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EVE Online: Future of EVE Overview

MMORPG.com is at EVE FanFest, and here on the last day, the developers have released a great deal of new information about the future of the game. Rather than making you wait until we have time to write an in-depth article (which we will in the coming days), we wanted to bring you this hastily put-together overview of what we have learned.

When we released our information on Walking on Stations earlier in the week, we promised you that there would be a number of new and exciting announcements coming out of this year’s FanFest. Today, in a two hour presentation, the folks from CCP have dropped a number of intriguing announcements in our collective laps.

While I am still at the convention center and the event and announcements are continuing to roll out, I wanted to take a few minutes to update you on what we now know about the future of the sci-fi sandbox MMO.

We already know that the company’s winter expansion, Quantum Rise will launch this Tuesday, and so I’ll save more specifics on that for a time when I have a chance to write. Instead, I’m just going to give you a few bullet points to keep you up to speed:

The Expansion After Quantum Rise

The next expansion after Quantum Rise will add a new tech level to the EVE Universe known as Tech 3.

Tech 3 will introduce not only the new ships that are expected to be introduced along with any new tech level, but those ships will be customizable. Each ship is constructed by putting together five modules and with a number of different options for each module, players will be able to create upwards of 3,000 different ship variations. While not much more specific information is available, we were told that these modules won’t simply be aesthetic, but will actually serve an in-game purpose.

The upcoming expansion will also introduce wormholes that will allow players to travel to un-discovered space and begin to take it over. This serves to further expand the reachable EVE Universe.

Finally, and arguably the biggest piece of information that has come out of the day is the fact that this new expansion will mark EVE Online’s return to store shelves. For a long time now, EVE has been available only as a download. When this expansion launches, the complete game will be heading to store shelves. This is being done in partnership with Atari. The box art that we were shown had the games for windows marking on the top.

This expansion will also introduce a new player experience… Not a “new game experience” that has become so infamous in MMO history, but an actual new experience for new players. The goal is to make the game more accessible, more quickly. The developers assured us that they wouldn’t be dumbing the game down, but rather attempting to remove some of the barrier to entry of the game.

This unnamed expansion will also introduce Epic Quest strings to the game that will take players from quest to quest. The catch here is that success or failure in any given quest will actually effect the experience that you have.

This expansion, which we had expected to come in the summer of 2009 will actually hit in March 10th, 2009, only four months from today.

The Future Beyond What We Know Now

We know that CCP has been a growing company and that they now have between 300 and 400 employees working across three different offices and on numerous project. What we have learned today is that the company is at least temporarily narrowing its focus to point almost primarily at EVE Online, with 300 of their total number of employees now dedicated to the company’s flagship game. What this means for the as-yet-unannounced World of Darkness MMO is unclear for the moment.

During the presentation, the company’s CEO told us that the Walking in Stations feature should hit within 2009.

The company also hinted today at some ideas that they have been tossing around for the further future of the game. One of the possibilities that we were shown was an idea that would see close navigation within an asteroid that would require joystick control.

Another part of the presentation focused on the company’s plans to grow to allow for planetary interaction, including the possibility of a future ground game.

We will certainly have more information available for you as the FanFest rounds up, including full videos from a number of the different presentations that we have seen. As usual, MMORPG.com will continue to follow this story as it develops, now, back to work.

More EVE Online Features:

One Jump Home - The Grind Column added on Tuesday February 07
One Jump Home - Across the Universe Column added on Tuesday January 24
One Jump Home - War Rages On Column added on Tuesday January 10

More Announcements:

Earth Eternal - Earth Eternal Returns! Announcement added on Thursday July 21
Rift - State of the Game Producer's Letter Announcement added on Thursday July 14
Scarlet Legacy - Exclusive Screens, Art & Video Announcement added on Wednesday April 27

More Features:

Game Face - Taking On Eternity Vault's Droid XRR-3 Media added on Thursday February 09
The Secret World - Are the Floodgates Opening? Column added on Thursday February 09
The Secret World - Deck Templates Dev Journal added on Thursday February 09
 
 
Shadow786 writes:

Great News - cant wait ^^

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11/08/08 11:54:46 AM
 
Dulain writes:

FIXED LINK

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11/08/08 12:15:44 PM
 
Kyleran writes:

Damn, looks like I won't be playing any of the other new games coming out next year.

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11/08/08 12:25:00 PM
 
Szark writes:

It was a photo finish, and unfortunately we lost and the laptop battery died before we could post the link. 

The link should work properly now.

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11/08/08 12:26:47 PM
 
metalhead980 writes:

OMG! planetary flight

If these guys add a ground game to Eve i'll never have to play another MMO.... ever!

Great time to be a Eve player, so many good features coming in the near future.

This game has limitless possibilities and in my opinion that's the way it should be in every mmo.

 

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11/08/08 1:50:29 PM
 
Danag writes:

Been playing EVE since 2006 now. It's the only MMO that's kept me this long, and I don't plan on leaving any time in the foreseeable future.

Walking in Stations, Atmospheric flight, quests, customizable Tech 3 ships (mmmmm... lem'me wipe the drool, LOL), it all sounds tasty to me, :)

Other MMO-owners could seriously take a lesson from CCP.

Offer something different and reap the benefits of one of the most dedicated player base ever.

Keep it coming CCP, I'll be here waiting, :) :)


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11/08/08 2:18:39 PM
 
Grifin writes:

         Dam, have spent years playing this game.And have learned to loath most of whats been done to it.

In fact have totaly managed to ignore it late'ly removing it from my hard drive.And now ya have to go and do

this.

Luckly I have a year or so to load it back up.

Indeavor to persevere

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11/08/08 2:35:28 PM
 
Ozmodan writes:

 

Originally posted by Grifin

         Dam, have spent years playing this game.And have learned to loath most of whats been done to it.

