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Skyforge Forum » General Discussion » Discussion if the game is going to be P2W

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  Hallwyn

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Joined: 6/17/14
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OP  6/17/14 4:39:34 AM#1
Because i didn't see the developers mentioning in the Q&A . What are your thoughts?

The game will have P2W market?

Yes
No
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  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

6/17/14 4:51:39 AM#2

EDIT:

nevermind, while looking for the interview to link it here found that the non-p2w interview was for another game. I got confused there, my bad. But still, wait and see. The game doesnt even have a release date.

 

I know the p2w concern is there because Obsidian is working with the Allods team. The Allods team did not make that game p2w, Gpotato did. Gpotato is not the team behind allods.

  DamonVile

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6/17/14 5:14:01 AM#3

Normally for a first post I'd think this one was pretty stupid but...... the game is by the allods team. Allods was my first real experience with p2w. When I first started playing I had no idea what that even was. I looked at their cash shop and thought wow, this stuff totally isn't fair to sell, you could just buy a win in pvp with some of this stuff.

I gave up on the game soon after, not wanting to be involved in that type of nonsense and there was no way I'd give a company any money that did that. So if they do it again with skyforge, they obviously haven't learned their lesson and I hope the success of the game suffers for it.

As of right now though, it's too early to tell.

  Allacore69

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6/17/14 6:34:11 AM#4


Originally posted by rojo6934
EDIT:

nevermind, while looking for the interview to link it here found that the non-p2w interview was for another game. I got confused there, my bad. But still, wait and see. The game doesnt even have a release date.

 

I know the p2w concern is there because Obsidian is working with the Allods team. The Allods team did not make that game p2w, Gpotato did. Gpotato is not the team behind allods.


THANK YOU THATS WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE.

  Allacore69

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6/17/14 6:36:33 AM#5


Originally posted by DamonVile
Normally for a first post I'd think this one was pretty stupid but...... the game is by the allods team. Allods was my first real experience with p2w. When I first started playing I had no idea what that even was. I looked at their cash shop and thought wow, this stuff totally isn't fair to sell, you could just buy a win in pvp with some of this stuff.

I gave up on the game soon after, not wanting to be involved in that type of nonsense and there was no way I'd give a company any money that did that. So if they do it again with skyforge, they obviously haven't learned their lesson and I hope the success of the game suffers for it.

As of right now though, it's too early to tell.


Who is there to learn their lesson? The people who made it P2W? Gpotato. Oh yeah, Webzen bought them out and now they answer to China.

Obsidian has no lesson to learn because they never tackled an mmorpg before.

So blame Gpotato. Not the publishers of Skyforge, Obsidian.

  Reklaw

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6/17/14 6:47:05 AM#6
Originally posted by rojo6934

EDIT:

nevermind, while looking for the interview to link it here found that the non-p2w interview was for another game. I got confused there, my bad. But still, wait and see. The game doesnt even have a release date.

 

I know the p2w concern is there because Obsidian is working with the Allods team. The Allods team did not make that game p2w, Gpotato did. Gpotato is not the team behind allods.

Did you just creat a new account in OP just to make a P2W topic?

Just curious.....

  Utinni

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6/17/14 6:57:31 AM#7
There is no winning in MMO's.
  Allacore69

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6/17/14 1:35:31 PM#8


Originally posted by Reklaw

Originally posted by rojo6934 EDIT: nevermind, while looking for the interview to link it here found that the non-p2w interview was for another game. I got confused there, my bad. But still, wait and see. The game doesnt even have a release date.   I know the p2w concern is there because Obsidian is working with the Allods team. The Allods team did not make that game p2w, Gpotato did. Gpotato is not the team behind allods.
Did you just creat a new account in OP just to make a P2W topic?

Just curious.....


Yes they did but it was supposed to be about another game and now they started sh#@ here for no reason.

  SupaAPE

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6/19/14 6:52:02 PM#9

the game came out of no where...it wasn't on my radar at all..

 

 

it looks like this game has alot of good stuff to offer, which is surprising  to me. it looks like it could rival the AAA mmo's coming,

 

therefore i don't think it will be P2W. 

 

P2W only happens when a game sucks and can't cut it

  Allacore69

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6/22/14 12:15:31 AM#10


Originally posted by SupaAPE
the game came out of no where...it wasn't on my radar at all..

 

 

it looks like this game has alot of good stuff to offer, which is surprising  to me. it looks like it could rival the AAA mmo's coming,

 

therefore i don't think it will be P2W. 

 

P2W only happens when a game sucks and can't cut it


This^^^^^

+1

  Black-Magic

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11/04/14 12:21:41 AM#11
Originally posted by SupaAPE

the game came out of no where...it wasn't on my radar at all..

 

 

it looks like this game has alot of good stuff to offer, which is surprising  to me. it looks like it could rival the AAA mmo's coming,

 

therefore i don't think it will be P2W. 

