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DonnieBrasco
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11/02/09 6:47:19 AM#61
Originally posted by Guillermo197
Your graphics card is more then fine and powerful enough. What other hardware do you have? Your CPU? Amount of RAM? that kind of thing. Cheers I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB Edit: an even better comparison: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1445.html Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is. |
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11/02/09 6:56:45 AM#62
Originally posted by DonnieBrasco I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB
It should still be able to run FE on average setting. Depending he has the 512MB version of the 8800GTS. But I am expecting he has either a poor CPU or too little RAM in his PC that might be the actual problem.
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DonnieBrasco
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11/02/09 6:58:52 AM#63
Originally posted by Guillermo197 I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB
It should still be able to run FE on average setting. Depending he has the 512MB version of the 8800GTS. But I am expecting he has either a poor CPU or too little RAM in his PC that might be the actual problem.
With the 512 version one, I agree. We shall see if he replies :) DB Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is. |
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11/02/09 7:05:54 AM#64
Originally posted by DonnieBrasco
It should still be able to run FE on average setting. Depending he has the 512MB version of the 8800GTS. But I am expecting he has either a poor CPU or too little RAM in his PC that might be the actual problem.
With the 512 version one, I agree. We shall see if he replies :) DB Actually there is a 320mb version and a 640mb version The 512mb version is a totally different GPU (G92) and is quite a lot newer/faster
Sum of FPS Benchmarks Totals (Tomshardware) Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (512 MB) 994.50 Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (640 MB) 737.10 Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS (320 MB) 533.10
Last but not least, the 8800GT is a cheaper version (lower clocks, less shaders) of the 8800 GTS (512mb), it is a G92 GPU though. Anyway, no matter which of the 3 cards, it should be enough to run FE although FPS will differ quite a lot
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11/02/09 7:13:39 AM#65
Originally posted by DonnieBrasco I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market. I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. I think it is actually my CPU. I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part. BTW their min specs are as followed, Minimum Hardware Requirements CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son! Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.
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11/02/09 7:20:02 AM#66
Originally posted by Joker2240 I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market. I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. I think it is actually my CPU. I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part. BTW their min specs are as followed, Minimum Hardware Requirements CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son! Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.
Asus g50vt-x2 laptop. Far from godlike. No problems. People have more or less tolerance for different things and game setup does matter. It matters a lot. The game doesn't please you. That's fine but it doesn't take a godlike computer to run this in an acceptable fashon for most people. "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law |
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11/02/09 7:25:22 AM#67
Originally posted by Joker2240
What CPU do you have now? What amount of RAM do you have now? How much RAM does your GeForce 8800GTS have? As the 320MB version is pretty shitty and even outclassed by the newly released 8600GTS 512MB card. I am not saying the GTS cards are bad. I had the 8600GTS 256MB myself for almost 2 years, before I jumped over to the 9800GTX 512MB card. But it's no secret the GTS series were low budget cards. Cheers |
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11/02/09 7:34:03 AM#68
Originally posted by Guillermo197
What CPU do you have now? What amount of RAM do you have now? How much RAM does your GeForce 8800GTS have? As the 320MB version is pretty shitty and even outclassed by the newly released 8600GTS 512MB card. I am not saying the GTS cards are bad. I had the 8600GTS 256MB myself for almost 2 years, before I jumped over to the 9800GTX 512MB card. But it's no secret the GTS series were low budget cards. Cheers
You are wrong, read my post, GTS doesn't have to be budget, it can though. GTS doesn't make it budget, 8600 does, you are mixing up 8600 and 8800. |
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11/02/09 7:39:43 AM#69
Originally posted by Dilweed
You are wrong, read my post, GTS doesn't have to be budget, it can though GTS doesn't make it budget, 8600 does
I don't know what the prices are right now, as these old cards are no longer available. But back then my Asus GeForce 8600 GTS was cheaper then the GT or GTX version. The same was for the 8800 series, but even the GTS one was still too expensive for me back then. But it doesn't matter for this subject right now. Let him answer the questions. As I am curious what CPU he has, amount of RAM in his PC and amount of RAM of his video card. Seeing how secretive he is about it. I guess we know enough. ;-) |
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11/02/09 7:45:51 AM#70
Minimum specs are just that, the minimum. If you have min specs for any game, it means that you can play with a 25-30 FPS on all low settings, with an 800x600 resolution. Reccomended specs are the ones that you should look at. They are based around medium-medium high settings, at 1248x1024. Have a higher resolution than that, or want higher settings? You are going to need more powerful hardware. |
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DonnieBrasco
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11/02/09 7:49:08 AM#71
Originally posted by Joker2240 I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market. I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them.
