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42 and pie!!!

Ummm, wait... what was the question again?

I will usually refer someone to this article when asked about what I think a "sandbox" is.

The History and Theory of Sandbox Gameplay

Short answer being the ability of the developer not only allowing certain freedoms but to also guide the players without them being aware of it.

Guidance by an invisible hand, so to speak.

Edit: Ilvaldyr's short definition pretty much nails it.

"It's the illusion of freedom in an environment that, by necessity, is limited to the imagination of those who created it."

1/10

It seems that the only one that needs to get over it is you.

"So Darkfall release ahead of its schedule and had a few issues."

Darkfall released ahead of it's schedule?

Originally posted by Tailz2k7

Originally posted by Respit

Originally posted by Tailz2k7

Darkfall has never claimed to be anything other than PvP, with even the slightest bit of research im not sure how this was missed.

 

Are you sure about this?

 

You do know why Barney Pfeiff was only allowed to carry one bullet, and had to load it each time he wanted to to take a shot?

 

Yes, I honestly wouldn't care if you took a picture of yourself holding a news paper in the HQ of Aventurine giving Tasos as High Five pointing to a bullentine on the front page of New York Weekly where Darkfall claimed something else to be the basis...  sure when trying to sell a game a game says Crafting = cool! Doesnt mean they tried to sell the game as the crafting game of the year. Every thing I read, every ad I saw was about Open World RVR & Open PvP. Mass Battles Glorious Glory of Glorious Glorism. PvE was umm... yeah... about that experience... who wants to play ring around the rosey except we all stand in one place and bash an orcs brains in 270 times each before it dies for 30 gold.

Lighten up Francis. You are the one that made the statement about Darkfall never claiming to be anything other than PvP.

Your response to the OP was condenscending and innacurate.

But I really did enjoy your response to me, especially when I re-read it imagining it was Barney Frank.

Originally posted by Tailz2k7

Darkfall has never claimed to be anything other than PvP, with even the slightest bit of research im not sure how this was missed.

 

Are you sure about this?

You do know why Barney Pfeiff was only allowed to carry one bullet, and had to load it each time he wanted to to take a shot?

As far as crafting being a viable role in and of itself in Darkfall? That's pretty much a resounding no, for many reasons. The least being the ability for anyone/everyone to do it themselves.

Lol, every time I see the Twitter logo:

I can't help but think of this:

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Respit

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

How can it be macroing if you don't setup a macro and run it ?

Just don't use any 3-party software and you know you are cool about it.

 

 

He is asking about unattended macroing. I'm pretty sure they key point being unattended.

 

And yes, it is illegal according to Aventurine. Is it strictly enforced? Not really.

 

I look at it as a playstyle choice.

 

Good luck.

 

You wrong. Its NOT illegal according Aventurine because its not macroing , doing something afk is NOT forbidden per se.

There is no use of 3-party software and there isn't even use of any macro. I am not sure if you mismatch that what OP asked about and provided an example about, with  other situations.

The OP asked about unattended macroing, if it is "illegal" according to Aventurine. It is.

I would say that scenario presented by the OP can easily fall into the unattended autorun/swimming against a wall category.

"Unattended macroing and unattended use of autorun and swimming against obstacles are also prohibited. We have taken great measures to limit macroing, to reward the players who are actually playing the game and allow them to catch up easily. We will continue working on making macroing and its effects irrelevant in Darkfall."

Doing something afk is NOT forbidden per se?

I'm sorry, I don't follow you here. Are you trying to say as long as you don't use a 3rd party application, then it's okay? Well, the statement above regarding autorun kind of disproves that, don't you think?

Look, all I did was give the OP a direct answer to his posted question, without all the beating around the bush and deflection.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

How can it be macroing if you don't setup a macro and run it ?

Just don't use any 3-party software and you know you are cool about it.

 

He is asking about unattended macroing. I'm pretty sure they key point being unattended.

And yes, it is illegal according to Aventurine. Is it strictly enforced? Not really.

I look at it as a playstyle choice.

Good luck.

Originally posted by Flex1

It seems everyone except Respit understood the topic poster.

 

He wasn't doing a rant/cry/whine opinion about the game, he gave a new player Ï tried the game a few days or weeks"opinion.

He followed the "rules"imposed by the game: Join a clan

 

What he couldn't deal with was being used as a farming tool for more powerful and experienced players.

 

You guys keep posting about how nobody gives this game a chance and you flame people that post honest mini reviews like he did but its all Darkfall fault.

 

He is a starting player and as such he doesn't have any weapons good enough to fight a full plated opponent with powerful skills or magic. He was trying the game and trying to "level up" but wasnt allowed to by the same players that post: ganking newbs is for noob!

