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Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Forum » General Discussion » Brad Mcquaid looted 45k of the crowdfunding

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  Betaguy

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Joined: 12/31/04
Posts: 2663

Some folks are like Slinkies, totally useless but great fun to watch when pushed down stairs

6/30/14 12:09:35 AM#161
Originally posted by Locithon

The reason why the entire dev team left was because Brad, without telling anyone, took 45k of the ~150k upfront to "pay bills". When it was announced the money had ran out the dev team (according to Silius) were shocked because they thought they had at least another 2 months to keep working on the project until real funding was found.

This has since been deleted off the facebook page. (Danielle is the wife of one of the devs - Vhalen)

Everyone jumped ship when they learned what Brad did which is why he is now seeking out volunteers to work on the project.

 

Most likely removed because it was fake. Also love the crop job.

  Cendharia

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Joined: 5/05/06
Posts: 295

7/09/14 2:22:36 PM#162
Originally posted by Dullahan

People can say what they want about Brad's shady actions, but what he did was plainly a last ditch effort to keep Pantheon alive.

This is not a defense of his actions, I personally would have just divided the money and gone down with the ship, but he wants to make this game and it seems he was willing to step on his friends and colleagues in order to get it done.  They made $150k in donations and had nothing else coming in, so at that point, who do you pay and who do you cut?  If Brad lost the rest of the people on Pantheon staff (and he did), it would be terrible (and it was) because they were all talented and respected developers, but alas, "the show must go on".  Had he lacked the funding to pay his bills, he would have been out looking for a new job, and pantheon would be 6 feet under, never to see the light of day again.

As much as people want to hate on Brad McQuaid, this genre needs him.  However horrible of a person he may be, every game he has been involved with was amazing, even Vanguard launching a year early, missing content and completely unstable.  Anyone who says otherwise is simply ignorant of his contributions to this genre and should get an mmo education.

You can hate the man, but I still hope he manages to make Pantheon.  He may not deserve it, but for purely selfish reasons and for the sake of gamers like myself, I hope the new team is successful.

 

Some of us..desire the game that Brad "could" make.   I dunno I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt,  and see what he comes up with..with this secondary volunteer team.    If he succeeds and manages to blow our socks off,  that would make for a few people eating crow around here I'd imagine.  

Personally I am going to wait and see..before I pass any judgements.   Go go Good Team :)

  MrMelGibson

Elite Member

Joined: 12/13/13
Posts: 711

7/09/14 8:47:30 PM#163
Originally posted by Cendharia
Originally posted by Dullahan

People can say what they want about Brad's shady actions, but what he did was plainly a last ditch effort to keep Pantheon alive.

This is not a defense of his actions, I personally would have just divided the money and gone down with the ship, but he wants to make this game and it seems he was willing to step on his friends and colleagues in order to get it done.  They made $150k in donations and had nothing else coming in, so at that point, who do you pay and who do you cut?  If Brad lost the rest of the people on Pantheon staff (and he did), it would be terrible (and it was) because they were all talented and respected developers, but alas, "the show must go on".  Had he lacked the funding to pay his bills, he would have been out looking for a new job, and pantheon would be 6 feet under, never to see the light of day again.

As much as people want to hate on Brad McQuaid, this genre needs him.  However horrible of a person he may be, every game he has been involved with was amazing, even Vanguard launching a year early, missing content and completely unstable.  Anyone who says otherwise is simply ignorant of his contributions to this genre and should get an mmo education.

You can hate the man, but I still hope he manages to make Pantheon.  He may not deserve it, but for purely selfish reasons and for the sake of gamers like myself, I hope the new team is successful.

 

Some of us..desire the game that Brad "could" make.   I dunno I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt,  and see what he comes up with..with this secondary volunteer team.    If he succeeds and manages to blow our socks off,  that would make for a few people eating crow around here I'd imagine.  

Personally I am going to wait and see..before I pass any judgements.   Go go Good Team :)

I can appreciate your loyal dedication.  For your sake I hope it does get made.  I think a small niche group will really appreciate this mmo.  As far as I'm concerned, the more options for mmos the better.  

 

But, I also think the chances of this game actually getting made and launched is about as similar as this guy winning American idol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqmy5qrvaVQ

  TankYou88

Novice Member

Joined: 6/25/14
Posts: 336

7/09/14 9:21:55 PM#164
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by Locithon

The reason why the entire dev team left was because Brad, without telling anyone, took 45k of the ~150k upfront to "pay bills". When it was announced the money had ran out the dev team (according to Silius) were shocked because they thought they had at least another 2 months to keep working on the project until real funding was found.

This has since been deleted off the facebook page. (Danielle is the wife of one of the devs - Vhalen)

Everyone jumped ship when they learned what Brad did which is why he is now seeking out volunteers to work on the project.

 

Most likely removed because it was fake. Also love the crop job.

You think someone hacked the Pantheon facebook who had inside knowledge of stuff Brad himself said was true?

