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Ultima Online Forum » Britannia Tavern (General) » To old UO Vets: One last push?

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  vaultbrain

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OP  3/07/10 2:13:01 PM#1

So, I went on the UO Stratics forums and found that, with the developers says they were considering Classic Servers, I have seen a few more than usual threads/polls for classic servers. Now, as good as the points for a classic server have been,  most of the posts are by anti-classic server AOS item whores who, for some idiotic reason, dont want classic servers to come about.

Im still skeptical that EA will indeed make a classic server. It isnt like this is the first time its been brought up. But, it would be interesting to see their forums on stratics flooded with more posts for a classic server. And, since Ive found more old UO vets here on these forums, I figured this would be the best place to suggest and idea.

We, the old UO vets, get on the stratics forums and give it one last go, just for the hell of it. Get on there and support the idea for a classic server or two. Theres one poll that seems to be doing well with support for a classic server, T2A to be specific.

Even if it falls apart, it would still be great to annoy those damn carebear AOS item whores with classic server threads.

Who wants to give em some hell?

vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php

  Stellos

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3/07/10 3:27:26 PM#2

I would love to see classic servers, without the lag that we had to deal with in early UO.  That would be great!

  MacroPlanet

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3/08/10 7:23:35 AM#3

I go to stratics from time to time to check out what's new with UO.  I'll go and post my mind on the subject.  Thanks for the heads up.

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  Briansho

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3/08/10 4:06:13 PM#4
Originally posted by MaeEye

I go to stratics from time to time to check out what's new with UO.  I'll go and post my mind on the subject.  Thanks for the heads up.

 

Same here. Wow how time flies! I remember logging right after release. I had played Ultima Quest of the Avatar but the towns looked totally different. I'd go with a classic T2A server, I think T2A was before item insurance.

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  MacroPlanet

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3/08/10 8:44:11 PM#5

T2A was the first expansion to the game and five expansions from the item insurance / item based UO known as Age of Shadows.  I vote for The Second Age as well.

 

Ultima Online (vanilla)

The Second Age (The Lost Lands were introduced)

Renaissance (Trammel / Felucca created)

Third Dawn (Ilshenar and the '3D' client released)

Lord Blackthorne's Revenge (steam punk enemies)

Age of Shadows (Item Insurance, Malas, Paladin/necromancer)

Samurai Empire (Ninjas / Samurai, Tokuno Island)

Mondain's Legacy (Elves, spellweaving)

Stygian Abyss (Gargoyle race)

 

 

 

 

 

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  rmk70

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3/08/10 8:51:45 PM#6

To be honest, I'm always surprised EA hasn't jumped on classic servers yet. Without a doubt they would be full within a week of release of current and returning players. It's simply very easy money for them... and we all know how whorish EA can be, so why not on this?

 

All they need to do is create a facebook page for classic UO, ramp up the hype, launch it a week later and within a month they'd be raking it. How dumb can these guys be? (rhetorical question)

  vaultbrain

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OP  3/09/10 5:34:25 PM#7
Originally posted by rmk70

To be honest, I'm always surprised EA hasn't jumped on classic servers yet. Without a doubt they would be full within a week of release of current and returning players. It's simply very easy money for them... and we all know how whorish EA can be, so why not on this?

 

All they need to do is create a facebook page for classic UO, ramp up the hype, launch it a week later and within a month they'd be raking it. How dumb can these guys be? (rhetorical question)


 

Its not due to a lack of intelligence on the EA staffs part, its more due to an over abundance of arrogance.

See, they know classic servers would be a huge hit. Hell, they know it would restore UO to its former level of respect amongst the MMO community.

However, it would prove that everything since trammel has been a waste of time. It would prove that LBR, AOS and everything that followed was a complete and utter detriment to the game and that they should have left well enough along, applying simple patches and upgrades where needed, instead of their whoreish attempts at getting in on the mainstream EQ clone trend. They should have left UO the niche game it was, instead of making it into the cheap mainstream knock off it is today.

  rmk70

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3/09/10 6:42:53 PM#8
Originally posted by vaultbrain
Originally posted by rmk70

To be honest, I'm always surprised EA hasn't jumped on classic servers yet. Without a doubt they would be full within a week of release of current and returning players. It's simply very easy money for them... and we all know how whorish EA can be, so why not on this?