In fact have totaly managed to ignore it late'ly removing it from my hard drive.And now ya have to go and do

this.

Luckly I have a year or so to load it back up.

Indeavor to persevere


 

Just wondering how you can loath what has been done to it?  It is a far better game today than it was, I can't imagine anyone disagreeing with that either.  It is still a very harsh universe.  If your favorite fotm configuration got changed, that is just too bad, it is called balance.

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11/08/08 2:43:58 PM
 
xsarkaix writes:

Hey I am a new player and i like the game alot I just find it hard to find a good community and vent using corps u guys no of

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11/08/08 2:50:43 PM
 
brenth writes:

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve

non-pvpers are just blood in the water to the pvp gankers that harass you and destroy your ships that may take you weeks to buy.

most non-pvpers get fustrated and cancel in just a few months and there are no large non-pvp guilds  if a non-pvp guild gets too large they get war declared on them and become fare game 24/7  this means you either become pvp  or you sit in a station doing nothing for a week (if not more) or you cancel and go to another game where you can play in relative peace.

eve is still a very nitch game that is why they have so few subscribers

STARTREK ONLINE will get more subscribers on their first day than eve has

this new ship construction thing is a direct responce to STO ship system

the wormholes will really only be for PVPers because they will destroy anyone else that isnt a pvp template like them and you can never catch up  you will be stuck with the same noob universe that hasnt changed since release.

EVE looks prety but the universe is dead and boring and the quests are as fun as a tax audit.

some day maby the icelandic brain will thaw out and they will realize how bad they are messing up (not as bad as sony but prety bad)

save your money and wait for STO.

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11/08/08 2:54:03 PM
 
Grifin writes:

lol, baby sitting.just out of beta it was a free for all.you could take someone out and actually have a chance to out run ccp.People would actually use ccp to gank other players by tricking them into firing on you putting some outside the box thinking into the game.Not now you are dead if you mess with them..At one time I'd almost maxed all my time skills,And of course its impossible now. I just fill that combat has been taken out of the players hands and made a statistic.These are just some of my peaves and I dont expect others to agree.There are more but I'm just not willing to take the extra time to share, although I've answered them all in questionares sent to me . I rarely answer back so this will be my last post .But this game is always been close to my heart.

Indeavor to persevere

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11/08/08 3:25:16 PM
 
Mopar63 writes:
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve.


 

Well I read this far and ignore the rest of the post since the baove statement shows the poster does not have a clue. My girl friend is sitting next to me right now. Has done a ton of serious trade and mission running, inlcuding low sec in the 3 months she has been playing. She has been in ZERO PVP action the whole time.

I am running a lot in border regions, sec ratings from 0.4 to 0.1 and have in the last 3 months with this new character seen zero PVP.

Eve does have a ton of PVP but to say you will get ganked as soon as you start is just flat a lie. Oh I am sure a SMALL percentage might have seen some nub attacking them early but a serious gank, sorry but I call BS.

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11/08/08 3:44:41 PM
 
paulscott writes:

Hehehe when a corp war decced a newebie corp I was in I had a lot of fun warping in firing once then warping out before they could even get a lock

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11/08/08 4:01:38 PM
 
jinxit writes:

According to Utube  this is EVE's atmospheric flight ..according to a guy that posted about the  video you dont actually see the atmospheric part of the demo until 1:20.

www.youtube.com/watch

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11/08/08 4:28:15 PM
 
Nicoli writes:

that was an old concept prototype about 5-6 years old. They'll more and likely be doing the entire thing from scratch again.

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11/08/08 4:51:28 PM
 
AlloughN writes:

Very nice, way to make me drool CCP.

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11/08/08 5:01:31 PM
 
Krasher writes:
Originally posted by Mopar63
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve.


 

Well I read this far and ignore the rest of the post since the baove statement shows the poster does not have a clue. My girl friend is sitting next to me right now. Has done a ton of serious trade and mission running, inlcuding low sec in the 3 months she has been playing. She has been in ZERO PVP action the whole time.

I am running a lot in border regions, sec ratings from 0.4 to 0.1 and have in the last 3 months with this new character seen zero PVP.

Eve does have a ton of PVP but to say you will get ganked as soon as you start is just flat a lie. Oh I am sure a SMALL percentage might have seen some nub attacking them early but a serious gank, sorry but I call BS.

 

Well, good for your gf, but, have her leave carebear space...if she is not ransomed/destroyed within 30 mintes...let me know. I have been out of carebear space 3 and only 3 times. Lost 2 drakes, and raven...will never play this game again. No, you can not have my stuff, and yes, I will be careful not to let the door hit me in the ass on way out.

Eve servers a purpose...keeps the psychopaths off the street...thank god for Eve.

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11/08/08 5:13:03 PM
 
Minsc writes:
Originally posted by Krasher
Originally posted by Mopar63
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve.


 

Well I read this far and ignore the rest of the post since the baove statement shows the poster does not have a clue. My girl friend is sitting next to me right now. Has done a ton of serious trade and mission running, inlcuding low sec in the 3 months she has been playing. She has been in ZERO PVP action the whole time.

I am running a lot in border regions, sec ratings from 0.4 to 0.1 and have in the last 3 months with this new character seen zero PVP.

Eve does have a ton of PVP but to say you will get ganked as soon as you start is just flat a lie. Oh I am sure a SMALL percentage might have seen some nub attacking them early but a serious gank, sorry but I call BS.

 

Well, good for your gf, but, have her leave carebear space...if she is not ransomed/destroyed within 30 mintes...let me know. I have been out of carebear space 3 and only 3 times. Lost 2 drakes, and raven...will never play this game again. No, you can not have my stuff, and yes, I will be careful not to let the door hit me in the ass on way out.

