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  jpnz

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3/29/12 6:31:43 AM#241
Originally posted by SophusVir

This is why eve is such crap, it is filled with the scum of the universe. People who would take a steaming dump on your newborn child to get a reaction from you, unless you are as bad as they or worse you will find the dregs of this world creeping about on eve. I will no longer offer them any money only to have time and effort stolen away by ganking asshats who troll the secure areas of space (Funny, secure isn 't what I'd call it but yeah.)

The above post is why EVE attracts certain type of people. :)

Well it used to, I am not sure now though.

Guess we'll know once Goons burn Jita down and see what CCP does.

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  RefMinor

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3/29/12 7:44:22 AM#242
They got their in the end, Mittani sacked from CSM6 chairmanship, sacked from CSM7 altogether and a 30 day ban, fair enough, I hope he comes back and blows lots of shit up, games need bastards and villains.

A line into RL was crossed here and action needed to be taken. I would have respected the man more if he had resigned as promised, instead we saw him decline the CSM7 chairmanship as it conflicted with his GS role, he should have HTFU and taken the hit like a man.

I played EvE for maybe 6 months tops, never had an issue with Goons, I don't care about the metagame above enjoyment of reading the odd good story.
  Gdemami

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3/29/12 7:44:26 AM#243


Originally posted by jpnz

EVE is all about the metagame though.


0.0 might be all about metagame, that still does not stand for whole EVE though.

  dave6660

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3/29/12 10:01:23 AM#244
Originally posted by SophusVir

This is why eve is such crap, it is filled with the scum of the universe. People who would take a steaming dump on your newborn child to get a reaction from you, unless you are as bad as they or worse you will find the dregs of this world creeping about on eve. I will no longer offer them any money only to have time and effort stolen away by ganking asshats who troll the secure areas of space (Funny, secure isn 't what I'd call it but yeah.)

How many mackinaws did you lose in ice belts?

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  Calfis

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3/29/12 10:13:58 AM#245
Originally posted by dave6660
Originally posted by SophusVir

This is why eve is such crap, it is filled with the scum of the universe. People who would take a steaming dump on your newborn child to get a reaction from you, unless you are as bad as they or worse you will find the dregs of this world creeping about on eve. I will no longer offer them any money only to have time and effort stolen away by ganking asshats who troll the secure areas of space (Funny, secure isn 't what I'd call it but yeah.)

How many mackinaws did you lose in ice belts?

Obviously too many.

  Orphes

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3/29/12 10:24:02 AM#246
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by SophusVir

This is why eve is such crap, it is filled with the scum of the universe. People who would take a steaming dump on your newborn child to get a reaction from you, unless you are as bad as they or worse you will find the dregs of this world creeping about on eve. I will no longer offer them any money only to have time and effort stolen away by ganking asshats who troll the secure areas of space (Funny, secure isn 't what I'd call it but yeah.)

The above post is why EVE attracts certain type of people. :)

Well it used to, I am not sure now though.

Guess we'll know once Goons burn Jita down and see what CCP does.

Yes, then we will show how much Sony really knows about the game -company they are pertnering up with.

We will see if Sony does to EVE online (and CCP) as what LucasArts did to SWG (and SOE)...

I'm betting that Sony do not know why this game is one of the few games that actually have been gaining subscription for the last decade whereas other games merele the release month.

I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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  Liddokun

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3/29/12 4:09:23 PM#247
Originally posted by Baxslash

He won't get perma-banned or, anything like that, he is one of CCP's poster boys for the game. After all intrigue and hype just sells the game more, but, mitti. is acting like a little child who doesn't consider the reaction, or, the responsibilities of his actions.

I'm still waiting for the day when CCP is presented with a huge lawsuit over a player who gets caught in Real Life over scamming people, and, then blames CCP and Eve Online for encouraging the behaviour within the game. After all, people will mimick idealogies if they believe they can get away with it.

 

Eve online sounds like thug / hoodlum training ground.

  jpnz

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3/29/12 11:33:00 PM#248
Originally posted by Liddokun
Originally posted by Baxslash

He won't get perma-banned or, anything like that, he is one of CCP's poster boys for the game. After all intrigue and hype just sells the game more, but, mitti. is acting like a little child who doesn't consider the reaction, or, the responsibilities of his actions.

