"GoonSwarm alliance speaker and second-time CSM chairman Alexander 'The Mittani' Gianturco gave a talk on some of the year's most memorable alliance activities..."

*facepalm*

Letting any of the SA goons speak publicly at an event is the equivilant of begging to be kicked between your legs.

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by palulalula

Ah cmon! Stop making some Oprah show drama. He didnt  gave real name from guy, it was his name in game. And who for heaven would share his private problems with Mittani, he is well known as one of major a......s. Good guys are not on side of goons, most of them have bad reputation. Never ever trust someone in eve because bad things are  part of the game

Are you kidding me?!! who would trust their problems with someone with power?? someone who is vulnerable, like that guy. And the fact that he didn't gave his name does not matter because other players wont find him by his real name, and the last thing a guy who is thinking about suicide needs is a ton of emails from other assholes telling him to kill himself....

Ah and you share your private problems with other players or what?  He can delete that character and  create new one :===). Now we have even real whiners in game, what is next? They will sue me for emotional abuse of some emo kid because i didnt shoot his ship softly and tenderly

Can the community hold a "Vote of No Confidence" for this guy?  Or do they have to wait another year?

Nothing new in our world today..

You can be chased out of town for being Gay, Black, Hispanic, White, oh.. .and the newest on.. FOR WEARING A FUCKING HOODIE!!!

JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON MARTIN!!!

Originally posted by Ceridith

"GoonSwarm alliance speaker and second-time CSM chairman Alexander 'The Mittani' Gianturco gave a talk on some of the year's most memorable alliance activities..."

*facepalm*

Letting any of the SA goons speak publicly at an event is the equivilant of begging to be kicked between your legs.

I also agree with this..I mean c'mon - Goons have a reputation from various games as absolute dbags...why would CCP give them this position...?

This kind of problem with the EVE community doesn't surprise me in the least. I played EVE off and on since beta and eventually had to give up on the game due to the beligerant and crude fanbase that CCP encourages.

Originally posted by palulalula

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by palulalula

Ah cmon! Stop making some Oprah show drama. He didnt  gave real name from guy, it was his name in game. And who for heaven would share his private problems with Mittani, he is well known as one of major a......s. Good guys are not on side of goons, most of them have bad reputation. Never ever trust someone in eve because bad things are  part of the game

Are you kidding me?!! who would trust their problems with someone with power?? someone who is vulnerable, like that guy. And the fact that he didn't gave his name does not matter because other players wont find him by his real name, and the last thing a guy who is thinking about suicide needs is a ton of emails from other assholes telling him to kill himself....

Ah and you share your private problems with other players or what?  He can delete that character and  create new one :===). Now we have even real whiners in game, what is next? They will sue me for emotional abuse of some emo kid because i didnt shoot his ship softly and tenderly

The goon guy 'mittens' or whatever his name is looks pretty emo to me...nice hat...lolz

Gamers conferences are not a place to discuss someones depression or suicide issues even if the conversation took place in game.  He knew what he was doing, goons have a reputation for this sort of stuff.

Originally posted by palulalula

 

Ah and you share your private problems with other players or what?  He can delete that character and  create new one :===). Now we have even real whiners in game, what is next? They will sue me for emotional abuse of some emo kid because i didnt shoot his ship softly and tenderly

No sane people don't share their private problems with other players.  Suicidal people do.  That's the point.

More to the point is that this guy is the head representation of the playerbase for EVE.  That means it's a PR position.  He can say what he wants, but if he's banned or w/e he deserves it.  This type of action will not encourage new players at all and damages EVE and the CCP brand if they do nothing.  He brought this on himself by going too far with his comments.

CCP needs to protect their brand and future investments.

Originally posted by Ausare

Wonder if the victim is in the US.  With some new state laws just saying that and putting it over the web could bring charges.

The UK seems to be hotting up on this sort of thing recently with their Malicious Communications Act. They gave a couple of guys 4 years for inciting a riot on facebook, they didn't even go to the riot themselves, if they had they would have only got 2 years. Arrested some guy for racial abuse on facebook recently too and there's a lot of pressure here for tougher sentances on the RIP trolling where they're currently prosecuting a few. That's with all the activity online, this was irl , it seems they're looking to make a few headline cases and I reckon they'd cream if this had happened here.

Originally posted by Ausare

There is a future lawsuit against CCP.

Not to say this, but do you realize how fucked CCP might be if this guy did shoot himself? There literally was just a presecedent set for this kind of crap with the guy who threw himself of the bridge. God forbid CNN or someone else pick this up.