Eve servers a purpose...keeps the psychopaths off the street...thank god for Eve.


 

You obviously missed the part where he said she was travelling in lowsec and he was running a lot of missions in 0.4-0.1 systems for months without getting attacked. Hmmm maybe you're spectacular powers or observation (or lack thereof) was the reason why you lost a ship everytime you ventured out of highsec.

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11/08/08 5:47:52 PM
 
Mopar63 writes:

So do you consider 0.2 carebear space? She flies in 0.2 and a 0.3 system most of the time right now. As for 0.0 well thats kind of a given. In fact in ANY MMO if you go to a specified PVP area it is a given. So are you suggesting she go to 0.0?

ALso the person I comment about had said within 30 minutes of beginning play. I really doubt you lost your ships that you listed within 30 minutes of beginning EVE, especially since I doubt you could fly them at that time.

Look you want to say 0.0 space is dangerous, well DUH! But to make a comment that the entire game is that way is a LIE.

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11/08/08 5:52:39 PM
 
Ravanos writes:
Originally posted by metalhead980

OMG! planetary flight

If these guys add a ground game to Eve i'll never have to play another MMO.... ever!

Great time to be a Eve player, so many good features coming in the near future.

This game has limitless possibilities and in my opinion that's the way it should be in every mmo.

 

yeah if they ever add a ground based avatar game I would be there in a heart beat. I love the idea and style of EVE but just something about ONLY being in a space ship just doesnt hold my interest.

but damn some great stuff there keep up the great work CCP, hopefully future developers will look at EVE and copy it instead of making another stupid WoW clone.

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11/08/08 5:58:04 PM
 
JeroKane writes:
Originally posted by Krasher

 

Well, good for your gf, but, have her leave carebear space...if she is not ransomed/destroyed within 30 mintes...let me know. I have been out of carebear space 3 and only 3 times. Lost 2 drakes, and raven...will never play this game again. No, you can not have my stuff, and yes, I will be careful not to let the door hit me in the ass on way out.

Eve servers a purpose...keeps the psychopaths off the street...thank god for Eve.


 

That's because you guys are always crying and smack talking and thus playing more and more into these pirate corps favor and give them more reason the wardec and gank you.

See. I have been in an Alliance with small corps. Couple mining corps and mission running corps and one corp doing some small PVP. Nothing fancy.

One day some pirate corp full of griefing kiddies war decced us and started harrasing us.

Rule number 1: Radio silence! They smack talk all the time, you don't! You keep silent and thus bore the hell out of them. Smack talk back and you do exactly what they want!

Rule number 2: Identify all those people from that pirate corp and add them to your friendlist. This way you know who and when they come online and when they enter your system. So you can do your daily bussiness and warp to a station when they enter your sector.

Rule number 3: Scrape ISK together within your alliance and hire a pro Merc Corp. Average price is around 300-500mil. ISK. Not much for a reasonable active Alliance.

See, I have been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years and we have been in this kind of situation before.

We hired a famous Merc Corp. And these guys were actually nice and took us on a ride and showed us how to PVP without much risk. Like good fitted cheap frigates. Because we were really inexperienced in PVP within EVE Online!

They took us on the hunt and we had great fun getting back onto that pirate corp and ganked back. HARD!

That pirate corp lost hundreds of millions of ISK worth (if not billions) on Tech2 ships, componets and implants! And we lost just a dozen cheap frigates and some cruisers and maybe a T1 battleship or two.

Our hired Merc Corp had so much fun in getting these guys, that they wardecced them for another week free of charge.

After that. The message was send and we were NEVER EVER war decced again!

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Second. If you are new to EVE Online. Then you join an NPC corp of your faction by default. And as long as you are part of an NPC corp you are pretty much safe in High Sec space nor can you be War Decced.

You got plenty of room to learn to play the game and have fun in lot of what EVE has to offer.

You can run plenty of missions and do lots of mining. Get your skill training up past the million SP and specialise. In a month you can get some decent specialisation. And also earn lots of ISK to build a good buffer.

Insuring all your ships is also VERY IMPORTANT! I lost count in how many people forget about this and keep crying in losing their ships and ISK because they forget to insure their ships!!

EVE Online has become very Newbie friendly. It's just not an easy to get into game in wich everything is handed to you on a platter like World of Warcraft or Warhammer Online for that matter.

You actually have to spend time and read on things to learn the game! That's what a Sandbox MMO is all about!

So yes. If you want everything handed to you on a platter. Then this game is NOT for you!

Cheers

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11/08/08 6:07:17 PM
 
Krayzjoel writes:

I cant wait for all oif this to occur! :)

T3 customizable ships is very alluring and Im wondering what type of skills I'll need! :)

Eve online has become the 2nd longest mmo Ive played and it keeps getting better!

 

 

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11/08/08 6:08:36 PM
 
Kyleran writes:
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve

non-pvpers are just blood in the water to the pvp gankers that harass you and destroy your ships that may take you weeks to buy.

most non-pvpers get fustrated and cancel in just a few months and there are no large non-pvp guilds  if a non-pvp guild gets too large they get war declared on them and become fare game 24/7  this means you either become pvp  or you sit in a station doing nothing for a week (if not more) or you cancel and go to another game where you can play in relative peace.

eve is still a very nitch game that is why they have so few subscribers

STARTREK ONLINE will get more subscribers on their first day than eve has

this new ship construction thing is a direct responce to STO ship system

the wormholes will really only be for PVPers because they will destroy anyone else that isnt a pvp template like them and you can never catch up  you will be stuck with the same noob universe that hasnt changed since release.

EVE looks prety but the universe is dead and boring and the quests are as fun as a tax audit.

some day maby the icelandic brain will thaw out and they will realize how bad they are messing up (not as bad as sony but prety bad)

save your money and wait for STO.