I'm still waiting for the day when CCP is presented with a huge lawsuit over a player who gets caught in Real Life over scamming people, and, then blames CCP and Eve Online for encouraging the behaviour within the game. After all, people will mimick idealogies if they believe they can get away with it.

 

Eve online sounds like thug / hoodlum training ground.

EVE is the ultimate form of 'free' actually.

It has almost no rules (killing new players / cheating excluded) and lets the players do what they want.

I'd say it is probably closer to 'nature' since there are no 'safety net'. It attracts certain type of MMO players, whether it attracts you personally is another issue. :)

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  SlaverHound

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3/30/12 1:48:28 AM#249
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Liddokun
Originally posted by Baxslash

He won't get perma-banned or, anything like that, he is one of CCP's poster boys for the game. After all intrigue and hype just sells the game more, but, mitti. is acting like a little child who doesn't consider the reaction, or, the responsibilities of his actions.

I'm still waiting for the day when CCP is presented with a huge lawsuit over a player who gets caught in Real Life over scamming people, and, then blames CCP and Eve Online for encouraging the behaviour within the game. After all, people will mimick idealogies if they believe they can get away with it.

 

Eve online sounds like thug / hoodlum training ground.

EVE is the ultimate form of 'free' actually.

It has almost no rules (killing new players / cheating excluded) and lets the players do what they want.

I'd say it is probably closer to 'nature' since there are no 'safety net'. It attracts certain type of MMO players, whether it attracts you personally is another issue. :)

There's no death in eve online so it's absolutely nothing like nature and getting cloned when you die is the ultimate safety net.

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  jpnz

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3/30/12 3:39:16 AM#250
Originally posted by SlaverHound
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Liddokun
Originally posted by Baxslash

He won't get perma-banned or, anything like that, he is one of CCP's poster boys for the game. After all intrigue and hype just sells the game more, but, mitti. is acting like a little child who doesn't consider the reaction, or, the responsibilities of his actions.

I'm still waiting for the day when CCP is presented with a huge lawsuit over a player who gets caught in Real Life over scamming people, and, then blames CCP and Eve Online for encouraging the behaviour within the game. After all, people will mimick idealogies if they believe they can get away with it.

 

Eve online sounds like thug / hoodlum training ground.

EVE is the ultimate form of 'free' actually.

It has almost no rules (killing new players / cheating excluded) and lets the players do what they want.

I'd say it is probably closer to 'nature' since there are no 'safety net'. It attracts certain type of MMO players, whether it attracts you personally is another issue. :)

There's no death in eve online so it's absolutely nothing like nature and getting cloned when you die is the ultimate safety net.

Except you lose everything that you had at the time of death.

Only thing you retain are skill points (if your clone is up to date) and in-game gold.

Unless there is an MMO that has perma-death system that I don't know about, this is probably the closest.

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  Loktofeit

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3/30/12 4:13:54 AM#251
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

The real funny(and not 'haha' sort of funny) is that if mittani gets a permaban /corp wipe/ whatever proper punishment for this attitude I am pretty certian that he himself would be driven to suicide.

I'm pretty certain you have no clue what you are talking about.

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  GTwander

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3/30/12 4:16:09 AM#252
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

The real funny(and not 'haha' sort of funny) is that if mittani gets a permaban /corp wipe/ whatever proper punishment for this attitude I am pretty certian that he himself would be driven to suicide.

I'm pretty certain you have no clue what you are talking about.

I think his point is that if he didn't have a mongol horde to look up to him, he'd have nothing to live for...

...and I personally question what he does for a living... wouldn't suprise me if EVE was his entire occupation.

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  jpnz

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3/30/12 8:29:08 AM#253
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

The real funny(and not 'haha' sort of funny) is that if mittani gets a permaban /corp wipe/ whatever proper punishment for this attitude I am pretty certian that he himself would be driven to suicide.

I'm pretty certain you have no clue what you are talking about.

I think his point is that if he didn't have a mongol horde to look up to him, he'd have nothing to live for...

