Well I installed the trial and jumped in to the tutorial.  Played the tutorial which was pretty interesting and easy to follow...

Go here, kill this pirate, come back, go mine, come back, place it in your items, etc.  Was cool, I was going good.  Then she introduced me to an agent...I did an agent mission, came back got some isk.  Talked to the other agent and did that mission, came back got some more isk, then the tutorial just stops.  Now I opened up the tutorials and they had tons of tutorials, but I really didn't know what order to do them in.  But the agent gave me another mission and I went out to try it and got destroyed.  Went back to try it, died again.  Oh well.  It's a tough learning, I may or may not try it again. 

Yea I got into Eve and tried the trial out did some tutorial stuff, wasn't my kind of game so I was out....

my best suggestion.

Ask for help.  other players in newbie help and your starting corp are normally very helpful.

EVE is a VERY boring game apart from the market and PVP so just get in a bantum for laughs and joing a PVP faction and just mine people to death.

Man EvE is boring without a corp that serves your goals. If you think you will want to do missions (pve) or do the crafting then find a corp for that. If you want to fight in fleets and pvp, or pirate and kill other players then join a corp for that. This is def not a game where you can go (guildless) and be the lone pilot because you will get bored

Also tried the trial, but my problem was totally different.

Here's my experience.

Pros:

1. FUN, yes the game is fun. You can fight, craft (never even tried that), or mine/trade/make money in general.

2. Big, feels epic.

3. Lots of ships

4. Corps can take space for themselves and that actually has benefits (I never got to experience this, but that sounds hella fun)

Cons: (and why I won't be staying sadly)

1. Oddly I have the feeling that after completing every level 1 mission (at least 20 times) that I've experienced almost the full extent of combat. I have nothing against EVE's style of combat, but honestly it gets old fast when I gain nothing but money I can't use yet.

2. Artificial pacing (see below)

Before I say anything more this is NOT a rant about never catching up to long time players. After reading that flame fest a few posts down I just want to make that clear. I've played MMOs for 10 years(The majority in EQ) now, I know vet players will *usually* be ahead of the curve.

My issue is not that I can never catch up, it's that no matter what I do (minus pumping my Learning skills) it means nothing for advancement. It's the ultimate casual game - regardless of how much you play you will be forced to stay the same as the guy that pays his monthly and logs in to train.

Yes I make money, but what good does that do me when I've purchased almost all the best junk I can use with my current skills? Bank money for when my next skill-up ticks over and unlocks a new item? Start PvPing in a Thrasher? (I was flying around a Thrasher with 280mm artils [in hindsight I should of got smaller cannons as i ran out of cpu and could only fill 5 top slots and had 2 artils left] on my first day of the trial and halfway to buying a Rupture + I purchased all skills I could that I hadn't started with, and the Cruiser learning book which i couldn't train yet (5 days on Min-Frig 4))

While I'm sad I never got to experience 0,0 PvP and corp warfare, I just can't play a game that restrains me soo much. Even if it is a good game.

[In reference to the locked thread, I created a guild in WoW with ~14 friends. We went from level 1 to 70 (I PvP'd ~1 month while they caught up) and I got full badge gear, a full set of PvP gear, beat kara umpteen times, and got ZA down to the last boss in only ~7 months. The XP boost happened when I was level 50.]

Originally posted by Ugun

Also tried the trial, but my problem was totally different.

Here's my experience.

Pros:

1. FUN, yes the game is fun. You can fight, craft (never even tried that), or mine/trade/make money in general.

2. Big, feels epic.

3. Lots of ships

4. Corps can take space for themselves and that actually has benefits (I never got to experience this, but that sounds hella fun)

 

Cons: (and why I won't be staying sadly)

1. Oddly I have the feeling that after completing every level 1 mission (at least 20 times) that I've experienced almost the full extent of combat. I have nothing against EVE's style of combat, but honestly it gets old fast when I gain nothing but money I can't use yet.

2. Artificial pacing (see below)

Before I say anything more this is NOT a rant about never catching up to long time players. After reading that flame fest a few posts down I just want to make that clear. I've played MMOs for 10 years(The majority in EQ) now, I know vet players will *usually* be ahead of the curve.

My issue is not that I can never catch up, it's that no matter what I do (minus pumping my Learning skills) it means nothing for advancement. It's the ultimate casual game - regardless of how much you play you will be forced to stay the same as the guy that pays his monthly and logs in to train.

Yes I make money, but what good does that do me when I've purchased almost all the best junk I can use with my current skills? Bank money for when my next skill-up ticks over and unlocks a new item? Start PvPing in a Thrasher? (I was flying around a Thrasher with 280mm artils [in hindsight I should of got smaller cannons as i ran out of cpu and could only fill 5 top slots and had 2 artils left] on my first day of the trial and halfway to buying a Rupture + I purchased all skills I could that I hadn't started with, and the Cruiser learning book which i couldn't train yet (5 days on Min-Frig 4))

 

 

While I'm sad I never got to experience 0,0 PvP and corp warfare, I just can't play a game that restrains me soo much. Even if it is a good game.

