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Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

  The game is worth the time, hell it is even FREE (without item mall at that) if your willing to give it a tree without expansions, so you have nothing to lose but some time if you don't like it.

And again someone defending the game has to lie to do it. There is an item mall, it's called Phasefront.

And before you say "There's nothing unbalancing in there!!111!!", while that newbie is scraping through missions and having to run everywhere to get 6 million creds ( while also scraping to buy armor, imps, nanos at the same time ) and then having to run all around hoping to find a low ql yalm, someone can hop on a jetbike in their low 20's and go anywhere they want/need. which means the person who pays in the item mall has quicker access to more of the game than someone who doesn't.  

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

  The game is worth the time, hell it is even FREE (without item mall at that) if your willing to give it a tree without expansions, so you have nothing to lose but some time if you don't like it.

 

And again someone defending the game has to lie to do it. There is an item mall, it's called Phasefront.

And before you say "There's nothing unbalancing in there!!111!!", while that newbie is scraping through missions and having to run everywhere to get 6 million creds ( while also scraping to buy armor, imps, nanos at the same time ) and then having to run all around hoping to find a low ql yalm, someone can hop on a jetbike in their low 20's and go anywhere they want/need. which means the person who pays in the item mall has quicker access to more of the game than someone who doesn't.  

Sad that you prove my point of opinions.  If you want to consider that a item mall, you get it with subscription as a side bonus, but the game is p2p, which within your first month you gain enough PD's to get your freebie flyer.  Which besides the average newb can't fly a yalm before 50-60 anyway, and by then they'll know if the game feels right or not.  So find something better to be negative towards the game about, although I do see your point, there is no logic to the statement I made with it.

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

  The game is worth the time, hell it is even FREE (without item mall at that) if your willing to give it a tree without expansions, so you have nothing to lose but some time if you don't like it.

 

And again someone defending the game has to lie to do it. There is an item mall, it's called Phasefront.

And before you say "There's nothing unbalancing in there!!111!!", while that newbie is scraping through missions and having to run everywhere to get 6 million creds ( while also scraping to buy armor, imps, nanos at the same time ) and then having to run all around hoping to find a low ql yalm, someone can hop on a jetbike in their low 20's and go anywhere they want/need. which means the person who pays in the item mall has quicker access to more of the game than someone who doesn't.  

 

Sad that you prove my point of opinions.  If you want to consider that a item mall, you get it with subscription as a side bonus, but the game is p2p, which within your first month you gain enough PD's to get your freebie flyer.  Which besides the average newb can't fly a yalm before 50-60 anyway, and by then they'll know if the game feels right or not.  So find something better to be negative towards the game about, although I do see your point, there is no logic to the statement I made with it.

You obviously forgot that the item shop is open to fr00bs as well. It is not a "bonus" for subscribing.

And at 50-60 the average newb still won't have 6 million spare credits on their toon. But $10 in the item shop takes care of that.

The item shop therefore provides a necessary ingame item for real money. And please don't try to say a yalm isn't necessary.

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

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You obviously forgot that the item shop is open to fr00bs as well. It is not a "bonus" for subscribing.

And at 50-60 the average newb still won't have 6 million spare credits on their toon. But $10 in the item shop takes care of that.

The item shop therefore provides a necessary ingame item for real money. And please don't try to say a yalm isn't necessary.

Why are you debating item malls within the context of Anarchy Online (And no I did not forget), and why are you making such a big deal about yalms? I remember back when Yalms were non-obtainable for the average player years ago and we still got by (I couldn't resist sorry).  Don't go debating this saying a new player cannot play this game due to a yalm, and I've actually donated plenty of credits to new comer org members to get yalms if they really needed it, but most people I have seen join either like the game or don't, there is no in between.  And that's what I'm stating, not whether a yalm is going to change their input simply because they have better transportation.

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

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You obviously forgot that the item shop is open to fr00bs as well. It is not a "bonus" for subscribing.

And at 50-60 the average newb still won't have 6 million spare credits on their toon. But $10 in the item shop takes care of that.

The item shop therefore provides a necessary ingame item for real money. And please don't try to say a yalm isn't necessary.

 

Why are you debating item malls within the context of Anarchy Online (And no I did not forget), and why are you making such a big deal about yalms? I remember back when Yalms were non-obtainable for the average player years ago and we still got by (I couldn't resist sorry).  Don't go debating this saying a new player cannot play this game due to a yalm, and I've actually donated plenty of credits to new comer org members to get yalms if they really needed it, but most people I have seen join either like the game or don't, there is no in between.  And that's what I'm stating, not whether a yalm is going to change their input simply because they have better transportation.