...and I personally question what he does for a living... wouldn't suprise me if EVE was his entire occupation.

He was a DC lawyer but now retired.

 

The factually inaccurate reporting by 'gaming' media is funny though.

Never thought I'd say 'I prefer IGN now'.

What is happening to me? :(

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  Precusor

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3/30/12 8:48:50 AM#254
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

The real funny(and not 'haha' sort of funny) is that if mittani gets a permaban /corp wipe/ whatever proper punishment for this attitude I am pretty certian that he himself would be driven to suicide.

I'm pretty certain you have no clue what you are talking about.

I think his point is that if he didn't have a mongol horde to look up to him, he'd have nothing to live for...

...and I personally question what he does for a living... wouldn't suprise me if EVE was his entire occupation.

Hes pretty wealthy.

  Calfis

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3/30/12 9:20:27 AM#255
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

The real funny(and not 'haha' sort of funny) is that if mittani gets a permaban /corp wipe/ whatever proper punishment for this attitude I am pretty certian that he himself would be driven to suicide.

I'm pretty certain you have no clue what you are talking about.

I think his point is that if he didn't have a mongol horde to look up to him, he'd have nothing to live for...

...and I personally question what he does for a living... wouldn't suprise me if EVE was his entire occupation.

The loyalty he has instilled in that horde is pretty impressive tho even by RL standards, its borderline cult, they drink up his koolaid and ask for more.

  Orphes

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3/30/12 10:15:01 AM#256
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

The real funny(and not 'haha' sort of funny) is that if mittani gets a permaban /corp wipe/ whatever proper punishment for this attitude I am pretty certian that he himself would be driven to suicide.

I'm pretty certain you have no clue what you are talking about.

I think his point is that if he didn't have a mongol horde to look up to him, he'd have nothing to live for...

...and I personally question what he does for a living... wouldn't suprise me if EVE was his entire occupation.

He was a DC lawyer but now retired.

 

The factually inaccurate reporting by 'gaming' media is funny though.

Never thought I'd say 'I prefer IGN now'.

What is happening to me? :(

 

Perhaps you are getting old and smart?

 

Gaming meda only consists of wannabe journalist...

He said something stupid and was stupid as he was being drunk at a presentation. There is nothing more to it.

This mass hysteria people yelling "OH MY GOD!".

All this fuzz and mess is just a proof how stupid and inept the society have become.

 

What's happened to you, besides getting old, perhaps you have overcome this internet shit and realised that you have a mind of your own instead of just letting some stupid (again) wannabe journalist feed you with their shitty rethorics.

 

I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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  jpnz

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3/31/12 6:52:14 AM#257

As the media-frenzy-factually-inaccurate-storm passes we are left with something that was not expected.

A public apology by the 'journalist' that first mentioned the 'cyber bullying' word and created this mess.

http://soundcloud.com/aryndelvyst/the-mittani-vs-brendan-drain

 

Factually wrong statements were

The Mittani mentioned the 'sucidal player's real life name'. - FALSE

The Mittani's personal blog is http://www.kugutsumen.com/ - FALSE

What The Mittani did was 'cyber bullying' - FALSE

 

When the person who 'broke' the story comes out and does a 180 turn TEN SECONDS into the interview, you know something's not as it seemed initially.

Last I checked, Massively has an office in UK which has some draconian libel laws... >.>

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  Marius6870

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3/31/12 7:13:00 AM#258
Originally posted by HTdebuglach
Originally posted by GetzMango
Originally posted by HTdebuglach
Originally posted by GetzMango
Originally posted by HTdebuglach
Originally posted by GetzMango
Originally posted by HTdebuglach

omg get over it, it is not like he told people his personal information, as a former member of GSF, all I have to say you all are pretty clueless about this game and carebears.

When you have nothing to contribute, it's always best to attack the person?

Have you ever played EvE? Do you know anything about the Goons? I would bet all my plex that the goons are laughing about this in mumble right now, it does not bother them one bit nor should it bother you.

It does not matter one way or another if I have played Eve or not. It also does not matter if I know them or if  Goons are laughing. What does matter is the topic at hand. Please try to keep up.