 

Sigh, this person has no clue what he's talking about, best if folks just put him on ignore.

EVE keeps getting better and better for gamers who are up to the challenge. 

Not everyone is.

 

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11/08/08 6:15:47 PM
 
Shohadaku writes:
Originally posted by Krasher
Originally posted by Mopar63
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve.


 

Well I read this far and ignore the rest of the post since the baove statement shows the poster does not have a clue. My girl friend is sitting next to me right now. Has done a ton of serious trade and mission running, inlcuding low sec in the 3 months she has been playing. She has been in ZERO PVP action the whole time.

I am running a lot in border regions, sec ratings from 0.4 to 0.1 and have in the last 3 months with this new character seen zero PVP.

Eve does have a ton of PVP but to say you will get ganked as soon as you start is just flat a lie. Oh I am sure a SMALL percentage might have seen some nub attacking them early but a serious gank, sorry but I call BS.

 

Well, good for your gf, but, have her leave carebear space...if she is not ransomed/destroyed within 30 mintes...let me know. I have been out of carebear space 3 and only 3 times. Lost 2 drakes, and raven...will never play this game again. No, you can not have my stuff, and yes, I will be careful not to let the door hit me in the ass on way out.

Eve servers a purpose...keeps the psychopaths off the street...thank god for Eve.

Cry some more about being careless.
 

You complain about PVP yet you travel into PVP areas and cry someone PVP's you.

EVE is a game where you can't carelessly stroll into any star system. It is very easy to avoid PVP by staying in secure space. Which has MANY systems.

That's like saying your a KKK guy walking alone through Compton and wondering why you get jumped.

THINK!

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11/08/08 8:44:08 PM
 
Flute writes:

I love that EVE just keeps on getting better.  Space MMO's are not for everyone, but there is so much flexibility in EVE that you can make your own fun, and we don't have to pay for improvements. 

And no, you don't "get PvP'd straight away"; if you want to stay safe you can.  I've lost one ship in over two years ... sure I'm not a PvP player in EVE but I still really enjoy my gametime.  Of course, the no PvP thing is going to change ... after all, stealth bombers are not that good for missions 

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11/08/08 11:09:06 PM
 
aretina writes:
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve

non-pvpers are just blood in the water to the pvp gankers that harass you and destroy your ships that may take you weeks to buy.


Lol ? I was playng eve for quite some time on non-pvp way i was attacked ONCE by my stupid mistake only , i resubscribed again not loong ago and i still play non pvp way and i have 0 problems with situations you subscribe here

 

probably a so i leave you alone.

 

I just must say i totally love upcoming changes , especially customizable ships

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11/09/08 4:14:54 AM
 
Raystorm writes:

I love it when people cry about losing ships. Okay. So you go out to 0.0 and instantly get ganked. Right. You're an idiot. Seriously.

Eve is a TEAM game. You're meant to fly around in fleets if you're going pvp. Think of it this way. You're a soldier in hostile territory. You're walking down the road and looking at all the cool stuff. BAM, you get shot in the head, and scream GANKED! 

Bottom line is, if you're SMART, you won't get killed. If you're an idiot, then you're just fodder for the rest of us. Is it smart to jump into a 0.0 bottle neck system which is PROBABLY going to have a hostile bubble camp? No. You deserve to lose your stuff if you don't think. Period.

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11/09/08 4:22:50 AM
 
babac writes:
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve

non-pvpers are just blood in the water to the pvp gankers that harass you and destroy your ships that may take you weeks to buy.

most non-pvpers get fustrated and cancel in just a few months and there are no large non-pvp guilds  if a non-pvp guild gets too large they get war declared on them and become fare game 24/7  this means you either become pvp  or you sit in a station doing nothing for a week (if not more) or you cancel and go to another game where you can play in relative peace.

eve is still a very nitch game that is why they have so few subscribers

STARTREK ONLINE will get more subscribers on their first day than eve has

this new ship construction thing is a direct responce to STO ship system

the wormholes will really only be for PVPers because they will destroy anyone else that isnt a pvp template like them and you can never catch up  you will be stuck with the same noob universe that hasnt changed since release.

EVE looks prety but the universe is dead and boring and the quests are as fun as a tax audit.

some day maby the icelandic brain will thaw out and they will realize how bad they are messing up (not as bad as sony but prety bad)

save your money and wait for STO.

lol@you, STO fanboy

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11/09/08 6:48:12 AM
 
Queinai writes:


Originally posted by xsarkaix
Hey I am a new player and i like the game alot I just find it hard to find a good community and vent using corps u guys no of

I would suggest the EVE corp and alliance recruitment forum if you have not already done so. Also EVE University exists for new pod pilots, keep them in mind. Welcome to EVE.

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11/09/08 7:54:45 AM
 
Kelldore writes:
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve

non-pvpers are just blood in the water to the pvp gankers that harass you and destroy your ships that may take you weeks to buy.

most non-pvpers get fustrated and cancel in just a few months and there are no large non-pvp guilds  if a non-pvp guild gets too large they get war declared on them and become fare game 24/7  this means you either become pvp  or you sit in a station doing nothing for a week (if not more) or you cancel and go to another game where you can play in relative peace.

eve is still a very nitch game that is why they have so few subscribers

STARTREK ONLINE will get more subscribers on their first day than eve has

this new ship construction thing is a direct responce to STO ship system

the wormholes will really only be for PVPers because they will destroy anyone else that isnt a pvp template like them and you can never catch up  you will be stuck with the same noob universe that hasnt changed since release.

EVE looks prety but the universe is dead and boring and the quests are as fun as a tax audit.

some day maby the icelandic brain will thaw out and they will realize how bad they are messing up (not as bad as sony but prety bad)

save your money and wait for STO.


