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DemonknightI  10/30/06 11:07:01 PM

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First suggestion is completely rethink your skill system.  There's absolutely no way for a new player to compete with older players no matter how much in-game time he invests...the older players will always have the skill advantage.

Secondly, reduce unnecessary timesinkers.  Most of your time playing this game you'll notice you're just flying towards a jumpgate or a space station and it takes just too dame long.  Some of the missions will start you out 15 minutes away from the jumpgate to begin for absolutely no reason.  No reason at all...

Third, the missions are just horrible.  WoW is a complete carebear game, but at the very least the game had a lot more to do PvE then this game will ever dream of having. 

Fourth, start new players out with much much more money.  You don't start with crap so you get to run the same repatative newbie missions for chump change. 

If you're a newbie solo player, you're screwed completely.  You can't fight anyone cause they're going to have more skills and most likely more money hence better equipment and ship.  If you're lucky enough to know a few people or be in a corporation you'll probably just be known as another anklebiter.

Charging 15$ a month for this game is insulting and shameful.
 
SnaKey  10/30/06 11:13:06 PM

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Dude, read your other thread.

You're just a moron. lol

PVE isn't the focus of the game. PVE is just something that was thrown in to make the world more dynamic.

EVE isn't a solo player's game.

I'd love to see you take on a lvl 55 with only 2 months play in a game like L2. ::::12::::::12::::::12::::::12::::::12::::::12::

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DemonknightI  10/30/06 11:17:15 PM

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But at the very least I could one day catch up to the level 55 through playing more than him whereas in Eve that could never happen.  Their skill system is just horribly flawed..
 
SnaKey  10/30/06 11:22:59 PM

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Originally posted by DemonknightI
But at the very least I could one day catch up to the level 55 through playing more than him whereas in Eve that could never happen. Their skill system is just horribly flawed..

No... no you wouldn't. Unless you BOUGHT a lvl 55.
The game would be long dead before you ever reached lvl 40.

Even in WoW, let me see you catch up to a player who has been on one of the oldest servers since Day 1. You can catch up to him in lvls but he'll always pwn you because he's decked out in the best epics.

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DemonknightI  10/31/06 12:06:08 AM

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sigh....

It a game where levels are attained through leveling ingame if said "lvl 55" didn't play for awhile and I did play I could make that level while he was still at it.  In Eve you don't even have to play and you keep on skilling up so there's virtually no way to catch up unless everyone else turns off their skills and lets you.

thanks
 
RollinDutch  10/31/06 3:12:05 AM

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Originally posted by DemonknightI
sigh....

It a game where levels are attained through leveling ingame if said "lvl 55" didn't play for awhile and I did play I could make that level while he was still at it.  In Eve you don't even have to play and you keep on skilling up so there's virtually no way to catch up unless everyone else turns off their skills and lets you.

thanks

The fact that you think it matters at all what 'level' someone is in EVE is why you suck at EVE. SP are all but irrelevant in combat.

And before you respond with your (month?) of experience disputing that, I helped run a corp composed of refugees from another MMOG just coming into EVE about a year ago. A month after they all started they were kicking the hell out of everyone they saw, now theyre a top-shelf PvP corp - even though none of their members have more then a year's worth of skill training. Why could they do what you were incapable of? Theyre much, much better then you. Thats not a game design flaw.

Go back to some other MMOG where you can grind levels and then pwn mad nubz.
 
GunnyFisher  10/31/06 8:16:03 PM

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"I died again"

SWG was the source of the refugees I take it?

I uhm, reguarly kill people that have played almost 3 years, solo even. How? All my skill points are relavent to the ship I am in, not so true with theres.

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micona  10/31/06 8:22:24 PM

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Originally posted by DemonknightI
First suggestion is completely rethink your skill system.  There's absolutely no way for a new player to compete with older players no matter how much in-game time he invests...the older players will always have the skill advantage.