Again what he said does not bother me, if it bothers you then deal with it or quit babbling about it.

It does not matter of it bothers you, it was a wrong action, and should be delt with by CCP.  Don't lke it? YOU deal with it.

I am not the one whinning here like a carebear, and I don't think it was wrong, if you want to tell The Mittani that you are thinking about commiting suicide then you probably deserve the trolling

Carebear? Are you F'kin kidding me? Its all fun and games till someone gets hurt! Using words like "Carebear, Noob and stuff is all part of the "GAME" but is it really a game when someone's life is on the line? Ask yourself this question, would you feel the same if you caught the news tommorow and this guy ended up deceased? This ain't a game anymore when real life is dragged into it sorry, and if you can sit there and try to justify trying to get a troubled guy to off himself for kicks, then you don't need to have your a$$ on the internet, in fact, I think you need to seek professional help in all seriousness. As for the Goon Squad and their leader, if they think this is acceptable and responsible "human" behavior, then maybe they need to join you! And this is not me buying into the mass craze going on around this, however, it is me simply saying that if you agree that trying to get someone to kill themselves is normal behavior, then you need to be in a mental institution. As for the Mittani's apology, I believe he realized he might end up with a ban to appease the angry mob and decided to change course to save face. Truth is, alot "NOT ALL" pvp guilds usally are filled with people that do not think for themselves, nor do they think like normal people, they get off on bullying, trolling, and at times even taking it a step to far. You people out there supporting this kinda behavior need to learn to use some common sense and realize when its no longer a game..

  someforumguy

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3/31/12 7:13:01 AM#259
Originally posted by Puremallace

I guess you can file this article under the wtf column

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/

 

EVE Online's annual Fanfest is an opportunity for players from across the world to share stories of the year's big events, political actions, and epic battles won and lost. Each year, player speakers from the game's biggest and most influential alliances are invited to take part in the Alliance Panel at Fanfest, where they can talk about their organisation and what it's done over the preceding year. Massively got a hold of a copy of this year's Alliance Panel, and unfortunately it was marked by something more distressing than the usual political ego-buffing and mass consumption of alcohol.


GoonSwarm alliance speaker and second-time CSM chairman Alexander 'The Mittani' Gianturco gave a talk on some of the year's most memorable alliance activities, from shutting down Ice Mining operations across several regions to scamming people with fake supercapital ship trades. As part of the talk, Alex aired a private correspondence in which a victim revealed that he'd been severely depressed following a divorce and expressed suicidal thoughts. "We're sure that he's not dead," Alex flippantly remarked during the talk, before adding that "he might have committed suicide."

Read on for the full details of what Alex said to encourage the event's thousands of viewers to engage in cyber-bullying, as well as the response from CCP.

While a flippant remark that the victim may have killed himself could possibly be seen as drunken banter intended to embellish the impact of the story, later in the talk Alex actually gave the name of the pilot and encouraged players to harass him in order to make him commit suicide. "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [REMOVED]," Alex said, adding that "he has his own corp. Find him." The entire talk was watched by a packed room of Fanfest attendees and streamed live to thousands of players at home. Alex told players to "deal with it" when complaints surfaced on the EVE forum.

With people still heading home from Fanfest, CCP responded to tell us they are investigating the issue and will get back to us with the results as soon as they can. Public Relations specialist Ned Coker told Eurogamer that CCP is "undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials," adding that "Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others." Ned also confirmed that "CCP will be very vigilant in monitoring any behaviour directed towards the individual named in the presentation."

Wow, some ppl sure don't understand when it stops being a game. This guy deserves a hospital ticket. Anyone that doesn't see the line here that was crossed, might want to get psychologically tested :/

  jpnz

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3/31/12 7:19:34 AM#260
Originally posted by someforumguy
Originally posted by Puremallace

 

Wow, some ppl sure don't understand when it stops being a game. This guy deserves a hospital ticket. Anyone that doesn't see the line here that was crossed, might want to get psychologically tested :/

Except the article was blown out of proportion, had factually FALSE statements and was not accurate at all. The link also no longer works as the person who wrote it made corrections and has said he will issue a public apology.

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