 

 Ive been playing eve since 2004 (4+ years) and i can tell you A. New players can kill older eve players..there is none of the mythical (zomg he has more skillpoints then me oh noez flee),  i have lost ships to cheap frigs and cruisers fielded by newer players.

The so called constant pvp, in a way is true but you cry the fact that new players expect to get ganked as soon as they start. Not true. Unless you do go into low sec on 0.0 space..well thats just an ass kicking waiting to happen. And i would expect to get ganked. low sec and 0 space has better missions and better rewards, but carries higher risks, besides much 0.0 space is either syndicate or alliance controlled so youll get ganked anyhow just because they are defended by any particular entity that roams there unless you have sorted out standings, have a fleet of your own or can scout systems ahead for danger.

The players that do cry about it usually go into low sec and 0 space alone adn do get gangked. Eve highly encourages people to group together, that is how you truly survive and enjoy the game. Eve is not a game that holds your hand and it is harsh and doesnt baby you every step of the way.

As for the game universe not ever changing..Not true either. Weve seen last year just how Goonswarm was able to inflict heavy loses on Band Of Brothers and their coalition. How mercenary corporations can affect an outcome of a war to in regards to the highest bidder. Faction warfare has made high sec pvp more possible besides war's between corps and alliances.  Yes the missions can be somewhat dull, but i have not done a mission in almost  4years, with the amount of things you can do in the universe i never found i had to.

I look f forward to star trek online but the two games are so vastly different that im not to concerned about sto and eve competing head on.

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11/09/08 9:28:25 AM
 
Kelldore writes:
Originally posted by Queinai

 


Originally posted by xsarkaix
Hey I am a new player and i like the game alot I just find it hard to find a good community and vent using corps u guys no of

 

I would suggest the EVE corp and alliance recruitment forum if you have not already done so. Also EVE University exists for new pod pilots, keep them in mind. Welcome to EVE.


 

I would check out "Eve University" they are a big alliance that helps players new and old with the game. They are a decent bunch of players so i recommend checking them out. You can find more here http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=521860.

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11/09/08 9:42:51 AM
 
Alexandruis writes:

damn, while reading this, all i said is: "Damn cant wait to get back."  EVE is one and only, its just diffrent then other games...

 

the possibility of ground game,... and to be able to modify ships by your own way,... ufff,... alot will happen in eve :)

 

 

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11/09/08 3:18:20 PM
 
Khangor writes:

Eve University is a great corp for players new to the game. They will literally teach you anything you could possibly want to know about Eve.

I am biased as I'm currently a member.

Oh, and I'm all tingly thinking abour what CCP has in store for the game (to get this back on topic).

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11/09/08 7:01:09 PM
 
Obidom writes:

This news has me toying with the thought of renewing my subscription to the game.. I still have a ton of items, Isk and around 6 millions Skill point to play with,,,,mmm T3 customisable ships

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11/10/08 6:20:00 AM
 
Howatch writes:
Originally posted by brenth

most non-pvpers get fustrated and cancel in just a few months and there are no large non-pvp guilds  if a non-pvp guild gets too large they get war declared on them and become fare game 24/7  this means you either become pvp  or you sit in a station doing nothing for a week (if not more) or you cancel and go to another game where you can play in relative peace.

 

I look forward to getting my hand on next expansion of EVE after the quantum one even if that one also has some goodies for me.

It will be lovely to be able to make customized tech III ships even if I wonder if I can afford it in four more months as I spend all the ISK I had on gallente Kronos marauder and gallente carrier skill book and the new Capital industrial ships skill book last week so I am broke atm.

Brenth did hit the nail on the head in one thing and that is wardec of non-pvp corporation when they get bigger. I did build 20+ corp and as soon as it got to 25 members we got wardec after wardec and as we where not ready for pvp and did not want to hire mercs to give boost to that form of  business in EVE then we where doomed. After the fourth wardec most had left corp and the others were getting very bored of staying in stations most of time so in reality my corp was bankrupt in both members and money.  

Now I have only very small corp going and do not recruit any new members which is a shame as we had been very active in  helping new pilot in EVE getting a good start. Well that is part of living in EVE and I have learned one more lesson on how to play EVE. 

I love the game, have been playing it for more than 3  years and I will hopefully enjoy it for many more years to come.  

Keep up the good work CCP

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11/10/08 8:34:23 AM
 
AlloughN writes:

I play StarQuest cause I like ALWAYS being a character, no matter ship or planet, and I like the RP.

But EVE is a lot better for casual playing, not to mention graphics. If I only have like 30 or 40 minutes, I usually jump on EVE instead.

PvP isn't all that unbalanced in EVE if the noob uses his common sense. I was only in a Punisher and my 10th day of free trial when I first got PvP'd by what this guy is calling a noob jumper, but I had knowingly went into a low sec system, and I used my common sense, and  handed the guy his rear in pieces.

I don't play much, but after 3 years it adds up, and now its the groups of 2 or more I have to watch out for.

 

Don't listen to "Noobs stay away", try EVE, and use common sense. Its a lot of fun for the casual player, and the graphics are awesome.

 

((being thats coming from a correspondent from a rival game... its gotta be gospel))

 

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11/10/08 6:43:49 PM
 
JumpingJax writes:

 

 To the griper there are a few thing to note.      I am not the best pilot - I hate PVP in any game especially in one where death means the loss of stuff -  Guess that is how it should be of course -  just don't like to die.

 

I started Eve a few years ago, built a 40 - 50 member non-pvp newbie corp.   Of course we got war declared. We fought through it, (mostly by hiding)  then got war declared again.  This went on for about 3 months before we all just said the heck with it and broke apart and went our seperate ways.

That's to bad as I really enjoyed that corp.