Originally posted by palulalula

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by palulalula

Ah cmon! Stop making some Oprah show drama. He didnt  gave real name from guy, it was his name in game. And who for heaven would share his private problems with Mittani, he is well known as one of major a......s. Good guys are not on side of goons, most of them have bad reputation. Never ever trust someone in eve because bad things are  part of the game

Are you kidding me?!! who would trust their problems with someone with power?? someone who is vulnerable, like that guy. And the fact that he didn't gave his name does not matter because other players wont find him by his real name, and the last thing a guy who is thinking about suicide needs is a ton of emails from other assholes telling him to kill himself....

Ah and you share your private problems with other players or what?  He can delete that character and  create new one :===). Now we have even real whiners in game, what is next? They will sue me for emotional abuse of some emo kid because i didnt shoot his ship softly and tenderly

Do you not understand the difference between the mind state of a person who wants to commit suicide and someone who doesn't? Suicide is not something to joke with or joke at, get your facts straight and think a bit before you speak.

Originally posted by Puremallace

 

Not to say this, but do you realize how fucked CCP might be if this guy did shoot himself? There literally was just a presecedent set for this kind of crap with the guy who threw himself of the bridge. God forbid CNN or someone else pick this up.

The difference here is that this guy is actually encouraging the suicidal person to kill himself.  Which is much worse in my opinion.

Originally posted by Czanrei

This kind of problem with the EVE community doesn't surprise me in the least. I played EVE off and on since beta and eventually had to give up on the game due to the beligerant and crude fanbase that CCP encourages.

Well, thats  completely wrong. Eve comunity is awesome and you have there one of the best help channel in mmo world. You find always somone to help you and to give you answer on your questions. To say that about ccp is false and rude from you, this guys are always with us and you should show me game where you can talk in help channel with game developers like we do in eve. And people get banned for any kind of harassment that is not related with game, like race, religion, crimes exct

Originally posted by Kuppa

 

Do you not understand the difference between the mind state of a person who wants to commit suicide and someone who doesn't? Suicide is not something to joke with or joke at, get your facts straight and think a bit before you speak.

Amen Kuppa.

Originally posted by palulalula

Originally posted by Czanrei

This kind of problem with the EVE community doesn't surprise me in the least. I played EVE off and on since beta and eventually had to give up on the game due to the beligerant and crude fanbase that CCP encourages.

Well, thats  completely wrong. Eve comunity is awesome and you have there one of the best help channel in mmo world. You find always somone to help you and to give you answer on your questions. To say that about ccp is false and rude from you, this guys are always with us and you should show me game where you can talk in help channel with game developers like we do in eve. And people get banned for any kind of harassment that is not related with game, like race, religion, crimes exct

We the players of these types of games are the very worst of our respective countries.  Myself for example, I make less than $200,000 a year which is terrible and stay inside playing MMO's way more than a normal adult in society.  I will never be invited to the Playboy Mansion to mingle with beautiful women nor will I be accepted by the mainstream. 

Suicide is just one of many problems we have on a long, long list of issues we must face while playing.

...and people wonder why other's won't touch EVE with a ten foot pole.  This kind of stuff is exactly what I'd expect from their community. 

I'd have a good laugh if he was banned and sued.

give a man a shotgun and he wil shoot.

give a man a microphone and he will speak.

whoever gave him chance to speak is the one to blame.

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by palulalula

Originally posted by Czanrei

This kind of problem with the EVE community doesn't surprise me in the least. I played EVE off and on since beta and eventually had to give up on the game due to the beligerant and crude fanbase that CCP encourages.

Well, thats  completely wrong. Eve comunity is awesome and you have there one of the best help channel in mmo world. You find always somone to help you and to give you answer on your questions. To say that about ccp is false and rude from you, this guys are always with us and you should show me game where you can talk in help channel with game developers like we do in eve. And people get banned for any kind of harassment that is not related with game, like race, religion, crimes exct

 

I have found the EvE community both kind and helpful and devious and ruthless, however Mittani was not playing the game, he asked people on a public platform to harass a man into suicide, this is beyond EvE.

.......and that would be why if the victim did commit suicide Alex and CCP are both fucked at this point. There's a clear line between gaming and real life.  Even if the victim didn't commit suicide both parties may be fucked anyway.

Think skull rule hmm or knowing someone is unbalanced and getting others to harass said individual there is a tort there somewhere. I would not put it past a lawyer to sue.