All Posts by Clyptso

If I remember correctly WOW at beginning didn't have much raiding. They had few raid encounters and one raid dungeon right? They added more raid zones later. Also WOW PVP at beginning sucked. They added that later too.

WAR does have PVE end game for groups. WAR has 3 dungeons that comes available after you take over a city i think. So like most games I expect they will add more PVE and RVR content in updates in months following the release.

A mix of RVR and PVE is my prefered style. Luckilly the main end game of city sieging has both.

Originally posted by Keeper2000

Originally posted by OldManFunk

If RvR is so great then why isn't DAoC doing better?

Great question.  It failed for many reasons but the main, imo, was becasue Mythic started to walk the WoW path, instead of the WAR path.

DAoC was fully RvR oriented at first, like WAR.  But then they started adding content.  And the content wasnt RvR one... was PvE one.

Suddenly, people had to raid for hours and hours to get MLs, Artis, better gear.   Then they added more PvE content: crafting.  So people templated themselves (making gear more and more important).  All this is the WoW path: PvE path.

They learned from their mistakes, it seems.  I hope the future content they add keep improving RvR more than PvE.

I hope they dont follow the WoW's path (a terrible game, raidfest, grindfest, gear oriented and without real PvP).

 

Your wrong. Alot people quit DAOC well before they added alot PVE content because of lack of PVE content. Artifacts were added in third expnasions and alot people had already quit before then. Facts is majority of players like PVE as much or better than RVR. People tend get tired of doing same think over and over no matter how fun RVR is people want  good PVE to fall back on for change of pace.

Reason DAOC isn't doing great is the PVE aspect of the game wasn't that great to begin with and basically once a game loses a great many players its hard to get those players toc ome back and harder to get new players cause the hype is on other games.

You better hope the put as much focus on PVE as they on RVR in future major updates because alot players want good PVE to do along with RVR to keep players interested. WAR is suppose be a mix of RVR and PVE and its a good idea to have alot to do in both types of gameplay cause doing just one all the time tends to get boring fast.

 

Your getting tired of the post yet you post one yourself

Putting that aside.

WAR is not the Follow on from WoW it has NOTHING to do with WoW in any shape or form, they are not trying to be WoW they are Trying to make a GREAT RvR game with amazing PvP and so far they have done that.

You seem to find an economy key to a game perhaps you should go with a realistic economy, WAR is not a buy and sell type game and it is not trying to be, PvP/RvR games are not ment to make merchants of us, this is WAR not Business 1 to 1.

A huge World means nothing EQ2 is ALOT bigger than WoW, both good games but really world size means Nada.

PvE is great, so I say looks for a PvE game, yes WAR has some PvE but as stated this is a Game where you kill other players, the objective is not to get the best gear from high level unthinking mobs, its to kill the other side, take there lands, Ravage there women, kill there children BATHE IN THERE BLOOD, opps sorry but you get the idea.

This is not ment to flame just to say WAR does not = WoW in anyway, and with my highest hope it never will.

Part of the main end game is city sieging. Each city has 3 PVE dungeons you get access to once you take over. Thats part of end game. Also I think the king is PVE too? So War does have PVE for end game but not as much at launch. I expect WAR will get major PVE content updates too later. First expansion will hopefully offer alot PVE updates too. JUst at launch the focus was getting PVP or RVR down but PVE is there.

3Just go to you local store when it releases in stores and check. I'm sure some people would probally have cancelled and downgraded to the SE. Alot people got CE to just get into beta before SE could too. Its a chance there might be one available but its not positive

Originally posted by buegur

I never had anything against WoW and played it for quite a bit, but WoW is not War or anything even remotely related.  I don't understand why people want to compare the two games as its comparing oranges to Apples.  I don't see this game stealing their core audiance of PvE players although those that like RvR might be tempted to give War a try.

One other thing people seem to group together is PvP and RvR, if your doing that than you don't understand this game at all!  PvP is mostly a pointless kill the other player for no good reason, where RvR is about supporting the realm. Sure there can be one on one PvP, but the games about the masses working together to further the goal of the realm.  Mr elite isn't going to be that affective compared to groups working in unionisn.

PVP is killing other players in general. RVR is a type of PVP with distinct sides. There are many forms of PVP like FFA etc. RVR is one of the main end games and thats why many talk of PVP is basically one side PVPing the other side but with a point to it. So grouping together PVP and RVR isn't really wrong when RVR is a type of PVP just with distinct sides.