 

All they need to do is create a facebook page for classic UO, ramp up the hype, launch it a week later and within a month they'd be raking it. How dumb can these guys be? (rhetorical question)


 

Its not due to a lack of intelligence on the EA staffs part, its more due to an over abundance of arrogance.

See, they know classic servers would be a huge hit. Hell, they know it would restore UO to its former level of respect amongst the MMO community.

However, it would prove that everything since trammel has been a waste of time. It would prove that LBR, AOS and everything that followed was a complete and utter detriment to the game and that they should have left well enough along, applying simple patches and upgrades where needed, instead of their whoreish attempts at getting in on the mainstream EQ clone trend. They should have left UO the niche game it was, instead of making it into the cheap mainstream knock off it is today.

I don't think that's the case actually. If you look over at the stratics forums you'll see that there's a lot of current UO players that love the way the game is, for the most part at least. In fact, there's a strong vocal component of the community that adamantly oppose a classic shard as they fear it will draw populations away from the current server and waste resources of a small dev team that could otherwise be dedicated to their play style, the established play style.

I agree there's a strong level of arrogance at EA, but I wouldn't say that's all there is. EA has acted truly unintelligent over the years (they did it with WAR too). They've had bad planning and management of games that could be bringing in much more revenue if they simply paid more attention to gamers desires rather than what they think gamers want.

  MacroPlanet

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3/09/10 7:04:13 PM#9
Originally posted by rmk70
Originally posted by vaultbrain
Originally posted by rmk70

To be honest, I'm always surprised EA hasn't jumped on classic servers yet. Without a doubt they would be full within a week of release of current and returning players. It's simply very easy money for them... and we all know how whorish EA can be, so why not on this?

 

All they need to do is create a facebook page for classic UO, ramp up the hype, launch it a week later and within a month they'd be raking it. How dumb can these guys be? (rhetorical question)


 

Its not due to a lack of intelligence on the EA staffs part, its more due to an over abundance of arrogance.

See, they know classic servers would be a huge hit. Hell, they know it would restore UO to its former level of respect amongst the MMO community.

However, it would prove that everything since trammel has been a waste of time. It would prove that LBR, AOS and everything that followed was a complete and utter detriment to the game and that they should have left well enough along, applying simple patches and upgrades where needed, instead of their whoreish attempts at getting in on the mainstream EQ clone trend. They should have left UO the niche game it was, instead of making it into the cheap mainstream knock off it is today.

I don't think that's the case actually. If you look over at the stratics forums you'll see that there's a lot of current UO players that love the way the game is, for the most part at least. In fact, there's a strong vocal component of the community that adamantly oppose a classic shard as they fear it will draw populations away from the current server and waste resources of a small dev team that could otherwise be dedicated to their play style, the established play style.

I agree there's a strong level of arrogance at EA, but I wouldn't say that's all there is. EA has acted truly unintelligent over the years (they did it with WAR too). They've had bad planning and management of games that could be bringing in much more revenue if they simply paid more attention to gamers desires rather than what they think gamers want.

 

Stratics forums used to be a great place to go for Ultima related stuff, back when Ultima was Ultima.  Now it's just full of people that most likely just decided to put up with EA's stubborn attitude towards games, or new players to UO that did not know what UO used to be. 

 

To be fair, I can understand their worry.  If someone tried to come into my game and dedicate resources to turning it around instead of just moving forward with the fan base I would throw a fit myself.  Then again, we've already been there and done that now haven't we?

 

There are hundreds of classic Pre-Res / T2A servers out in the web that are ran by people that are just the average Joe.  I'm serious when I say hundreds.  I've played quite a few in my days, but none of them really get it right.  They either mix and match a lot of stuff or they just make it really easy to level up that it just takes the fun out of the game.  EA can and should make a classic server.  If an average person can do it, I'm sure a development company could.  However, it will not come to surprise if they just decide to can the idea at all, they've canned quite a few titles that were near release in the past.

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  Mystic_Fuzz

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3/12/10 2:45:04 AM#10

3 years ago, I would have said yes... Now, I doubt I could go back to paying EA to play their game that they allowed to be smashed into the ground. even if a shard opened that was T2A based, the same bugs and dupes would exist that allow players to cheat and they would stand idle as they have for years. I'd rather play a game where the devs actually cared about it.

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  rmk70

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3/12/10 10:14:04 AM#11
Originally posted by Mystic_Fuzz

3 years ago, I would have said yes... Now, I doubt I could go back to paying EA to play their game that they allowed to be smashed into the ground. even if a shard opened that was T2A based, the same bugs and dupes would exist that allow players to cheat and they would stand idle as they have for years. I'd rather play a game where the devs actually cared about it.