Secondly, reduce unnecessary timesinkers.  Most of your time playing this game you'll notice you're just flying towards a jumpgate or a space station and it takes just too dame long.  Some of the missions will start you out 15 minutes away from the jumpgate to begin for absolutely no reason.  No reason at all...

Third, the missions are just horrible.  WoW is a complete carebear game, but at the very least the game had a lot more to do PvE then this game will ever dream of having. 

Fourth, start new players out with much much more money.  You don't start with crap so you get to run the same repatative newbie missions for chump change. 

If you're a newbie solo player, you're screwed completely.  You can't fight anyone cause they're going to have more skills and most likely more money hence better equipment and ship.  If you're lucky enough to know a few people or be in a corporation you'll probably just be known as another anklebiter.

Charging 15$ a month for this game is insulting and shameful.

dude stop starting these useless threads if you dont liek the game DONT PLAY !!!  there no catch up in eve just brains.... shsshh
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remusus03  11/01/06 1:56:31 AM

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You so far i have played for around 4 months  , people talk about lvl lvl in fantasy game and when u compare to that to eve , the older has a little better edge thats all , but its just a small portion of the quation pwn that guy.

The main stuff about tkaing out older players , here's some basic: Use evey intel on that person .

1) Ship he flies

2) Bigger the ship its harder to hit smaller ships unless he's got drones.

3) Depnding upon the Type of race of ship he's flying try fitting Jammers (If he cant lock u , how the heck is he gona fire at u? )

4) The guy may be in a battleship , Big ships are low on agility makes them harder to move around , basically from the size , EVERY shot u give at it it will hit from a smaller ship . Ever heard of webifiers? use that , then see wat happens to his B.S , he wont be able to move at all , and if u jam him wat good is he having all the SP ? This game has soooo many parametes to DEAL out the final OUTCOME , that no person can master it no matter wat skill points u have. Think on the base's of reality , ur facing a guy with really good ship and if all this fails , use other support get some friends along to join in doesnt matter if they just started out. The modules fitted with cheap stuff will also.

We had once taken a out a Battleship a guy who had experince of 1.5 years , with just 5 of our corp mates  with 2 Cruseir and 3 tackilng T-1 frigs. , all of use where just  less than 2 months old that time.

The setup is the main thing that makes a differnce then using it is other thing to be looked at it. The timning of ur attack (Keep Baits /COnfuse him) all this matters.

The whole thing is based on tactics , not only in PVP , in PVE aswell , Trading and Mining

 
Jinx_Barker  11/01/06 1:54:35 PM

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Whatever the OP says is Bull Crap. EVE now is exactly what the developers envisioned when they made the game. Key to success in EVE is SPECIALISATION.

One thing so called "veteran" players have over the new characters is that they can do MORE THINGS, fly MORE SHIPS. On the other hand, a new character has a chance to become good at something by specializing in a particular area. At any rate, he can become better than 50% of the Veterans in a particular aspect of the game.

EVE doesn’t have a "pawn all" and "uber/insta kill" weapons, it is a game that requires you to plan, meticulously at that. It is a game that requires you to think, and scheme, and manipulate. It also requires you to be older than 13, since there is no instant gratification, and there is a really good possibility that you might loose everything you worked for months in less than a minute. Real risk, ladies and gentlemen, EVE has it.


Anyway, the OP has no idea what he is blabbing about. I have quit EVE, usually due to the fact that I was starting to get too involved in the game, about 3 times. And, I always come back, because the bitch is so fraking addictive and complex.

No other MMO out there can rival EVE Online in its complexity and depth, sorry, I know I sound like a fan-boi, but that what it is. If something comes along that would rival EVE's complexity and nature of engrossing gameplay, be assured I will switch, until then - there is EVE and there are 'luke-warm' MMO's, that is it.

SnaKey  11/01/06 8:11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jinx_Barker
EVE doesn’t have a "pawn all" and "uber/insta kill"
weapons

Of course it does. hehe.

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BigDave7481  11/03/06 4:39:40 PM

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lol I was gonna say What about the titans "I win" button?
 
lowrads  11/04/06 3:17:01 AM

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