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EVE Online Forum » Jita (General) » Should I come back

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  Typhado

Novice Member

Joined: 11/07/09
Posts: 177

I don't think you know what I thought you think I did.

 
3/26/12 7:04:20 PM#1

Morning all, yeah one of these threads again.

 

I quit not too long ago (around the whole nex aurum debacle time) and havn't really looked back lately. But then I saw a few videos and stuff from fanfest and have been wondering how eve is going.

First off the reasons I quit:

1. real life issues

2. My play style didn't suite the game all that well

3. Sick of half finished content that is left in game for years, bugs flaws and just some very very ancient content. I don't like the model of continuously pumping out content with promises of iteration that never come, or are cheap hack jobs.

 

My play style, yeah I'm a carebear with a bit of a love of the rp side of things. I have however tried almost everything in game. I really do mean that I've been playing since 2005 and have been from empire mining corps to 0.0 warfare, I remember flying dozens of hauler runs to help FREGE build an outpost in the drone regions back when they where released (and all the fights we had till we lost it). I've been in wormholes done exploration, run a booster producing pos, been doomsdayed by titans and had some amazing fun fights flying logistics, command ships and falcons.

 

Eventually I settled down and found myself liking a mixture of lvl 5 missions, FW and production. I don't play enough or commit enough to do the 0.0 metagame and most things in empire feel too safe for me so I set down in low sec. Also tried trying out the other faction related activities such as epic arcs (minmatar arc was disapointing with lack of options) and cosmos which is some of the oldest and most untouched content in the game. Level 5's though gave me a decent income and occasionally gave me challenges like this one I eventually worked my way through

FW gave me battles of about the size I needed and I didn't keep getting lost on where the front lines are and who we are supposed to be fighting every time I took a month long break. The problems though are it's only half finished like so much other content. There's no real reason to take systems, no encouragement to fight aside from the fun of it. All the major changes in the storyline on factions are in control of CCP we can't really do anything to change what their plan is. Oh and the endless spies, friendly spy rep games and whatnot that is part of eve.

 

So now with the questions:

1. What are they doing to FW? I heard in some video at fanfest they are planning on fixing it by implementing some 0.0 stuff.... While fixing FW sounds amazing making it more like 0.0 sounds horrible. Anyone know anything more about this?

2. Heard lots of changes like ship lines, visible launchers. Sounds like they may actually be finishing off some of the half done content. However I'm a bit wary of this as CCP's attitude with fixes can often be to take the laziest option (eg. fix agent quality by removing it). Do any of you guys who have actually been paying attention think that they have at changed a little from their old plan of non stop half done content with very little effort at fixing/iterating old content. I've heard this patch is about fixing old content I'm a bit worried that after this patch they will go straight back to their old ways.

3. Any other things I've missed that might be able to drag me back to eve?

 

 

Into the breach meatbags

  Zecktorin

Novice Member

Joined: 11/23/11
Posts: 235

3/27/12 2:48:36 AM#2

I would say yes the game is better than it ever has been. Just resubbed and having lots of fun.

 

Fw is gonna become like nullsec except you belong to the factions instead of alliance slike in nullsec.

 

They are rebalancing all ships so that you cant win wiht just supercaps anymore.

When Dust comes in even more features will be added.

  sadeyx

Novice Member

Joined: 11/22/06
Posts: 1564

3/27/12 6:01:40 AM#3

I dont think you said anything about incursions..... if your a carebear, you should try incursions :)

 

Probably need a t3 ship, or a very well fitted shield buffer Battleship, but thats whats been keeping me hooked to Eve recently.

  notmex

Novice Member

Joined: 1/08/05
Posts: 33

3/29/12 11:19:37 AM#4

Problem with being a carebear, (which anyone that lives in hisec is a carebear for all you suck pvpr's that do hisec wardecs), that you'll find a good corp, start to do things with friends, and another carebear (they sometimes call themselves mercs)  corp will come along and wardec you. Then everyone starts leaving the corp and you go back to the npc corp and quit.

