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Anarchy Online Forum » Rubi-Ka Lounge (General) raquo; AO to use AoC engine, Will it require PC specs like AoC to run?

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 8:18:39 PM#1

 

I was sad when the guys shelved Ogre but I can see how this AoC engine could really improve AO.

My problem is wouldnt such a radical jump in graphics kill off alot of players that use older systems?

I don;t mind a bump in the requirments but to need an entirely new system is a bit much.

I know I would need a new system since AoC runs like half baked dog shit on my Old PC.

I hope its optimized and doesn;t require a freaking brand new machine to run.

Ogre looked nice but it also looked like it could run on a single core 5+ year old PC.

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  cerebrix

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5/29/09 8:20:19 PM#2

 doubtful

 

aoc uses multi layer textures, different meshes, and way more shader effects.

 

means already said they wont invest the assets required in retexturing the game or doing all new meshes.  so it'll be the same stuff, just in a new engine.  kinda like they did with everquest a few years back.

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 8:24:31 PM#3
Originally posted by cerebrix

 doubtful

 

aoc uses multi layer textures, different meshes, and way more shader effects.

 

means already said they wont invest the assets required in retexturing the game or doing all new meshes.  so it'll be the same stuff, just in a new engine.  kinda like they did with everquest a few years back.

 

nice! I was worried for a second I still mess with AO from time to time (the game is just too good to totally leave).

With requirements like AoC i would be forced to leave until I actually replace my PC and right now the games I play run fine (Eve, Ryzom, Valve shooters) so im still far off from buying a new one.

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  DeadeX

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5/29/09 8:30:09 PM#4

Sry for stealing ur thread JG, i just have one question. I haven't really been up to date with AO and it's graphics change, but i wonder if they'll update character models too? last time i checked no one was sure. Thanks!

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  NeokiNaomi

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5/29/09 8:31:06 PM#5

Cerebrix was dead on, they can't make AO that fancy, and using another games engine designed for different and more populated meshes would be like creating an entire new game and would take way too long and much more developers than currently staffed with the AO team.  As for requirements ont he new engine itself, our machines will actually run better, because the new engine will actually off-load the graphics onto your GPU instead of strictly sticking to your CPU.  So it'll improve your framerates by actually using your GFX cards and giving your CPU more breathing room.  I'm looking forward to it and to see how much nicer it'll look :) , hopefully if it ever comes out that is.

  cerebrix

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5/29/09 8:31:59 PM#6

 i think he was more referencing how theres been massive performance issues with aoc over the last year that had nothing to do with hardware.

 

you really didnt have to come off so douchey about it

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 8:37:57 PM#7
Originally posted by cerebrix

 i think he was more referencing how theres been massive performance issues with aoc over the last year that had nothing to do with hardware.

 

you really didnt have to come off so douchey about it

 

LOL! no worries, Assuming someone is poor by the computer a person uses is freaking epic imo.

His post wont be up long with insults like that.

 

Edit: SEE!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 8:40:50 PM#8

 

No need for the post trolls are gone.

 

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  Broomy

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5/29/09 8:45:51 PM#9
Originally posted by JGMIII

Did I say I couldn't afford a new PC? reread the thread I know you can do it.

Once you fully understand it get back to me. (also read my second post if you have the brain capacity).

 


 

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  Cyborg99

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5/29/09 8:48:46 PM#10

OP let me ask you a question. When playing Eve online were you one of the people against the premium lite client because you needed a semi-good gpu to run it? I find it funny that you play Eve online which imo is a pretty "hardcore" game but you come off as a very sensitive person.

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 8:54:45 PM#11
Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

Cerebrix was dead on, they can't make AO that fancy, and using another games engine designed for different and more populated meshes would be like creating an entire new game and would take way too long and much more developers than currently staffed with the AO team.  As for requirements ont he new engine itself, our machines will actually run better, because the new engine will actually off-load the graphics onto your GPU instead of strictly sticking to your CPU.  So it'll improve your framerates by actually using your GFX cards and giving your CPU more breathing room.  I'm looking forward to it and to see how much nicer it'll look :) , hopefully if it ever comes out that is.

Ahh thanks for the Info.

Yeah I'm looking forward to the revamp as well.

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  DeadeX

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5/29/09 8:57:34 PM#12

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 9:00:35 PM#13
Originally posted by DeadeX

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

 

I don;t know if they are totally revamping Avatars but I did read about armor graphics changes and additions like showing off belts and braces.

I also know they had a couple reskinned heads they showed off when they were working with Ogre engine.

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  DeadeX

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5/29/09 9:06:27 PM#14
Originally posted by JGMIII
Originally posted by DeadeX

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

 

I don;t know if they are totally revamping Avatars but I did read about armor graphics changes and additions like showing off belts and braces.

I also know they had a couple reskinned heads they showed off when they were working with Ogre engine.

 

Ah, thanks for the answer. I think it'd look a bit weird w/ everything being updated  except for the avatars.

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  Kozmo14

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5/29/09 9:07:06 PM#15

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 9:11:02 PM#16
Originally posted by DeadeX
Originally posted by JGMIII
Originally posted by DeadeX

so...anyone feel nice enough to answer my question?

 

I don;t know if they are totally revamping Avatars but I did read about armor graphics changes and additions like showing off belts and braces.

I also know they had a couple reskinned heads they showed off when they were working with Ogre engine.

 

Ah, thanks for the answer. I think it'd look a bit weird w/ everything being updated  except for the avatars.

LOL!!! yeah it would bug me a bit also if the game world looked all improved with the old avatars.

 

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  Broomy

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5/29/09 9:12:05 PM#17
Originally posted by JGMIII
Originally posted by Kozmo14

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:)


 

:D  What does that mean? I mean I dont have "Brain capacity" do I? 

 

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  JGMIII

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5/29/09 9:16:20 PM#18
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by JGMIII
Originally posted by Kozmo14

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:D  What does that mean? I mean I dont have "Brain capacity" do I? 

 

Do you have some AO info? maybe something on possible specs? what they've been working on? would you like to contribute to this thread at all?

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  cerebrix

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5/29/09 9:42:03 PM#19

 not for a while, they just started the whole "move to the dreamworld engine" thing last week.

 

but it wouldnt look nearly as wierd as you think.  everquest looked just fine when they moved to a dx9 engine with the same old models from luclin.

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  cerebrix

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5/29/09 9:45:47 PM#20

 i did read they are shooting for a november launch though.  we'll have to see if they hit that or not though.

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