 

More recently I have traveled in to 0.0.   YES you loose ships,  even though I normally avoid danger - I have lost a couple (for me) nice ships.  BUT  I can make a lot more money in 0.0 space.    1million credits per kill can add up very quickly :)  Not to mention (as I'm a trader) the totally crazy prices people will pay for stuff on the markets out there.     

Oh yeah I never buy insurance.  So far I don't see the point.  I buy ships usually pretty cheap and as a rule I have as much or nearly as much equipment on my ship then  it cost.   Guess that wouldn't be so true for my battleship - but I just hate insurance.   Insurance companies are corrupt evil companies that take all your money and then when it comes to pay up screw you and  scream for a government bail out (opps sorry wrong subject).  

 

I've left the game a few times and returned over the years.   But I always return.    I always get in to the economic side of games and EVE by far has the most advanced market system of any game out there.

Right now my account is canceled for financial reasons - needed to save my 30 dollars a month (had 2 accounts)  - BUT I will be coming back soon.

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11/11/08 8:40:05 AM
 
Corden writes:

EVE is looking better every day. An amazing game...

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11/11/08 9:16:16 AM
 
jimmyman99 writes:

What exactly does "The catch here is that success or failure in any given quest will actually effect the experience that you have".

Oh and I partially agree with the person who said stay away for new people. Yes, the game has lots of ganking, its PvP oriented. As a pure PvE, i was basically locked out of all the good stuff in 0.4 and lower. Yeah you guys may be lucky and dont see any action, but when I jump in 0.4 and someone starts locking on to me, my heart just sinks in becuase i basically carry all my stuff with me. If i lose my ship, i bump back a week or two. I dont know how to fight, i dont know how to PvP and I can't join any decent corp because my hours are low and irregular (RL comes first).

But, to be fair, you cant say new players should avoid this. New players who preffer PvE should avoid this. But if you dont mind PvP, this game will be for you. Too bad i dont like PvP, i really liked the graphics and the atmosphere of Eve. But, i will never resub again because of CCP dubious conduct regarding ghost training.

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11/11/08 10:26:12 PM
 
Flute writes:

Jumpingjax you should read up on the revised game-time system ... buying game time for ISK rather than US$ might be an ideal solution for you.  I love that CCP is trying to enhance that aspect - too many games try to pretend real money trading doesn't exist or is "under control", rather than just putting in appropriate tools such that people who want to go (or need to go) that way can, in safety.

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11/12/08 1:26:54 AM
 
Suraknar writes:

EVE is a Sandbox, PvP oriented game. It followed on the steps of UO and basically Combined that with the Classic "Elite", and delivered this on an MMOG Platter.

The Game's Premise is amaising, the sheer possibilites are mindblowing. I beta tested it and been playing it on and off since launch.

Why Off and On? Because,

A - Even with the above said, I find it is not accessible to new players, small groups (guilds) that want to try it, need to play for a year or two before they can accomplish anything, beyond running missions in Empire Space, having Role Play Events or Playing Cat and Mouse with Pirates in Low Sec, (or be Pirates in Low sec themselves).

B - The PvP Combat system, is actually not that enjoyable, itmay sound exciting flying Space ships and formingFleets but in reality it is not and an Engagement can end in Seconds. Even if you have a Battleships, it can blow up in a matter of seconds in combat.

Large Scale Combat is all about Blobing, Small Scale Combat degerates to Nanoing and ECM/ECCM (the equivalent if you will to the mechanics involved with combat known as Crowd Control in more mainstream MMOGs).

You will not experience a prolongued Battle and Opperations in your ships while some battles can rage for days, from the individual's perspective it is more about being lucky and surviving in the Blob encounters than actually shooting and taking fire in a big ship.

--

That is my biggest disapointment with the Space combat of EVE. There is so many different ways to render your enemy unable to fight you and the ships are so specialised, that you could literally find yourself wearing a smoking in a beach party, or Hooola Shirts and Shorts in the Opera.

And the people who have been there for a long time know the tricks know the gear, and jave both the player Skill and Character Skills and they will enjoy and laugh about blowing you out of the sky and then even watch you being upset about it.

There is a mean people that play that game, I actually laughed when someone said in these comments that EVE has as purpose to keep the psychopaths off the streets, I laughed because it is true to some extent but also because it is usually the perception of mainstream MMOG players when they come in contact with a sandbox PvP oriented game.

In reality, it is part of EVE's world, there is good people and bad people just like in the real world, yet at least, EVE succeeds in offering an alternate world, and not just a themepark game with rides to repeat till your mind become numb.

If in the future they can address the Combat and how it all works to make for some better experience that could be reminescent of what we read in Sci-Fi books or watch in Sci-fi movies (B5, ST, SW etc), then it has most of the other elements to appeal to many many more people.

Till then however, many people will be playing other games, andhoping to find that which they seek in them, I look forward to STO myself, and hope it will offer a better Combat Experience, albeit I am pretty sure it will not offer the premise of EVE.

However, in the end, what many people seek is fun and entertainment, running a Corp of 5000+ people like if it were a full time Job is really not everyone's cup of tea.

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11/12/08 1:46:54 AM
 
brenth writes:

 

Well I read this far and ignore the rest of the post since the baove statement shows the poster does not have a clue. My girl friend is sitting next to me right now. Has done a ton of serious trade and mission running, inlcuding low sec in the 3 months she has been playing. She has been in ZERO PVP action the whole time.

I am running a lot in border regions, sec ratings from 0.4 to 0.1 and have in the last 3 months with this new character seen zero PVP.

Eve does have a ton of PVP but to say you will get ganked as soon as you start is just flat a lie. Oh I am sure a SMALL percentage might have seen some nub attacking them early but a serious gank, sorry but I call BS.


 

ive sit in the noob astroid fields and watched noobs get scamed and podded by griefers.

if your saying you operated in and out of .1-.4 for 3 months and seen no PVP then you are the lier.

