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Is this class destroying the game for anyone or just me.I mean i get out there in NF run up on a group or tower or keep and lock kills me with one hit before i even can get a spell off. Is there a secret to killing them or are they just a cheat class?
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12/02/05 3:52:23 AM#2
Cheater class ^^ There are not that many classes that can compete against a warlock. Minstrel for example - insta stun, zephyr, warlock dead. This has been a hot debate shortly after the release of catacombs - Mythic slightly nerfed warlocks but they are still like "run in the middle of the enemies, slam your head on the keyboard and kill them instantly" Just lame. |
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12/04/05 3:35:55 PM#3
Warlocks 1v1 seems overpowered but once their chambers are down so is theri damage output... Consider this in group setups before you whine... |
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I guess you must be a warlock or your just a master.
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12/05/05 10:42:52 AM#5
Yes, warlocks are pretty overpowered when it comes to 1vs1. The only caster class I think that has it good against them is theurgs. If they can get the mez off, throw a bunch of air pets and keep staying out of range until they stun him, then you can nuke him down with whatever you got. Or if you're an MoC lifetap Sorc like me :P
Looking for something new. |
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Well i play for the Hibs , i have a 50 ment and a 50 hero.Both do not do well verse a warlock .
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12/16/05 1:22:52 PM#7
Aye, if Mythic nerfed warlocks in 2 ways, I would be extremely happy. 1.) If Mythic removed the insta MCL locks get. 2.) If an enemy player, surprises a 'lock, and the 'lock chambers, as the player succesfuly pulls off a combat style, one of the chambers is lost. It would help somewhat the number of players that seem to have the problem of soloing warlocks. I am an Inf, and it's fairly common for me to walk up to one, and 2-shot them, and although, more often that not, I walk away with about 40%hp, I am still alive after the assassination is done. I recently, invite a lvl 43 Scout to my group as he had just gotten killed by a 'lock near Beno docks, and I showed him how easy it was. Sometimes, if it's a specific Warlock, that I know and really dislike because of his attitude and/or ego, I will give them a big surprise. In this case, I did know the lock, and was about to show the 'lock what I thought of him. He was a good player, knew the class well, but that isn't saying much. Mashing 4 buttons which are all instas is somewhat lacking in skill. I walk up to the Warlock, as he is facing me. Being stealthed, I walk up pwithout fear, and PA him. His life, not greatly threatened yet, he takes stock of what is happening and casts a chamber at me. I run behind him so the chamber can't be fire, and cast a poisonspike on the ground. As the lock /faces me, he walks over the poisonspike, which along with my dotmine he is also getting pelted by arrows, a great number of them, landing. As the lock draws near, and quickly /face, strafe right and attack with a side style, which catches him off guard and he dies 2 seconds later. Fully buffed, I emerged, after getting chambered with 63% hp left. I explain to him that if you can get a Zephyr off on a warlock, and then switch to your bow, and rapid fire, you can easily kill them. The patiece is needed to pull that off since u must be quick. Warlocks may be hard, but a great number have demanded a nerf, and I think that, come next patch, they will get the nerfing they need, hopefully. Although I have no problem really, they are a pain in the buttcks! Keayed - 50 Infiltrator ALB/MLF |
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12/17/05 8:25:03 AM#8
Nah just have to know how to fight your opponent. My ranger locks horns with a warlock 1-on-1 and the warlock dies 90% of the time even with 2 or 3 chambers up. Warlocks are one shot wonders, odds are they will kill one person then have to rely on uninteruptiple cast which means he is dead. |
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12/17/05 11:04:05 AM#9
I have yet to see a successful 1-shot by a Ranger against a Warlock, on ANY Server that I play on. For Infs, it is quite easy, even more so when they have no chambers, and then, it's just downright ridiculous.
Keayed - 50 Infiltrator ALB/MLF |
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12/18/05 7:23:36 PM#10
Depending on your server there are many warlocks with either bad gear and/or shields down (chambers are more important ;) ). Two weeks ago one of my air elementals got the killing blow on a camping warlock. He had about 5 or 6 air elementals beating him and his group wasn't interested in healing/helping him... I think his mana was empty and they hit him for about 100-200 dmg (no convoker ML9)... I've checked the guild XMLs and he was level 50... at least quite crappy level 50. ;) At least on my server (Logres in Europe) most warlocks are just "gimp". You can nuke them down using 3-4 nukes while they start an uninterruptable cast (they just ignore their two loaded dd chambers)... Don't know why but happens more often than I'm killed by warlocks. ;) I'm playing an air theurgist but most times I play without elementals or drop 3-4 air and/or ice elementals on my target depending on his actions (against warlocks) Another good way to counter warlocks: Take a (good) friar into your group. 26% less damage is a lot against ui cast/chamber spamming bad boys. |
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1/15/06 3:49:48 AM#11
As long as we don't have the chambers up, we are toast. Learn to use that advantage! Allthough even I can somethimes think the warlock is a bit overpowered in 1 vs 1, there is really nothing I or you can do about it. Just try to play better then us, and we will loose. There is no class out there that is totaly superb in anyway so they never loose.
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1/17/06 10:08:47 AM#12
I play a lock Easiest way to balance the class is take away the self mana regen spell. Reason Locks' are so tough at high RR's is because unlike every other caster class they don't NEED To get serenity or MCL because they have a free mana font if they spec hexing. (Which is the most common 'lock spec). Thus, because they don't need to burn a bunch of points on Serenity, MCL, WP they can go with MOM and tons of other stuff to up their damage and resists. So they're harder to kill than a typical caster and do about the same damage (really, they don't do MORE than anyone else, not really). Thus they are over powered because they have the output of a pure nuke class but nearly the survivability of a hybrid. |
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1/18/06 2:00:21 AM#13
The Warlock class does not effect my gameplay since they are basically useless in RvR groups besides their healing. But if someone is slamming their head on the keyboard and killing you...you need more practice... I play unreal tournament '03 to stay sharp for this game maybe you could do the same for your hand-eye. Bonedancers they complained shortly after the release of Shrouded Isles were wayyyyy overpowered. But I never had a problem 1v1 with no buffs in the BG's on my Firbolg crush spec Blademaster. 2-3 shots average for the kill. Then I played a BD on Mordred and killed a full group solo with my healer bot hiding behind a tree. Mids complain CONSTANTLY about Bainshees. Played my GF's Shaman with the fastest casting speed, bolted, fungal scum, then layed on a nice big juicy DoT +20 spell duration and sprinted out of casting range....yes I won that fight. Bainshee in a group? Log in my NERFED Berserker, (many complaints led to the nerfing of left axe style damage bonus.) disregard all surroundings and charge the Bainshee FIRST! 2-3 shots solo. Dead. This game takes skill folks, and if a class seems overpowered and you cant get above that, then all you need is practice and the correct utilization of styles, spells, armor, weapons, etc. Then and only then will you kill that annoying Warlock. Then take that newfound skill...roll a Warlock, and wipe full groups of players that haven't learned yet!
Much <3 all! Bully. |
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7/29/09 5:51:29 PM#14
I don't know what made me come back to this particular thread. Maybe I'm just bored or something, but now, I wish locks were MORE of a challenge. It was fun, FOR A WHILE, when I could walk up 2 1 and 1-2 shot it, but it gets boring... Locks need some help!!!!! Keayed - 50 Infiltrator ALB/MLF |
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