I neved said your GPU is the only issue you have, and I even said the 8800 GTS is only crap, when it's a 320 MB version one. How do I know? I had exactly the same model, and it was dead slow for most games even last year, on medium settings. No need to be condescending, read my post first, then understand them, then think, and only THEN reply... saves you a lot of unnecessary tension :) DB Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is. |
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11/02/09 7:49:42 AM#72
Originally posted by Guillermo197
You are wrong, read my post, GTS doesn't have to be budget, it can though GTS doesn't make it budget, 8600 does
I don't know what the prices are right now, as these old cards are no longer available. But back then my Asus GeForce 8600 GTS was cheaper then the GT or GTX version. The same was for the 8800 series, but even the GTS one was still too expensive for me back then. But it doesn't matter for this subject right now. Let him answer the questions. As I am curious what CPU he has, amount of RAM in his PC and amount of RAM of his video card. Seeing how secretive he is about it. I guess we know enough. ;-) hehe, there has never been a 8600 GTX it is much easier to remember: - all 8600 cards are low budget and mostly crap - all 8800 are mainstream and some 8800 (ultra's) might be called high-end for there time There is A LOT of difference between 8800 because they used different generation chips (G80 and G90) and gave them almost identical names
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11/02/09 7:50:44 AM#73
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11/02/09 7:54:42 AM#74
Originally posted by Dilweed hehe, there has never been a 8600 GTX it is much easier to remember: - all 8600 cards are low budget and mostly crap - all 8800 are mainstream and some 8800 (ultra's) might be called high-end for there time There is A LOT of difference between 8800 because they used different generation chips (G80 and G90) and gave them almost identical names
Ugh Yes you ofcourse right. Nevermind me on that one lol. What I meant was the GeForce 8600 GTS was cheapter then the 8600 GT. So was the 8800 GTS cheaper then the 8800 GT and 8800 GTX back then. At least that was how the cards were prices back in Holland in that time when the cards released. But like I said. Let that guy answer and let him show his full specs. He is way too secretive about it. |
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11/02/09 7:57:47 AM#75
Originally posted by Guillermo197
You are partially correct, and partially wrong. The 8800GTS 320MB was cheaper than the 8800GT. The 8800GTS 640MB was more expensive than the 8800GT. THEN, the 8800GTS G92 model came out, which had 512MB of RAM, and was MUCH faster. It was then more expensive than the 8800GT again. |
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DonnieBrasco
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11/02/09 7:57:53 AM#76
Originally posted by Dilweed
I don't know what the prices are right now, as these old cards are no longer available. But back then my Asus GeForce 8600 GTS was cheaper then the GT or GTX version. The same was for the 8800 series, but even the GTS one was still too expensive for me back then. But it doesn't matter for this subject right now. Let him answer the questions. As I am curious what CPU he has, amount of RAM in his PC and amount of RAM of his video card. Seeing how secretive he is about it. I guess we know enough. ;-) hehe, there has never been a 8600 GTX it is much easier to remember: - all 8600 cards are low budget and mostly crap - all 8800 are mainstream and some 8800 (ultra's) might be called high-end for there time There is A LOT of difference between 8800 because they used different generation chips (G80 and G90) and gave them almost identical names
Still, there are differences within the 8800 series. 8800 GTX and GTS were released originally, with the older GPU. GTX was the top of the league card, around 500 EUR in my country. The GTS had 2 versions originally, 640 and 320MB (thanks guillermo for the reminder). The 640 version was about 300 EUR, and had the performance of about 60% of the GTX card. The 320 MB version was about 200 EUR, and had the performance of 30-40 % of the GTX, the low RAM really caused problem. Then they introduced the new GPU, and the Ultra and the GT models. The Ultra were a little better (10-20%) then the original GTX, and the GT models were approx between the original GTX and GTS in performance. To even further complicate things and confuse customers, they re-released the GTS model in the 512MB version with the new GPU (they probably felt how crappy the original GTS were), and this time they were about on par with the GT models. Long story short: the 8800 range varies from the Ultra to the 320MB version GTS, but amongst all of them, the 320MB GTS was the absolutely weakest by a huge amount. As I said, I owned one as well, and from about mid-2008 it was performing from OK to poor in most games. DB Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is. |
