I was sad when the guys shelved Ogre but I can see how this AoC engine could really improve AO.

My problem is wouldnt such a radical jump in graphics kill off alot of players that use older systems?

I don;t mind a bump in the requirments but to need an entirely new system is a bit much.

I know I would need a new system since AoC runs like half baked dog shit on my Old PC.

I hope its optimized and doesn;t require a freaking brand new machine to run.

Ogre looked nice but it also looked like it could run on a single core 5+ year old PC.

 doubtful

aoc uses multi layer textures, different meshes, and way more shader effects.

means already said they wont invest the assets required in retexturing the game or doing all new meshes.  so it'll be the same stuff, just in a new engine.  kinda like they did with everquest a few years back.

Originally posted by cerebrix

 doubtful

 

aoc uses multi layer textures, different meshes, and way more shader effects.

 

means already said they wont invest the assets required in retexturing the game or doing all new meshes.  so it'll be the same stuff, just in a new engine.  kinda like they did with everquest a few years back.

nice! I was worried for a second I still mess with AO from time to time (the game is just too good to totally leave).

With requirements like AoC i would be forced to leave until I actually replace my PC and right now the games I play run fine (Eve, Ryzom, Valve shooters) so im still far off from buying a new one.

Sry for stealing ur thread JG, i just have one question. I haven't really been up to date with AO and it's graphics change, but i wonder if they'll update character models too? last time i checked no one was sure. Thanks!

Cerebrix was dead on, they can't make AO that fancy, and using another games engine designed for different and more populated meshes would be like creating an entire new game and would take way too long and much more developers than currently staffed with the AO team.  As for requirements ont he new engine itself, our machines will actually run better, because the new engine will actually off-load the graphics onto your GPU instead of strictly sticking to your CPU.  So it'll improve your framerates by actually using your GFX cards and giving your CPU more breathing room.  I'm looking forward to it and to see how much nicer it'll look :) , hopefully if it ever comes out that is.

 i think he was more referencing how theres been massive performance issues with aoc over the last year that had nothing to do with hardware.

you really didnt have to come off so douchey about it

Originally posted by cerebrix

 i think he was more referencing how theres been massive performance issues with aoc over the last year that had nothing to do with hardware.

 

you really didnt have to come off so douchey about it

LOL! no worries, Assuming someone is poor by the computer a person uses is freaking epic imo.

His post wont be up long with insults like that.

Edit: SEE!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

No need for the post trolls are gone.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Did I say I couldn't afford a new PC? reread the thread I know you can do it.

Once you fully understand it get back to me. (also read my second post if you have the brain capacity).

 

I'm insulted!  And Imma run and tell on you! 

/sarcasm

OP let me ask you a question. When playing Eve online were you one of the people against the premium lite client because you needed a semi-good gpu to run it? I find it funny that you play Eve online which imo is a pretty "hardcore" game but you come off as a very sensitive person.

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

Cerebrix was dead on, they can't make AO that fancy, and using another games engine designed for different and more populated meshes would be like creating an entire new game and would take way too long and much more developers than currently staffed with the AO team.  As for requirements ont he new engine itself, our machines will actually run better, because the new engine will actually off-load the graphics onto your GPU instead of strictly sticking to your CPU.  So it'll improve your framerates by actually using your GFX cards and giving your CPU more breathing room.  I'm looking forward to it and to see how much nicer it'll look :) , hopefully if it ever comes out that is.

Ahh thanks for the Info.

Yeah I'm looking forward to the revamp as well.

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

Originally posted by DeadeX

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

I don;t know if they are totally revamping Avatars but I did read about armor graphics changes and additions like showing off belts and braces.

I also know they had a couple reskinned heads they showed off when they were working with Ogre engine.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by DeadeX

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

 

I don;t know if they are totally revamping Avatars but I did read about armor graphics changes and additions like showing off belts and braces.

I also know they had a couple reskinned heads they showed off when they were working with Ogre engine.

Ah, thanks for the answer. I think it'd look a bit weird w/ everything being updated  except for the avatars.

MMORPG.com does not tolerate personal attacks on other posters. Please keep your arguments and posts on topic, and argue the ideas and topics of the thread instead of insulting other users.

Originally posted by DeadeX

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by DeadeX

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

 

I don;t know if they are totally revamping Avatars but I did read about armor graphics changes and additions like showing off belts and braces.

I also know they had a couple reskinned heads they showed off when they were working with Ogre engine.

 

Ah, thanks for the answer. I think it'd look a bit weird w/ everything being updated  except for the avatars.

LOL!!! yeah it would bug me a bit also if the game world looked all improved with the old avatars.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by Kozmo14

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:)

:D  What does that mean? I mean I dont have "Brain capacity" do I? 

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by Kozmo14

MMORPG.com does not tolerate personal attacks on other posters. Please keep your arguments and posts on topic, and argue the ideas and topics of the thread instead of insulting other users.

 

:)

 

:D  What does that mean? I mean I dont have "Brain capacity" do I? 

 

Do you have some AO info? maybe something on possible specs? what they've been working on? would you like to contribute to this thread at all?

 not for a while, they just started the whole "move to the dreamworld engine" thing last week.

but it wouldnt look nearly as wierd as you think.  everquest looked just fine when they moved to a dx9 engine with the same old models from luclin.

 i did read they are shooting for a november launch though.  we'll have to see if they hit that or not though.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Do you have some AO info? maybe something on possible specs? what they've been working on? would you like to contribute to this thread at all?