It's kinda pathetic really, you look at there employment history, and they have never been to a null corp/alliance, but they scream carebear when they are the bigest one.

  BigHatLogan

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Joined: 1/09/06
Posts: 690

3/29/12 11:27:21 AM#5
Originally posted by notmex

Problem with being a carebear, (which anyone that lives in hisec is a carebear for all you suck pvpr's that do hisec wardecs), that you'll find a good corp, start to do things with friends, and another carebear (they sometimes call themselves mercs)  corp will come along and wardec you. Then everyone starts leaving the corp and you go back to the npc corp and quit.

It's kinda pathetic really, you look at there employment history, and they have never been to a null corp/alliance, but they scream carebear when they are the bigest one.

Sounds like someone got owned, lol.  As a high sec wardeccer, ninja salvager, suicide ganker, and can flipper, all I can say is that I have never called myself a merc.  Or really anything specific.  I get called scum a lot though. 

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  Calfis

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/15/11
Posts: 300

3/29/12 11:40:22 AM#6
Originally posted by notmex

Problem with being a carebear, (which anyone that lives in hisec is a carebear for all you suck pvpr's that do hisec wardecs), that you'll find a good corp, start to do things with friends, and another carebear (they sometimes call themselves mercs)  corp will come along and wardec you. Then everyone starts leaving the corp and you go back to the npc corp and quit.

It's kinda pathetic really, you look at there employment history, and they have never been to a null corp/alliance, but they scream carebear when they are the bigest one.

Actually the one's I've run into are usually ex-nullsec ppl, as a nullsec person myself the idea of having ready to shoot targets outside market hubs is somewhat more appealing than roaming for a couple of hours looking for fights and ganks. But at the end of the day it does seem less sporting going after people who have no idea how to fit a pvp ship. However if we call them out of that, they call us out on our blobbing so in the end its really kind of the same.

As for the OPs questions, as far as I know they are trying to make certain stations in lowsec faction militia conquerable, so if say Minmatar takes station A in a lowsec system then Amarr militia guys can't dock there. But everyone not involved in faction warfare can, kinda sounds like punishment for being in faction warfare as posters on EVE-O forums point out. Also I heard alliances will be able to join faction warfare, not just corps. I think the argument was alliances get involved in faction warfare anyway (i.e. hotdrop) so why not try to make em a constructive part of it? :/

  Gdemami

Elite Member

Joined: 9/23/08
Posts: 5797

3/29/12 12:38:25 PM#7

Honestly? No.

There is no content that could fix fundamental issue you are not satisfied with - CCP. I am in the same boat as you and I quit the game not due the game itself but CCP, I simply got tired of their mismanagement.

CCP is currently worse then they have ever been, desperately grasping for straws and it just does not work. They lack competent game designers and management, they can no longer do things "right".


CCP has lost a vision for their game. Since Revelation finished the development of core features, there is no coherent development that would push the game into some sensible, defined, clear direction.

  dave6660

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/08
Posts: 1877

3/29/12 1:19:44 PM#8
Originally posted by notmex

Problem with being a carebear, (which anyone that lives in hisec is a carebear for all you suck pvpr's that do hisec wardecs), that you'll find a good corp, start to do things with friends, and another carebear (they sometimes call themselves mercs)  corp will come along and wardec you. Then everyone starts leaving the corp and you go back to the npc corp and quit.

It's kinda pathetic really, you look at there employment history, and they have never been to a null corp/alliance, but they scream carebear when they are the bigest one.

Just because you live in high sec does not make you immune to PvP.  There are plenty of options if you get war decced

  • Fight back (you might find it fun)
  • Play alts for a few days
  • Move to another high sec region temporarily (unless they were hired to kill you they won't travel very far to find you)
  • Hire mercs to kill them (Noir is very good at this)
  • Move to low sec for a while (high sec war-bears are scared of low sec)
  • Stay together and use alts to watch neighboring systems for reds
  • Form an alliance with other high sec corps making it a much more expensive proposition to war dec you
  • If all else fails take a few days off, they won't keep renewing a war dec that isn't yielding any fights or kills
You have yourself beaten before you even started.
 