Why am I debating item malls within the context of AO? Because you said there isn't one when there is. Pretty simple.

AO has an Item mall?

Shit I didn't even realize and I've been playing AO on and off for years (first as a p2p then a Froob after I sold my account).

As much as you seem to be hardcore towards AO and it's "item mall" eyeswideopen. AO is truly considered a P2P game (With free as an option for the original game w/o expacs I know), and you can gain paid points via your subscription OR your direct paid point purchases (Sure go ahead and call that item mall, but it doesn't compare to all other F2P games). I don't consider it a point or a let down to a new player, so again I don't get your point.  6m for a yalm sure that's a lot.  10 bucks for a phasefront also alot (If your really that needing of a yalm and don't have a org before 60), but not a requirement to try the game to see if you like it, which was my original point. Maybe my logic is clouded however, I do have a lot of 220's and been playing since the closed beta, which looking back I'm surprised I didn't quit back then.  But I love the game as it is and I'm looking forward to the new engine if it ever comes out.

I don't give a shit what the OP says.

Guys if you never tried this game before and don;t mind Vintage graphics give it a try.

You can play it for free for a very long time as the RK content is freaking epic and takes forever to get through the first time playing.

Edit: Recently I logged in with a little level 20 soldier and the freaking RK2 server had like 50-60 guys just chilling in the clan market area.

Shit I logged into WAR and I would only see 2-3 guys in the destro city. AO isnt a dead game at all so give it a shot.

Originally posted by JGMIII

I don't give a shit what the OP says.

Guys if you never tried this game before and don;t mind Vintage graphics give it a try.

You can play it for free for a very long time as the RK content is freaking epic and takes forever to get through the first time playing.

Well said, and he's right... You lose nothing but time if you're willing to give it a try.  And the game is worth it if your willing to look passed the graphics and into the core of the game, which is truly a masterpiece.

Originally posted by NeokiNaomi

As much as you seem to be hardcore towards AO and it's "item mall" eyeswideopen. AO is truly considered a P2P game (With free as an option for the original game w/o expacs I know), and you can gain paid points via your subscription OR your direct paid point purchases (Sure go ahead and call that item mall, but it doesn't compare to all other F2P games). I don't consider it a point or a let down to a new player, so again I don't get your point.  6m for a yalm sure that's a lot.  10 bucks for a phasefront also alot (If your really that needing of a yalm and don't have a org before 60), but not a requirement to try the game to see if you like it, which was my original point. Maybe my logic is clouded however, I do have a lot of 220's and been playing since the closed beta, which looking back I'm surprised I didn't quit back then.  But I love the game as it is and I'm looking forward to the new engine if it ever comes out.

My stickler was you saying it didn't have an item mall when it does. I agree that won't affect someone just wanting to look at the game. Far as that new engine goes, the recent scrapping of the new engine after 2 years of work because the devs realized they have very limited talent just broke the stick that was dangling the carrot. Anyone counting on the "new" engine is wasting their time.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Edit: Recently I logged in with a little level 20 soldier and the freaking RK2 server had like 50-60 guys just chilling in the clan market area.

And  they were more than likely multiple alts of 10 0r 15 guys.

I was gonna avoid it anyway, saw it along time ago and even now it sounds like a grind....

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by JGMIII

Edit: Recently I logged in with a little level 20 soldier and the freaking RK2 server had like 50-60 guys just chilling in the clan market area.

 

And  they were more than likely multiple alts of 10 0r 15 guys.

3 were probably mine. I'm Clan on RK2 :P

Originally posted by chrisel

This game really doesnt desever me spending time any time on it, not even using words here, but to warn newcomers to the game I think its my duty to do so.

 

I will make it short and simple, and I dont bother explaining all my statetements with any 'why & which' reasons.

 

Community:

Stinks. It is a bunch on 'inbred MMMORPG' players that suffers under the 'wear & tear'sybdrome', which means that there is no newcomer blood to the game, so all the relations they players have is to the same all same all faces they have seen for the last 4 years. If you want a buff, like essence, prepare to pay 200k for it, which is ALOT for a newb.

 

Playing in teams:

Good luck on this; I played for about a week in my comeback after been gone for 4 years, the only team I saw formed in Nascence cost me 1mill pr level to join!

Soloing; This is a joke; Getting levels is ALL about finding a group which you have to pay for to join, then grind Hecklers until you are around level 200... How interesting!