Just to respond to the Original post, which did not refer to specs at all and in particularly this comment:

"My problem is wouldnt such a radical jump in graphics kill off alot of players that use older systems?"

My comment to that is simply this: games shouldnt be held back because some people cannot afford newer technologies.   Gaming in itself is a high tech hobby, and requires that some upgrading and even in some cases, a new machine, in order to handle it.    Perhaps it would be wise not to indulge in such hobby if one cannot afford to keep up with it. 

Cheers!

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by JGMIII

Do you have some AO info? maybe something on possible specs? what they've been working on? would you like to contribute to this thread at all?

 

Just to respond to the Original post, which did not refer to specs at all and in particularly this comment:

"My problem is wouldnt such a radical jump in graphics kill off alot of players that use older systems?"

My comment to that is simply this: games shouldnt be held back because some people cannot afford newer technologies.   Gaming in itself is a high tech hobby, and requires that some upgrading and even in some cases, a new machine, in order to handle it.    Perhaps it would be wise not to indulge in such hobby if one cannot afford to keep up with it. 

Cheers!

 

 

Again you assume people can't afford to keep up with MMO hardware requirements. 

Not once did I ever say I or anyone else couldnt afford PC upgrades or new PCs, you assume too much and directly insult.

This is why most of your posts have been deleted from this thread.

Please next time reread the entire thread not once did anyone say they couldn't afford hardware, you're assuming that and using it over and over in your posts just makes you a troll imo.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by JGMIII

Do you have some AO info? maybe something on possible specs? what they've been working on? would you like to contribute to this thread at all?

 

Just to respond to the Original post, which did not refer to specs at all and in particularly this comment:

"My problem is wouldnt such a radical jump in graphics kill off alot of players that use older systems?"

My comment to that is simply this: games shouldnt be held back because some people cannot afford newer technologies.   Gaming in itself is a high tech hobby, and requires that some upgrading and even in some cases, a new machine, in order to handle it.    Perhaps it would be wise not to indulge in such hobby if one cannot afford to keep up with it. 

Cheers!

 

 

Again you assume people can't afford to keep up with MMO hardware requirements. 

Not once did I ever say I or anyone else couldnt afford PC upgrades or new PCs, you assume too much and directly insult.

This is why most of your posts have been deleted from this thread.

Please next time reread the entire thread not once did anyone say they couldn't afford hardware, you're assuming that and using it over and over in your posts just makes you a troll imo.

 

The ONLY person trolling is you unfortunately, because you obviously have an issue with someones response to the original post and are reiterating the same remarks over and over.  Instead of answering it head on you decided to insult me ( ie: the "Lack of brain capacity" comment that you made and subsequently deleted but not after I reported it as I will do with ANY insulting post you make going forward). 

You asked me a question and I responded.  I added something to this thread by responding to your original post.  In response to your most recent question,  to state that that updated graphics will "Kill off players with older systems" is in its self implying that certain individuals couldnt afford an upgrade.  What else is it implying if not that?

Cheers!

OP,

Could you post a link to where you heard this?

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by JGMIII

Do you have some AO info? maybe something on possible specs? what they've been working on? would you like to contribute to this thread at all?

 

Just to respond to the Original post, which did not refer to specs at all and in particularly this comment:

"My problem is wouldnt such a radical jump in graphics kill off alot of players that use older systems?"

My comment to that is simply this: games shouldnt be held back because some people cannot afford newer technologies.   Gaming in itself is a high tech hobby, and requires that some upgrading and even in some cases, a new machine, in order to handle it.    Perhaps it would be wise not to indulge in such hobby if one cannot afford to keep up with it. 

Cheers!

 

 

Again you assume people can't afford to keep up with MMO hardware requirements. 

Not once did I ever say I or anyone else couldnt afford PC upgrades or new PCs, you assume too much and directly insult.

This is why most of your posts have been deleted from this thread.

Please next time reread the entire thread not once did anyone say they couldn't afford hardware, you're assuming that and using it over and over in your posts just makes you a troll imo.

 

 

The ONLY person trolling is you unfortunately, because you obviously have an issue with someones response to the original post and are reiterating the same remarks over and over.  Instead of answering it head on you decided to insult me ( ie: the "Lack of brain capacity" comment that you made and subsequently deleted but not after I reported it as I will do with ANY insulting post you make going forward). 

You asked me a question and I responded.  I added something to this thread by responding to your original post.  In response to your most recent question,  to state that that updated graphics will "Kill off players with older systems" is in its self implying that certain individuals couldnt afford an upgrade.  What else is it implying if not that?

Cheers!

 

Not at all. Who knows why people wont upgrade, maybe people are more like myself and play a whole bunch of games that don't need a bleeding edge system.  Maybe they have the cash but refuse to upgrade or buy a new PC for only one game.

You assumed these people are poor and can;t afford new hardware, not me.

Off this assumption you targetted me and labeled me poor or someone that shouldn't enjoy MMOs because I choose to not waste cash for an unneeded upgrade to my PC when it plays all my existing games on High settings.