 

Well one area of contention for EA is that they would have to iron out all of the bugs, dupes, etc. before they could launch such a server -- they wouldn't launch it otherwise. However, plenty of free servers have been able to take care of all this, so it shouldn't be too hard.

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3/12/10 10:39:36 AM#12

I have made some really good posts in past years on Stratics as to why we need a classic UO shard. My posts were flammed into oblivion by people who never had the chance to play classic UO, people who do not like that style of gaming and some people who had it hard in those days. I admit that classic UO was a harsh game but that was only for the people who had no friends or ran without a good guild. I played from 97 to 02 and still run with the same friends/guild that I did from way back when on other games.

 

There was a time a few years back where a UO player at a town hall meeting asked for a classic Shard and was told it was on the table. The developers words of it was on that table spread to many MMO websites. Latter on the UO developer said that they are not going to make a classic UO shard due to people fighting over what time era of UO they like UO.

 

EA Games would be bat crap insane if they didn't release a classic UO shard. There are a massive amount of classic UO fans and on top of that EA Games is missing out on some monthly fees. I think people would rather pay to play rather than run on these player run shards where they do favors for friends, give the advantage playing favorites to people even when they are in the wrong. As a classic UO player, hands down I would pay to play rather than all these free shards.

 

EA Games would have to make the classic shard untouched. If EA Games made the classic shard carebear in some way, I think that UO would forever be dead.

  brieen

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3/12/10 12:41:40 PM#13

lets give EA somthing to look at join http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=317849071900 it is a group i made on FaceBook. i am trying to get people to join so we can keep getting updates and information from each other and when we get a good amount of people post it to EA and have them look at it.

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  Mystic_Fuzz

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3/12/10 5:26:31 PM#14
Originally posted by rmk70

Well one area of contention for EA is that they would have to iron out all of the bugs, dupes, etc. before they could launch such a server -- they wouldn't launch it otherwise. However, plenty of free servers have been able to take care of all this, so it shouldn't be too hard.

 

And yet, it's still rampant on production shards. Goes to show the lack of enthusiasm EA has for UO.

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  User Deleted
3/12/10 5:30:22 PM#15

It has been a very long time since I played UO. I think I played on Alantic server when released, can't remember though.

 

  Khalathwyr

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3/12/10 5:33:19 PM#16

I'd most likely go back to that. This time I wouldn't be the guy getting ganked all the time while killing deer outside Moonglow Cemetery. I've learned to PvP quite well since those days. >;P

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  User Deleted
3/12/10 5:34:28 PM#17

Gonna be tough to get people on a classic pay server with so many really awesome Free shards.

 

  Cik_Asalin

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3/12/10 5:37:26 PM#18
Originally posted by MaeEye

Stratics forums used to be a great place to go for Ultima related stuff, back when Ultima was Ultima.  Now it's just full of people that most likely just decided to put up with EA's stubborn attitude towards games, or new players to UO that did not know what UO used to be.

 

Oh yea. Stratics, the good'ol days, along with pre-tram uo.  That was a long time ago, and one of those periods one can reminisce about.  I'd jump onto a classic server.

 

  User Deleted
3/13/10 9:01:09 PM#19

The funny thing is that some of the people running UO Stratics and some of the forum mods on UO Stratics are from the old days of UO. I remember PKing a few of them many times on the old Pacific shard. For the most part, I think that they are all sellouts who were very happy EA Games turned UO into a item based, gear based sanctuary for carebears. If they cared about the game like most of us classic UO fans, they would have quit when AoS reared it's ugly head. Shame on them.

 

As I was reading the UO Startics website lastnight in the classic shard post, people want a classic UO shard but with many restrictions. They want classic UO to be sugar coated... WTF? Like having a classic shard is going to FK up their pansy shards. I bet if EA Games did a classic shard, it would be carebear sugar coated to hell as they listen to the carebears. If people can't handle classic UO... then dont fking play.

  vaultbrain

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OP  3/16/10 3:21:58 AM#20

Maybe if people get back on the forums and show some serious support for classic servers, this might be the time they listen.

At the very least, it'll annoy all of item whores who helped ruin the game to see the forums flooded with threads supporting a classic server.

Spread the word, let the old vets know. This may be our last chance.

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