 

P2W only happens when a game sucks and can't cut it

Well said. Personally I dont think this game will be P2W because it just looks way to epic to be P2W. Time will tell I guess..

  zaberfangx

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11/14/14 11:44:38 PM#12

With allods back under mail.ru owner of my.com the P2W have not stop, even got worst then befor. Who know Skyforge will be pay to win or not, but with allods team and it's game design for the game they will find a type of way that will make people pay up by a lot.

And people still think Gpotato/webzen a problem? yes there pretty bad, but if people take a look allods on the russian side pretty much the p2w was by Design.

  rojoArcueid

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11/14/14 11:50:11 PM#13
Originally posted by Allacore69

 


Originally posted by Reklaw

Originally posted by rojo6934 EDIT: nevermind, while looking for the interview to link it here found that the non-p2w interview was for another game. I got confused there, my bad. But still, wait and see. The game doesnt even have a release date.   I know the p2w concern is there because Obsidian is working with the Allods team. The Allods team did not make that game p2w, Gpotato did. Gpotato is not the team behind allods.
Did you just creat a new account in OP just to make a P2W topic?

 

Just curious.....


 

Yes they did but it was supposed to be about another game and now they started sh#@ here for no reason.

i did not create a new account in OP. I posted my answer wrong and had to edit my post. The OP has nothing to do with me.

  Raquis

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Posts: 547

11/15/14 12:14:13 AM#14
yes that's the only way they think that they will make money,the game looks so good I would have bought it then there would not have been pay to win or pay to grind less.
  reeereee

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 1098

11/15/14 12:22:42 AM#15
Originally posted by DamonVile

Normally for a first post I'd think this one was pretty stupid but...... the game is by the allods team. Allods was my first real experience with p2w. When I first started playing I had no idea what that even was. I looked at their cash shop and thought wow, this stuff totally isn't fair to sell, you could just buy a win in pvp with some of this stuff.

I gave up on the game soon after, not wanting to be involved in that type of nonsense and there was no way I'd give a company any money that did that. So if they do it again with skyforge, they obviously haven't learned their lesson and I hope the success of the game suffers for it.

As of right now though, it's too early to tell.

I'm inclined to give them a pass because of the time period.  The heavily p2w cash shop was the norm rather than the exception back when Allods launched.

 

Also, I'm surprised this thread isn't flooded with people insisting that all f2p games are really p2w.

  DSWBeef

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2/27/15 12:10:27 AM#16
Games LOOKS great but I was burned the last time I ordered a founder package (AA) Plus its by the Allods team which in itself was a Decent game but the P2W aspect of it was disasterous for me. 

Playing: War Thunder, World of Warcraft, and Grim Dawn
Waiting on:Everquest Next and The Black Desert

  thinktank001

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2/27/15 12:32:06 AM#17
Originally posted by zaberfangx

 

And people still think Gpotato/webzen a problem? yes there pretty bad, but if people take a look allods on the russian side pretty much the p2w was by Design.

 

At least one person understands the microtransaction model.   

++++++++++++++

 

If the game is designed around microtransactions it will always be P2W, but each player decides whether or not they can accept the advantages that can be bought. 

  User Deleted
2/27/15 8:34:06 AM#18

Even if the game is so-called "P2W", it won't matter. Your character is going to have a prestige number. This groups you up with other players with about the same prestige. Prestige is a mixture of gear score, followers, and ascension atlas unlocks. So if you pay your way to the top, you will only be grouped up with people who have paid their way to the top as well, or other players who have earned their way to the top through continuous gameplay. It can still be considered P2W because it can certainly expedite the process of reaching the "top", but once there, there is no advantage against other players at the "top" since you will all have around the same prestige.

Also, there will be no items of "power" in the cash shop. No damage increases, gear, etc. Everything can be earned in-game, it just may take a lot longer than if you just drop real life cash on it.

  zaberfangx

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2/27/15 8:57:20 AM#19
Originally posted by Gravizo

Even if the game is so-called "P2W", it won't matter. Your character is going to have a prestige number. This groups you up with other players with about the same prestige. Prestige is a mixture of gear score, followers, and ascension atlas unlocks. So if you pay your way to the top, you will only be grouped up with people who have paid their way to the top as well, or other players who have earned their way to the top through continuous gameplay. It can still be considered P2W because it can certainly expedite the process of reaching the "top", but once there, there is no advantage against other players at the "top" since you will all have around the same prestige.

Also, there will be no items of "power" in the cash shop. No damage increases, gear, etc. Everything can be earned in-game, it just may take a lot longer than if you just drop real life cash on it.

Hope your right part the team for this game it's the allods team, they like to drop things right when people put in a lot money in to the game make it harder to quit.

  User Deleted
2/27/15 9:01:37 AM#20
Originally posted by zaberfangx

Hope your right part the team for this game it's the allods team, they like to drop things right when people put in a lot money in to the game make it harder to quit.

For sure. I am solely going off what they "said". However, we all have been burned before and we can only take what is said with a grain of salt.

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