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-- Linus Torvalds

  notmex

Novice Member

Joined: 1/08/05
Posts: 33

3/29/12 3:52:25 PM#9
Originally posted by sullivanj69
Sounds like someone got owned, lol.  As a high sec wardeccer, ninja salvager, suicide ganker, and can flipper, all I can say is that I have never called myself a merc.  Or really anything specific.  I get called scum a lot though. 

Oh look, carebear coward. These are the ones that suck to bad to go to null. They have never left hisec and probably never will. This way they can seek out targets in the safety of hisec, the ones they know they can take, without the threat of being attacked themselves.

 

This is a true coward.

  notmex

Novice Member

Joined: 1/08/05
Posts: 33

3/29/12 3:55:41 PM#10
Originally posted by dave6660
Just because you live in high sec does not make you immune to PvP.  There are plenty of options if you get war decced
  • Fight back (you might find it fun)
  • Play alts for a few days
  • Move to another high sec region temporarily (unless they were hired to kill you they won't travel very far to find you)
  • Hire mercs to kill them (Noir is very good at this)
  • Move to low sec for a while (high sec war-bears are scared of low sec)
  • Stay together and use alts to watch neighboring systems for reds
  • Form an alliance with other high sec corps making it a much more expensive proposition to war dec you
  • If all else fails take a few days off, they won't keep renewing a war dec that isn't yielding any fights or kills
You have yourself beaten before you even started.
 

Not saying i'm immuned to it. It is just the cowardly ones that do it make me ill. No one in the corp i was in would fight, most left, so that is how it is.

I've only played maybe 14mos in the past 7 years, and 7 months was in null.

 

You were entirely correct when you say hisec war-bears are scared of lowsec and most I do a employment history on have never been there. It's really pathetic.

  dave6660

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/08
Posts: 1877

3/29/12 5:41:24 PM#11
Originally posted by notmex
Originally posted by dave6660
Just because you live in high sec does not make you immune to PvP.  There are plenty of options if you get war decced
  • Fight back (you might find it fun)
  • Play alts for a few days
  • Move to another high sec region temporarily (unless they were hired to kill you they won't travel very far to find you)
  • Hire mercs to kill them (Noir is very good at this)
  • Move to low sec for a while (high sec war-bears are scared of low sec)
  • Stay together and use alts to watch neighboring systems for reds
  • Form an alliance with other high sec corps making it a much more expensive proposition to war dec you
  • If all else fails take a few days off, they won't keep renewing a war dec that isn't yielding any fights or kills
You have yourself beaten before you even started.
 

Not saying i'm immuned to it. It is just the cowardly ones that do it make me ill. No one in the corp i was in would fight, most left, so that is how it is.

I've only played maybe 14mos in the past 7 years, and 7 months was in null.

 

You were entirely correct when you say hisec war-bears are scared of lowsec and most I do a employment history on have never been there. It's really pathetic.

If you lived in null sec then I don't see why this bothers you.  You seem to be implying that nobody should war dec a high sec corp on general principle.  That's a pipe dream.  High sec mission runners are known for flying officer mod faction battleships, when you kill them it's a loot pinata.  I can't blame anyone for trying to get a piece of that.

Find another corp with more backbone.

"How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it."
-- Linus Torvalds

  User Deleted
3/29/12 5:49:58 PM#12

yes its awsome!

  djmtott

Novice Member

Joined: 1/04/06
Posts: 182

3/29/12 9:30:47 PM#13
Originally posted by notmex

Problem with being a carebear, (which anyone that lives in hisec is a carebear for all you suck pvpr's that do hisec wardecs), that you'll find a good corp, start to do things with friends, and another carebear (they sometimes call themselves mercs)  corp will come along and wardec you. Then everyone starts leaving the corp and you go back to the npc corp and quit.

It's kinda pathetic really, you look at there employment history, and they have never been to a null corp/alliance, but they scream carebear when they are the bigest one.

This is exactly what has happened to me. At least 2-3 times. Finding a good, active corps is probably the toughest part of EVE.