  DamonVile

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4909

7/14/14 12:33:14 PM#165
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by Locithon

The reason why the entire dev team left was because Brad, without telling anyone, took 45k of the ~150k upfront to "pay bills". When it was announced the money had ran out the dev team (according to Silius) were shocked because they thought they had at least another 2 months to keep working on the project until real funding was found.

This has since been deleted off the facebook page. (Danielle is the wife of one of the devs - Vhalen)

Everyone jumped ship when they learned what Brad did which is why he is now seeking out volunteers to work on the project.

 

Most likely removed because it was fake. Also love the crop job.

I agree it's totally fake. You should give him more money.

  Agent_Joseph

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/11/06
Posts: 1059

7/14/14 12:42:46 PM#166

nothing wrong here

it is for what KS & crowd funding existing ,spend on project 10% collected money other take for personal stuff

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  Reklaw

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Joined: 1/07/06
Posts: 6354

The adult I am takes care of most things real life. However my inner-child is a GAMER!!

7/14/14 12:43:30 PM#167
Originally posted by Zeblade

so who are  you? Why post here? Well they cant answer back so you can say anything you want. That said..I would keep my money the past speaks very clearly.  Still no reason to bash or make fun of someone that you KNOW wont answer back..

Its  a chicken "blank" way of doing things. People do this all the time. They talk when your not looking yet to your face its all nice and OMG your the best ever!  haha

Well he does have a acount here and is seen sometimes: Aradune just check his post history....

On topic, I wasn't there so who knows what happened, on internet allot can happen clearly...

 

  LachiusTZ

Novice Member

Joined: 7/09/14
Posts: 7

7/14/14 4:48:20 PM#168

He hasnt been on this site in a week, so prolly eating pain pills from a PEZ dispenser and riding his bike through the hills laughing at the people paying his bills.

 

Also . . . 

 

http://www.rerolled.org/member.php?13647-Aradune

 

But it seems he ran away with his tail tucked when people pulled their $$$$ out of the KS and realized what a colossal clusterfuck this became.

 

And yes, I made an account here solely for the purpose of trying to enlighten some of the people oblivious to what had occurred and what was ongoing.

  Azaron_Nightblade

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Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 2161

7/14/14 4:54:25 PM#169
Originally posted by LachiusTZ

He hasnt been on this site in a week, so prolly eating pain pills from a PEZ dispenser and riding his bike through the hills laughing at the people paying his bills.

 

Also . . . 

 

http://www.rerolled.org/member.php?13647-Aradune

 

But it seems he ran away with his tail tucked when people pulled their $$$$ out of the KS and realized what a colossal clusterfuck this became.

 

And yes, I made an account here solely for the purpose of trying to enlighten some of the people oblivious to what had occurred and what was ongoing.

Thanks. I was wondering where people kept getting that story, now I know.

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  AmbrosiaAmor

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Joined: 11/24/10
Posts: 917

7/20/14 1:33:03 AM#170

This was posted over at Massively... goodness if even half of this is true...

 

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/19/mcquaid-says-a-playable-pantheon-will-happen-in-a-matter-of-mon/

 

"Brad McQuaid is back with a mammoth 3,200-word update (treatise?) on Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, specifically to rebut misinformation about the project without returning to his former "evangelist" mode. "

 

Except the whole thing was just another evangelizing on his part.

 

So Brad:

 

1. Fails at a kickstarter

 

2. Decides after the failed KS to take over 45k from the pledges people gave to his website after the failed KS. He cites that it was an advanced pay to himself. Picture of email of the original statement later put on their FB page and website: http://www.rerolled.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=70038&d=1403842670

 

3. Declares the project is "on hold" because of no money. Claims then that funds will go to maintaining the website only.

 

4. Then his entire dev team quits. Many different reasons including: not being paid, being under paid, being paid then Brad attempting to ask for the money back, not reimbursed for stock assets and licensing paid on the Unity store etc etc.

 

5. Some backers charge back on the credit cards and get their money back as things crash and burn.

 

6. Brad then a few weeks later declares the project back in development. "Hires" a team of volunteers including a woman, her husband and 3 of her home schooled children to be on this new "developer team".  Said woman then is given the title of lead for the project due to her attempts to make a bible mmo and other similar religious projects. http://www.laurenewells.com/  Other "devs" are pulled from the few backers that continue to drink the cool aid on the project.

 

7. Brad then starts doing horrible video's every other week claiming that it is all "progress" by his "team".  It quickly gets pointed out that the terrain, monsters and characters he "shows off" are completely stock assets from Unity.  He continues to do this to this very day.

 

8. Two devs(moderators for his tumbleweeds forum) are removed from their positions: one for exposing some of the issues with the project and brad. The other for not getting along with other members of the team.

 

9. It is learned that  Ian Jones, host for Brad's pantheon website is the former host of an infamous forums of the past known as Fires of Heaven. Questions are put to him whether the pantheon website are in fact being hosted for free to which is refuses to answer. If true, then statements made by him in point 6 become that much more contentious.

 

10. Brad comes out to defend his choice of team and the money he took. This time he claims the money was for back pay, which contradicts his statements months ago as being advanced pay.

 

And much much more.

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