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DonnieBrasco
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11/02/09 8:03:57 AM#77
Originally posted by Rallycart
You are partially correct, and partially wrong. The 8800GTS 320MB was cheaper than the 8800GT. The 8800GTS 640MB was more expensive than the 8800GT. THEN, the 8800GTS G92 model came out, which had 512MB of RAM, and was MUCH faster. It was then more expensive than the 8800GT again. Exactly this is how it happened. It was pretty ridiculous at that time.... Anyway, the originally released 8800 GTS 320MB very soon became a shame to these series, its performance would more likely fit in the 8600 range (actually surpassed by a few 8600 cards as well). This is most probably why Nvidia re-release the GTS with the new GPU. DB Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is. |
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11/02/09 8:39:46 AM#78
Originally posted by Wrender
Hey that's what happened to me! And to think I hated it at first. Now I'm lvl 8 and I can see myself right now never playing another MMO. I have not had that MMO feeling that Fallen Earth gives me when I'm playing for a very long time. I've played MMO's since Everquest first came out. And I have played most of the AAA titles since then .
I had a similiar experience. I have been gaming since Ultima. I have tried nearly all AAA titles. When i was in closed beta for FE, I really didnt like it. I just couldnt get into it. I went back to CoX for a bit, then saw that they were doing a 15 day trial of FE. I figured I would give it a shot since my gf had kidnapped my Aion account. I fell in love with it. All the issues I had with it in beta were gone. All it needed was a second chance from me and now this is my game. The gf is happy because now I dont complain about not being able to play Aion. |
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11/02/09 11:12:36 AM#79
Originally posted by Joker2240 I beg to serously differ. A 8800 GTS is a dumbed down version of the GTX, and is also a lot weaker than the GT version. Moreover, they had a version with 328 MB of RAM instead of 512 as in GT and GTS. I know, since I had the same GPU before my HD4890. That card was OK (not great) well over 2 years ago. FE would eat it for breakfast. Especially if it was the low GPU RAM version. A hint: www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1509.html You can see how this is the slowest card, and mostly because of the low RAM only. FE is very memory-dependant, as all MMO's are. DB The graphics card is not the problem at all. Please do not give anyone technical advice ever again, as a 8800 GTS is still good for every game out in the market. I think I know my graphic cards better than you can ever understand them. I think it is actually my CPU. I just barely push over the recommended but that should not make a difference as I am above the min. So, really I think it just poor math on their part. BTW their min specs are as followed, Minimum Hardware Requirements CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
So compared to the video card and the dedicated RAM I am well above it. Do your homework son! Edit: it should not matter if I have the lower Dedicated RAM which I do not. As the min specs even for the shitter verison of the GTS is still above it. So, they either need to up their min specs or get better at math.
In game company talk, and this is pretty much 90-95% of companys. Min req is what is need to launch the executable without error. Meeting min req does not mean one can play the game. Just means they can launch it without error. Sic semper tyrannis "Democracy broke down, not when the Union |
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11/02/09 7:36:41 PM#80
5200+ AMD 64 X2 GTX 280 2 gigs ram Windows XP 10,000 rpm WD HD Cable Connection
Game is unplayable with due to lag. And i am above and beyond the RECOMMENDED requirements
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