 

This is 1 thing Darkfall needs to have fixed, the ability to provide new players a chance to understand the game FAST before they decide to quit and call it crap because another guy ruined the fun. Its nothing about being skillful in running or using a bank.

What? I think I understood exactly where the OP was coming from.

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that I didn't understand, but hey, each to their own.

That 30 days free doesn't seem so free now, does it...

Anyway, thanks for the write up. It seems as though you gave it an honest effort.

Try not to let all the "it's your fault" replies get to you.That's a pretty typical response to anyone that doesn't see the greatness that Darkfall is.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Respit

Originally posted by Polarisation

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

After the enormous backlash going around forums about paid transfers, it would be commercial suicide to not allow at least a period of free transfers. It's a win-win scenario for them: the appease the angry mob, increase their pitiful yearly result and get much needed subs money.

Really, it was not even an option. Even the amazing marketing dept. at AV realized that.

People should praise those who were vocal and complained about it, instead of having the "AV is always right" policy, which does not bring anything positive to the game and the community. Constructive criticism has done it yet again.

 

Well, they never said if or how much they were going to charge for transfers, only that there would be a nominal charge involved. Now the service is available for free and doesn't even require an active account on either server to transfer there can be no question that this is a big tick for Aventurine. To be still trying to turn it into a negative for Av is deeply dishonest IMO.

Now, they never said how much a transfer would cost, but they did state there would be a fee. Aventurine went on to say that to be able to play upon the N.A. launch, that  you would need to buy the American Darkfall client.

 

"On the American server: The American server will launch on July 13th. Characters from the European server can be cloned and moved without their possessions 3 months after the American launch. Certain restrictions and charges will apply, to be announced at a later date. In the meanwhile if you want to play on the American server at launch you need to buy the American Darkfall client. More information on the American server will be available in a few days." Update June 24

 

Aventurine went on to clarify in the same post:

 

"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."

 

What has changed since June, that a transfer fee or having to buy the "American" Darkfall client is no longer necessary? Maybe Aventurine negotiated a deal with whomever holds the American rights?

 

 

What you quoted yourself answers your question :

" Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."

 

Aventurine is one of the few companys stick to what they promised, simply as that. 

I don't see how what you quoted answers my question, but whatever.

The June 24th announcement clearly states that European characters could be cloned and moved(without possessions) 3 months after launch. The following is also clearly stated, "Certain restrictions and charges will apply, to be announced at a later date. In the meanwhile if you want to play on the American server at launch you need to buy the American Darkfall client. More information on the American server will be available in a few days."

Aventurine then posted a follow-up/clarification/contradiction less than an hour later stating that American players wanting to clone and transfer would not need a to buy a new client, but that anyone wanting to play at launch on the NA server would be required to buy a new client. They went on with an attempt to justify this with the following:

"The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs."

One of the big questions and requests back before and during the NA launch, was why not let us just re-roll on the NA server? Each time it was brought up, the typical answer was the "publishing rights" conflict.

So again, what has changed since June that now allows Aventurine to transfer accounts without any charges attached?

Originally posted by Polarisation

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

After the enormous backlash going around forums about paid transfers, it would be commercial suicide to not allow at least a period of free transfers. It's a win-win scenario for them: the appease the angry mob, increase their pitiful yearly result and get much needed subs money.

Really, it was not even an option. Even the amazing marketing dept. at AV realized that.

People should praise those who were vocal and complained about it, instead of having the "AV is always right" policy, which does not bring anything positive to the game and the community. Constructive criticism has done it yet again.

 

Well, they never said if or how much they were going to charge for transfers, only that there would be a nominal charge involved. Now the service is available for free and doesn't even require an active account on either server to transfer there can be no question that this is a big tick for Aventurine. To be still trying to turn it into a negative for Av is deeply dishonest IMO.

Now, they never said how much a transfer would cost, but they did state there would be a fee. Aventurine went on to say that to be able to play upon the N.A. launch, that  you would need to buy the American Darkfall client.

"On the American server: The American server will launch on July 13th. Characters from the European server can be cloned and moved without their possessions 3 months after the American launch. Certain restrictions and charges will apply, to be announced at a later date. In the meanwhile if you want to play on the American server at launch you need to buy the American Darkfall client. More information on the American server will be available in a few days." Update June 24

Aventurine went on to clarify in the same post:

"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."

What has changed since June, that a transfer fee or having to buy the "American" Darkfall client is no longer necessary? Maybe Aventurine negotiated a deal with whomever holds the American rights?

