
Originally posted by silverseed71
Thanks for all of the replies. With that many replies I can see this game has a good community. My nephew plays the game and he told me it is a dog eat dog game. I like that. I don't like being babied in games. I played Ultima Online back in the time when you left town, you were fresh meat. I learned the hiding skill real quick in THAT game. I think I may sub in this game for a couple of months. My $30 got freed up when my 2 accounts closed when City Of Heroes closed.

In general I like the EVE community. It is indeed a "dog eat dog" game, and if you screw up or don't think something through, you will suffer for it. But the community is generally pretty helpful & supportive to new players who accept that aspect of EVE and engage with it on its own terms, rather than trying to complain their way out of their own mistakes.

If you pay attention to what you're doing, treat losses as learning opportunities, and you're prepared to take a risk to get a reward, you'll have a fine time. Keep in mind that as a new player your "special power" is that nothing that happens to you can really matter all that much in the long run. Your ships are cheap! But the relative size of the rewards available is much higher. 

Sounds awesome. My only deal is that I work 2 jobs and don't have a lot of time. I can play like 3 hours one night and maybe 2 nights a week. Other than that I may can only get on 30 minutes at a time. Will it be worth $15 a month?

 

 

That's for you to decide. The main limitation you will find is that EVE is very strongly based around group activity. If you can find a nice relaxed corp that's willing to accept that you have limited online time, you'll be fine. The main thing to do is to be upfront about your time limitations. You could become a pirate and join a pirate corp; they're usually pretty relaxed about that kind of thing.

One really nice aspect of EVE is the time-based skill training. Even while you're at work, your character will carry on training whatever skills you have queued up. So it's very friendly for people who have limited time. There are also professions like Invention, R&D and Industry that don't really require a lot of online time but which can still make you a lot of ISK. You will need to put some effort into researching how to do this efficiently though.

If you just want to log in and shoot stuff now and then and not spend a lot of time making ISK, then you can even buy extra game time, convert it into ingame items called PLEX and sell those PLEX to other players. That's an option some people find attractive.

Give me liberty or give me lasers