Ingame helpers: Non existent. You have tolearn all yourself. Dont rely on getting any advice or help, even if you ask polite.

 

Character developing:

You have 1 reset. If you do anything wrong when you put out your pts to develop you character, be sure to do it right (how can that be done when you are newb?). If not, you are stuck with a crappy developed character. The ways of changing your character are so limited and includes so much work its really not worth it.

If you should try this, I will give you this advice; do not even THINK about giving any advice how to improve the game; 99% of the players are flameboys; you WILL be hated, especially if you compare it to how World of Warcraft do to improve the game to satisfye the players.

 

Lag:

Horrible. Enough said about that.

 

Duels:

A duel between 220's takes at least 5 minutes. Utterly boooring. (if they are equally equipped)

 

Teaming;

AO is ALL about teaming; FC has taken teaming to the bizzare extreme. You are getting NOWHERE without teams. Game has nothing to offer to the soloer.

 

Last words:

This was my very first MMORPG. Back then at its release there were only 3 known MMORPGs: EQ1, AO & Ultima Online. I really REALLY loved the game back then. After playing it for a few years, I started to play other games. Came back few weeks ago, and was utterly dissapointed. It hadnt changed anything that was worth mentioning. Well, one player flamed me about this and said that the game had got ridden of the 'reclaims'... I just said 'wow, what a change'

You STILL have a rez sickness that lasts over 5 minutes! Imagine waiting for this to end, then have to run for 5 minutes back to where you were grinding...

 

In game challenges;

The bigges challenge (work) is about tweaking your character. AO has taken 'tweaking' to a whole new level; If you are a newb, be prepared to spend 90% of your time tweaking (wearing new gear & weapons), while the last 10% is about walking all by yourself in land totally empty with living creatures.

 

Getting into guilds:

The week I tried it, I saw 1 (ONE!!!) guild recruiting. They had a minimum req of Level 200... Talk about being optimistic in a game that has no income of newbs... Needless to say that trying to create a guild for yourself is impossible.

 

Ingame player population:

It seems that everyone who plays this, which is 99% veterans, has 2 accounts. One of the few players I met when I was grinding xp, was a lowbie with his L220 on follow, to save his @ss and make his alt be able to handle higher level mobs than if he were alone.

 

Roleplaying:

If you are after RP, be prepared to be laughed and mobbed; I know stories about people who has tried to RP; they were so much harassed and laughed at that they just left AO. You WILL see players who are RP 'tagged' (some marks beside their names'; They have done this to make their names looking more 'cool', not for the Roleplaying intention.

 

Conclusion: 

I had a real hard time in my comeback (changed server, so I started with nothing, since my old server is dead) I kept my mouth shut, just watching how the game was 'working', and didnt get involved in any discussion. When I asked for a buff, I barely had any reply, even though I asked polite, ending it with 'please'. If I had a reply, they clearly stated it would cost me a fortune.

Game is dead, and all you see are dual playing veterans, which actually makes the community twice as big as it appears since everyone has at least 2 accounts. If I should take a wild guess, I think that RK2 has no more than 500 unique players, probably less.

 

If you want a Sci-Fi game with impressive helpful community, and highly customizable characters with easy rests to new class, I strongly suggest SWG! I just returned to that. The game is totally changed, and community is THE best I ever been into.

 

PS:

You AO flame- &  fanbois dont bother flame me here for this, since I will not reply to this thread, cause the game is worthless. If you think the new GFX engine will save the day, or even be an asset to the game, I suggest you do a trial on Age of Conan. Lag in Conan is HORRIBLE.

 

 

All this what I said, is my PERSONAL opinions. Whatever anyone here will say, it will not change opinion. The ONLY thing that could make me reconsider coming back to AO, is that someone REALLY helpful had invited me back, to show me the positive sides of the game, which I might would have considered since no game has meant as much to me as AO and the first day I logged in ( I thought the Backyard was the WHOLE game then )

 

I wish the game all the best, I have no bitterness for it, even though the game treated me worst in my comeback of all games I have played, which means most major MMORPGs there is. I hope FC gets it back on track.

 

 

Cheers! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have zero lag in Conan so either your connection blows or your computer needs an upgrade.

I forget my old account info, I never max'd level... and theres no way I could spend who knows how long to get into the 200s, so unfortunetly this game is a pass for me :(

leveling is a lot better than it was.

you should try to email support, you can prolly get your account info back.  i did.