Originally posted by xpiher

The only way trials would actually retain a % of players that produces profit is if AV eases noob/newbies into the game with tough kid gloves. Something like a 10hr-20hr PvP invulnerability shield, or the questing area that eve has, etc

Would that not defeat the purpose of having a trial in the first place?

Throw them in the deep end of pool from the get-go. To do otherwise would be disingenuous.

To hear most of the fans tell it, any player that can't "hang", isn't wanted in the game anyway.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by SignusM

 I guess these smart folks who dig around for all sorts of obscure clues that Darkfall never existed never stumbled upon the fact that there was a spotlight update today that linked to the MMORPG forums...

 

You do realize the drastic increase in hits to this forum started about 2 weeks ago... right? 

 

In fact, it seems to coincide with the twitter post that was talked about eariler. 

twitter.com/darkfall_mmorpg/status/5362702018

 

It's a good idea for whoever posted it.  The funny thing is that it helps MMORPG.COM out as much or more than DarkFall.  But, I suppose the die-hard DarkFall fans can live with the fact that they are helping make more money for MMORPG.COM. 

 

 

 

Sure no problem with that, Darkfall was always popular in regards of attention in return we just demand $OE level of forum protection for the Darkfall section from MMORPG.com.

"we just demand $OE level of forum protection for the Darkfall section from MMORPG.com."

We? As in you and the mouse in your pocket?

Demand forum protection? Let us know how that works out. That is rich.

To quote Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, when asked about where specifically the Constitution granted Congress the authority to enact an individual health insurance mandate...

"Are you serious? Are you serious?"  

The thing is, I know you are.

Come on Darth. Now that Aventurine has tied  game and forum accounts together on the DFO forums, coupled with "Laser Tower" moderators that zap any dissenting opinions posted, you should have your forum utopia there.  

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Respit

Originally posted by SignusM

 I guess these smart folks who dig around for all sorts of obscure clues that Darkfall never existed never stumbled upon the fact that there was a spotlight update today that linked to the MMORPG forums...

 

That might have some bearing on it, if this anomaly hadn't been happening for well over a week.

Then why did people keep referencing a very specific time? (this morning, at 8)

It is exactly that, a reference.

I for one couldn't care less, except for the entertainment value it brings. But even that gets old because of all the bandwagoning and flinging of insults that most topics typically degrade into.

As far as the "haters" digging up obscure things to complain about, the first post pointing out the sudden "popularity" of Darkfall was made by one of the more outspoken(as of late) fans of the game. It would seem now that they are the ones that want to get all bent out of shape about it.

Originally posted by SignusM

 I guess these smart folks who dig around for all sorts of obscure clues that Darkfall never existed never stumbled upon the fact that there was a spotlight update today that linked to the MMORPG forums...

That might have some bearing on it, if this anomaly hadn't been happening for well over a week.

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Vexe

 Darkfall has almost 17K hits at nearly 8AM EST. Wtf? Aion, the number 2 place has about 2k. DARKFALL HAS 17K HITS. That's weird.

 

Darkfall belongs to be on top, nothing wrong with it.

 

It indeed does. But not exactly the "top position" you had in mind.

Really, people must be completely brainwashed to think this kind of activity is normal.

Oh come on StrixMaxima, there is nothing abnormal about Darkfall having 20,559 UNIQUE hits at 11 a.m. CST on a weekday. I mean really, that only averages out to 1,869 UNIQUE hits an hour since the counter reset.

And 195,748 UNIQUE hits each and every hour for the last 155 hours or so is well within the realm of possibilities.

But I do expect the hits to taper off as soon as the "expansion" is released, or when Darkfall has the top spot for the preceding year in unique hits. Whichever comes first.

Just because Darkfall hadn't even cracked the top 10 since shortly after launch up until a week or so ago is just a testament to the hard work that Aventurine has put into the game, and people are finally realizing Darkfall for the gem it really is. The diamond in the rough has finally became a treasure.

Just because Aion only has 3,330 UNIQUE hits during the same 11 hour time frame means absolutely nothing.

It seems they were giving out 10-day Trials at Digital World '09 taking place in Athens, Greece through October 31, 2009.

I haven't seen any other information on these trials, so it is unknown if there are any restrictions placed on them or not. I doubt there is.

Personally, I think if trials do come out, that they will be through a Buddy-Key system. But then again, who the heck knows what Aventurine will do.

Originally posted by Aceundor

 I think its still beeing manipulated by some fanboi or worse, by darkfall staff. 

Just look at the difference between Darkfall and Aion and you know there is something fishy

I have to agree. It is obvious that the "unique hits" are in fact being manipulated.