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11/12/08 5:04:08 AM
 
brenth writes:
 Ive been playing eve since 2004 (4+ years) and i can tell you A. New players can kill older eve players..there is none of the mythical (zomg he has more skillpoints then me oh noez flee),  i have lost ships to cheap frigs and cruisers fielded by newer players.

The so called constant pvp, in a way is true but you cry the fact that new players expect to get ganked as soon as they start. Not true. Unless you do go into low sec on 0.0 space..well thats just an ass kicking waiting to happen. And i would expect to get ganked. low sec and 0 space has better missions and better rewards, but carries higher risks, besides much 0.0 space is either syndicate or alliance controlled so youll get ganked anyhow just because they are defended by any particular entity that roams there unless you have sorted out standings, have a fleet of your own or can scout systems ahead for danger.

The players that do cry about it usually go into low sec and 0 space alone adn do get gangked. Eve highly encourages people to group together, that is how you truly survive and enjoy the game. Eve is not a game that holds your hand and it is harsh and doesnt baby you every step of the way.

As for the game universe not ever changing..Not true either. Weve seen last year just how Goonswarm was able to inflict heavy loses on Band Of Brothers and their coalition. How mercenary corporations can affect an outcome of a war to in regards to the highest bidder. Faction warfare has made high sec pvp more possible besides war's between corps and alliances.  Yes the missions can be somewhat dull, but i have not done a mission in almost  4years, with the amount of things you can do in the universe i never found i had to.

I look f forward to star trek online but the two games are so vastly different that im not to concerned about sto and eve competing head on.

new players do get ganked right in 1.0 astroid fields ive seen both an ore bait scam, and a kamakazi so dont try to tell me it doesnt exist.
 

many people can only be on for short periods of play and cant sit around for hours waiting for this mythical fleet your talking about even then you can only go where they go and do what they do which 9 times out of 10 its PVP related.

as for a changing universe im talking content not some first person shooter gank fest  how has the content in RENS changed since release?  comets? nebulas? blackholes?   so far the only thing ive seen is retexturing  especially when it comes to non-pvp players stuck in highsec space.

for non-pvpers your basicly traped by the pvpers in the noob area known as highsec space your mining the same 4 low types of noob ore  and forced to pay exorbatant prices to the PVP corps for the higher ores that only their guilds can access   as for 500 million to rent mercinaries thats another PVPer play  for "protecton" money  500 mill would take an average player MONTHS to acumulate  unless they use VISA.

PVPers ruin the casual players enjoyment of eve and forces them to either put up with the limited play or cancel their account and play something else till a casual player friendly game is released, currently that looks like STO  I have my resurvations about STO as well because franchise games are nearly allways very poorly designed taking advantage of fans to make their money.

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11/12/08 5:40:08 AM
 
brenth writes:
 the possibility of ground game,... and to be able to modify ships by your own way,... ufff,... alot will happen in eve :)


 

nasa will walk on mars before eve players will walk on planets,, and as for  ship components  dont hold your breath for this decade.   go back and read some of the early  promises that still havent materilized

the only reason ccp came out with ships with subcomponents  is that star trek online came out with that as a feature first. prople have been requesting stuff like that since eve was released

I just cant believe that ccp is spending so much time on ambulation and new skins and tiny little lights that you rarly see any way  instead of adding content to make the game play better 

just what we need is an E&B style space stations,, at east they hade a nice little misson computer

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11/12/08 5:51:28 AM
 
brenth writes:

B - The PvP Combat system, is actually not that enjoyable, itmay sound exciting flying Space ships and formingFleets but in reality it is not and an Engagement can end in Seconds. Even if you have a Battleships, it can blow up in a matter of seconds in combat.

And the people who have been there for a long time know the tricks know the gear, and jave both the player Skill and Character Skills and they will enjoy and laugh about blowing you out of the sky and then even watch you being upset about it.

There is a mean people that play that game, I actually laughed when someone said in these comments that EVE has as purpose to keep the psychopaths off the streets, I laughed because it is true to some extent but also because it is usually the perception of mainstream MMOG players when they come in contact with a sandbox PvP oriented game.

If in the future they can address the Combat and how it all works to make for some better experience that could be reminescent of what we read in Sci-Fi books or watch in Sci-fi movies (B5, ST, SW etc), then it has most of the other elements to appeal to many many more people.

Till then however, many people will be playing other games, andhoping to find that which they seek in them, I look forward to STO myself, and hope it will offer a better Combat Experience, albeit I am pretty sure it will not offer the premise of EVE.


 

it is true that you can travel for 30-90 minutes only to be podded 5-10 seconds after entering a battle area getting killed in 1-2 shots from a ship that is 10x-20x out of your range.

the ship combat its self is very 2D  for a 3D universe   only a single shield and omni direction guns  and no astroid or planet tactics  so its alot like 2 guys on a football field spraying each other with guns kind of "spray and pray"  oh and  guards have no direct way to protect unarmed ships being escourted, this means that you could have 4 guard battle ships and still be ganked before the battleships can respond.

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11/12/08 6:23:39 AM
 
firefly2003 writes:

One of the few MMOs I will still play and would still in the future just kinda burnt out on EVE for a bit though :P I will be back though in time for these new features... good job too bad other MMOs cant take the cue from this game make the game open for always new additions and features

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11/13/08 12:53:31 AM
 
Flute writes:

Brenth ... chill out~!

As for the whole "you'll get PvP'd and ganked!", I've played for years as a casual player ... and never been ganked in safe space.  Maybe because I actually did the tutorial all the way through...