I got a new toon up to 200 in about a month, and that was playing about 2-3 hours a night max. Leveling is a LOT faster than what it once was as cerebrix posted, and take cerebrix's advice, email support will usually help locate your account.  Unless it's banned which a lot were a few years back when exploiting was going through the roof.

trashing AO and praising the NGE..............

dont think i need to say anything else

Originally posted by cerebrix

leveling is a lot better than it was.

 

you should try to email support, you can prolly get your account info back.  i did.

Fast leveling = better leveling ?

Not for me

Originally posted by vladww

Originally posted by cerebrix

leveling is a lot better than it was.

 

you should try to email support, you can prolly get your account info back.  i did.

 

Fast leveling = better leveling ?

Not for me

better leveling?  wtf does that even mean?

thats just an argument for the sake of argument.

admit it, you dont know why you dont like anarchy online.  youre mad about the fact that you dont like it because you want to, and just tried to think of the most disagreeable non statement you could muster to look like you are somehow right.

nice try, but everyone here saw right thru it.

Originally posted by vladww

Originally posted by cerebrix

leveling is a lot better than it was.

 

you should try to email support, you can prolly get your account info back.  i did.

 

Fast leveling = better leveling ?

Not for me

yes, because for me endgame = fun

level 10 = boring as shit

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by britzban

Originally posted by chrisel

I have zero lag in Conan so either your connection blows or your computer needs an upgrade.

 

Don't post when you don't even know what section you're posting in or what game is being discussed. It gives the appearance of a less than optimal education.

AO ( NOT AoC ) has as much lag after the ISP change as it did before, more in some cases. It's called crap server and client code.

Although the switch from savvis.net was a welcome and needed change, as that is one fucked up ISP.

The poster you're attacking was referring to this part of the original OP - "If you think the new GFX engine will save the day, or even be an asset to the game, I suggest you do a trial on Age of Conan. Lag in Conan is HORRIBLE." 

So who's the one with a "less than optimal education" exactly?

Originally posted by chrisel

"If you want a buff, like essence, prepare to pay 200k for it, which is ALOT for a newb."

Not if you ask for the buff politely, some people do charge for buffs but there are plenty of people that will help out, did you just see this in faction chat and assume that's how everyone did it?

 Playing in teams:

Good luck on this; I played for about a week in my comeback after been gone for 4 years, the only team I saw formed in Nascence cost me 1mill pr level to join!

That's a kite team, which just has someone aoe grind while you don't do anything. There are regular parties that level in the traditional manner. It will be hard to find them since there isn't all that many players.

Soloing; This is a joke; Getting levels is ALL about finding a group which you have to pay for to join, then grind Hecklers until you are around level 200... How interesting!

Soloing is hard but possible in AO, try playing an engineer, marial artist, or metaphysicist

Ingame helpers: Non existent. You have tolearn all yourself. Dont rely on getting any advice or help, even if you ask polite.

This is flat out wrong, the average AO player is much more willing to help and mature than the average MMO player.

 

Character developing:

You have 1 reset. (untrue) If you do anything wrong when you put out your pts to develop you character, be sure to do it right (how can that be done when you are newb?). If not, you are stuck with a crappy developed character. The ways of changing your character are so limited and includes so much work its really not worth it.

Yeah it's possible to gimp yourself, but if you check the profession forums it's very hard to go wrong with their advice.

 Duels:

A duel between 220's takes at least 5 minutes. Utterly boooring. (if they are equally equipped)

Like any other MMO, it depends on the classes, have you ever seen a druid vs druid fight in WOW?

 

Teaming;

AO is ALL about teaming; FC has taken teaming to the bizzare extreme. You are getting NOWHERE without teams. Game has nothing to offer to the soloer.

Just because you haven't had any success soloing in AO doesn't mean there's nothing to offer for the soloer.

 

Getting into guilds:

The week I tried it, I saw 1 (ONE!!!) guild recruiting. They had a minimum req of Level 200... Talk about being optimistic in a game that has no income of newbs... Needless to say that trying to create a guild for yourself is impossible.

Yeah this is something that is clearly limited to AO and has never been seen before in any other mmo ever.

 

All this what I said, is my PERSONAL opinions. 

That doesn't make you right (you aren't right). 

 id like the point out the first character to reach 200 was a clan solder and he soloed the entire thing.

this was pre notum wars when there were TONS of players to team with.  explain that mr. its impossible to solo.

Probably because everyone is in the shadowlands near the end levels, as well as in the new alien zone and that new zone. The game is going downhill quickly. No redo on the engine, the game is all about kiting, in fact kiting is really the only way to level in the game. Prices are outrageous, and the population stinks. Failcom should just let it die, let AoC die and concentrate on secret world.