 

[In reference to the locked thread, I created a guild in WoW with ~14 friends. We went from level 1 to 70 (I PvP'd ~1 month while they caught up) and I got full badge gear, a full set of PvP gear, beat kara umpteen times, and got ZA down to the last boss in only ~7 months. The XP boost happened when I was level 50.]

people keep saying it cuz it's true -- give eve university a try.  

Regarding Ugun's question about what to do with money:

Yes, definitely save your excess.  Eve encourages the perception of ships as expendible commodities, and having plenty of isk in reserve is one way to replace your ships when they pop.

If you're not into PvP, give your excess to me, I'm sure I'll find a good place to "spend" it.  *grin*

Originally posted by Ugun

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[In reference to the locked thread, I created a guild in WoW with ~14 friends. We went from level 1 to 70 (I PvP'd ~1 month while they caught up) and I got full badge gear, a full set of PvP gear, beat kara umpteen times, and got ZA down to the last boss in only ~7 months. The XP boost happened when I was level 50.]

Bet you played a bit more than 2 hrs at a time too ;)

Even before the XP buff you could get to 70 within a month if you went hardcore and decided to put in 6-8 hours on workdays and 16 hrs on the weekends.  Being at the top (back when that was BT progression) meant you farmed for raiding mats and then spent several consecutive hours raiding every night.  If you were in a lesser guild still doing progression runs in SSC/TK you could still be stuck doing 6+ hours a night raiding for gear.  Eve doesn't have any of these, which makes it a bit more casual-friendly.  These days I'm sure if you're doing Sunwell Plateau you're still putting in hard hours as well.

Originally posted by Ugun
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1. Oddly I have the feeling that after completing every level 1 mission (at least 20 times) that I've experienced almost the full extent of combat. I have nothing against EVE's style of combat, but honestly it gets old fast when I gain nothing but money I can't use yet.

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Until you've been involved in PvP in some form you haven't touched EVE's combat system .

For instance, your soloing a player in a low sec belt; its a fairly even fight and your both down to about 20% armor and are 13km apart; your down to about 15% cap, and 2 new names just appeared in local.... do you turn on your afterburner to try get within 10km and NOS him to finish the fight? or hang back and use your remaining cap to keep your armor rep going? or spin around and get outside scramble range and warp to safety?

Im not saying there is a right/wrong answer, but many so called 'veteran' mission runners who do level 4 q20's all day probably wouldn't have the faintest idea what to base their decision on in a fairly typical PvP situation.

Originally posted by FischerBlack

Originally posted by Ugun
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1. Oddly I have the feeling that after completing every level 1 mission (at least 20 times) that I've experienced almost the full extent of combat. I have nothing against EVE's style of combat, but honestly it gets old fast when I gain nothing but money I can't use yet.

...

 

Until you've been involved in PvP in some form you haven't touched EVE's combat system .

For instance, your soloing a player in a low sec belt; its a fairly even fight and your both down to about 20% armor and are 13km apart; your down to about 15% cap, and 2 new names just appeared in local.... do you turn on your afterburner to try get within 10km and NOS him to finish the fight? or hang back and use your remaining cap to keep your armor rep going? or spin around and get outside scramble range and warp to safety?

Im not saying there is a right/wrong answer, but many so called 'veteran' mission runners who do level 4 q20's all day probably wouldn't have the faintest idea what to base their decision on in a fairly typical PvP situation.

This! Until you've done some serious pvp'ing you have no clue what combat is about. Running missions is hardly scratching the surface.

Originally posted by vingvega

Well I installed the trial and jumped in to the tutorial.  Played the tutorial which was pretty interesting and easy to follow...

Go here, kill this pirate, come back, go mine, come back, place it in your items, etc.  Was cool, I was going good.  Then she introduced me to an agent...I did an agent mission, came back got some isk.  Talked to the other agent and did that mission, came back got some more isk, then the tutorial just stops.  Now I opened up the tutorials and they had tons of tutorials, but I really didn't know what order to do them in.  But the agent gave me another mission and I went out to try it and got destroyed.  Went back to try it, died again.  Oh well.  It's a tough learning, I may or may not try it again. 

Yup, I got the same feeling too. Is not like I dont want to try the game, it just I cannot catch up with other that played not more but longer because of the skill system. For the fanbois that say you can catch up with training only some specialize skill and will take you 6 months to be on par with the pvp things. No, I dont want to waste 6 months of sub just to be on par with other ppl. If I have no life and grind 24 hours a day, I want to be rewarded and not because I paid more by subbing