I do like other games' new features prodding older games into making improvements and changes.  WoW has had a lot of features added over the past year due to other games, which without others might never have found their way into the "to do" list rather than languishing on the "wish list".   EVE has added a lot more people-capacity to its corporate structure, so assuming they can keep their US partnership venture throught the current fiscal crunch, I expect to see a real increase in their turn-around rate for implementation of ideas.  Even if they started out as other people's ideas

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11/13/08 3:53:28 AM
 
Aramanu writes:

I'll come back to eve once they remove the RTS point and click system and (or) add twitch-real-time controls.

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11/14/08 11:01:16 AM
 
L0k1- writes:
Originally posted by Aramanu

I'll come back to eve once they remove the RTS point and click system and (or) add twitch-real-time controls.

 

i highly doubt that will ever happen since the that sort of movement is a core mechanic of the game.

 

if you want twitch based combat in space, then you should check out Jumpgate Evolution :)

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11/15/08 10:02:52 AM
 
velimirius writes:

but thing is that jumpgate will be 0 for EvE.

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11/15/08 10:14:27 AM
 
CyberWiz writes:
Originally posted by brenth

NEW PLAYERS STAY AWAY FROM EVE ONLINE!

unless you like free for all PVP because you will begin to getting ganked within hours of starting eve

non-pvpers are just blood in the water to the pvp gankers that harass you and destroy your ships that may take you weeks to buy.

most non-pvpers get fustrated and cancel in just a few months and there are no large non-pvp guilds  if a non-pvp guild gets too large they get war declared on them and become fare game 24/7  this means you either become pvp  or you sit in a station doing nothing for a week (if not more) or you cancel and go to another game where you can play in relative peace.

eve is still a very nitch game that is why they have so few subscribers

STARTREK ONLINE will get more subscribers on their first day than eve has

this new ship construction thing is a direct responce to STO ship system

the wormholes will really only be for PVPers because they will destroy anyone else that isnt a pvp template like them and you can never catch up  you will be stuck with the same noob universe that hasnt changed since release.

EVE looks prety but the universe is dead and boring and the quests are as fun as a tax audit.

some day maby the icelandic brain will thaw out and they will realize how bad they are messing up (not as bad as sony but prety bad)

save your money and wait for STO.


 

Haha, you have no clue.

However, I will enlighten you :p

First of all, EVE Online may be a niche game, but it has 250k subs, which makes it the second largest premium mmorpg in the West, only surpassed by WoW.

Secondly, if you can't handle it, don't play it, but stop crying and telling new players should not play it. A friend of mine recently started, and is having fun, and haven't been killed yet.

And DUH, of course you need a PVP setup to fly in PVP areas ...

And lol about STO, it will be WoW in space, and I don't care if it will get more subs ( which it probably won't ).

Actually EVE Online IS a world, STO won't be.

 

 

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1/18/09 3:23:02 PM
 
CyberWiz writes:
Originally posted by jimmyman99

What exactly does "The catch here is that success or failure in any given quest will actually effect the experience that you have".

Oh and I partially agree with the person who said stay away for new people. Yes, the game has lots of ganking, its PvP oriented. As a pure PvE, i was basically locked out of all the good stuff in 0.4 and lower. Yeah you guys may be lucky and dont see any action, but when I jump in 0.4 and someone starts locking on to me, my heart just sinks in becuase i basically carry all my stuff with me. If i lose my ship, i bump back a week or two. I dont know how to fight, i dont know how to PvP and I can't join any decent corp because my hours are low and irregular (RL comes first).

But, to be fair, you cant say new players should avoid this. New players who preffer PvE should avoid this. But if you dont mind PvP, this game will be for you. Too bad i dont like PvP, i really liked the graphics and the atmosphere of Eve. But, i will never resub again because of CCP dubious conduct regarding ghost training.


 

Dubious conduct regarding ghost training?

Ghost training was just stupid, and while they let the "bug" or "feature" exist for a long time, they eventually decided that it was unfair and probably cost them too much money, and removed it, and I agree 100%

No other premium mmorpg let people train when they don't have a subscription. ( cept for trials )

Quitting EVE for that is stupid imho, but it is your loss.

 

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1/18/09 3:33:58 PM
 
CyberWiz writes:
Originally posted by brenth

B - The PvP Combat system, is actually not that enjoyable, itmay sound exciting flying Space ships and formingFleets but in reality it is not and an Engagement can end in Seconds. Even if you have a Battleships, it can blow up in a matter of seconds in combat.

And the people who have been there for a long time know the tricks know the gear, and jave both the player Skill and Character Skills and they will enjoy and laugh about blowing you out of the sky and then even watch you being upset about it.

There is a mean people that play that game, I actually laughed when someone said in these comments that EVE has as purpose to keep the psychopaths off the streets, I laughed because it is true to some extent but also because it is usually the perception of mainstream MMOG players when they come in contact with a sandbox PvP oriented game.

If in the future they can address the Combat and how it all works to make for some better experience that could be reminescent of what we read in Sci-Fi books or watch in Sci-fi movies (B5, ST, SW etc), then it has most of the other elements to appeal to many many more people.

Till then however, many people will be playing other games, andhoping to find that which they seek in them, I look forward to STO myself, and hope it will offer a better Combat Experience, albeit I am pretty sure it will not offer the premise of EVE.


 

it is true that you can travel for 30-90 minutes only to be podded 5-10 seconds after entering a battle area getting killed in 1-2 shots from a ship that is 10x-20x out of your range.

the ship combat its self is very 2D  for a 3D universe   only a single shield and omni direction guns  and no astroid or planet tactics  so its alot like 2 guys on a football field spraying each other with guns kind of "spray and pray"  oh and  guards have no direct way to protect unarmed ships being escourted, this means that you could have 4 guard battle ships and still be ganked before the battleships can respond.


 

whatever brenth, you dont like the game, fine, but it is currently one of the few mmorpg's that offer a World instead of a game, which is what you were looking for if I read your signature right.

 

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