I don't even see why WOW fanboys seem to be so worried about other games, Its not like WOW has a problem with subscribers.

WOW is PVE game. PVP in WOW is such a small portion of the game. Combat may be different in WAR and WOW but base game is totally different.

Talking about slow combat why don't you WOW fans talk about slow pathetic pace of WOWs main end game of Raiding. I suppose WOW people can't take slower combat but can take Raiding THE Same Zones over and Over for chance at a Piece of loot for weeks and months to get gear just to move to the next tier and raid it over and over just as long to move to next zone and repeat.

The fact is majority of people play MMOs for PVE and loot. Hence as repetive as WOW raiding system is people do it cause getting loot is fun. WAR is  PVP based game and not as much PVE and that is why its won't kill any game since majority of MMO fanbase like PVE and like loot. Its not the combat of WAR its plain and simple not enough PVE and loot that people don't like the most. I played DAOC ofr 3 years in row at launch and saw the player base drop fast because players went back to PVE based games with more loot. DAOC first expansion was PVE mainly but it came too late. No matter how fun RVR people like good PVE to fall back on and if WAR don't deliver on PVE front people will go back to PVE based games. Face it PVE is just as important as RVR to keep players playing. Some people are hardcore PVPers but most people prefer both PVE and PVP.

Originally posted by Digna

It ends Monday, but if thats 8AM or Monday 5PM? No idea.

Its was from Friday morning to monday morning. Guessing its closing the time that servers  opened giving the preview weekend 72 hours or 3 full days.

Only if  WAR has some good PVE content updates too. Majority of MMOers while liking to PVP some loves PVE even more. I love RVR personally but I love PVE too.

DAOC lost alot of customers in its first few months of release cause PVE was lacking and only people who liked RVR stayed and gave the game a chance and Mythic did alot PVE content later in the games life but was too late .

Hope WAR has enough PVE end game to keep players playing until major content updates come out and so on. RVRing all the time just doesn't work for most people need mix in some good PVE to keep it fun. Lets face it more players whyo play an RVR game the funner it is and heres hoping Mythic can keep most players playing for a while.

Originally posted by Tuck2000

Everyone had the chance to get into open beta if they were fast enough to either buy the one of the 60K CE's or to register there key for the first 50K of SE. That is more then enough for Mythic to achieve the goals of an OPEN BETA TEST!!! Which is what it is If you did not get into it that is unfortunate but you and everyone else will benefit from the hard work of the testers who made all the bug reports and noted all the issues to the dev to have them fixed before release. If all you are looking for is a free test spin of the game then wait for a buddy pass. This time is for testing not demo’s.

 

The 50k SEs are for the preview weekend. I think that everyone who preordered the SE will get into Open beta September 7th. That gives people a week of open beta to try it some and then early access will be 3ish days to try it for real. Open beta will still be part of testing just not for bugs mainly but stress test on servers. for those people really interested in WAR they will get into open beta for a week no matter hwta cause those people will most likely have already preordered.

Originally posted by alyndale

Originally posted by TheSheikh

Originally posted by sgel

I'm either blind... or there's nothing there...

I've played countless other MMOs... and I'm playing two of them now... I've also been playing WAR beta... playing and playing actually, trying to find out what's all the fuss about.... is it the RvR ?

I've also been reading these forums and I've noticed a few people who keep on posting comments like "it will rock your socks off" or "prepare to be engulfed in the most amazing game ever" or "this will blow you away" or "this will devour every other MMO out there"...... now either these people are old addicted DAOC players who live to play RVR (which is fine) or they've never played other MMOs.....

I mean I've got feelings... I like playing games... but there's nothing about this game that would excite me...

What are these elements that are supposed to rock my socks off?

I will sum up this thread with a single question.

Did you play DAoC?

 

So, I gather to commune with "ONENESS" you must have had a DOAC experience first?

No but people who played DAOC know how fun RVR can be already.

Do a file check. If using Utorrent stop the download and right click and click force re-check. Not sure if that will help or not.

All CE people are guaranteed a spot in open beta and from sounds of it will start with a preview weekend for CE people i guess.

Its less than 5 week till release so I don't expect CE people who got in clkosed beta will have long to play before open begins. My guess is they are maybe using CE people to test the new servers they are putting up first maybe.

Who cares. People who bought CE are suppose to get in. But they still are doing it by pc specs it seems. Open beta is really close and they still worrying about people's specs before letting them in!

I sure they will be running more than one open beta server. There were 60k CE and plus now standard editions get in too thats alot of people. I sure they will wipe the servers once open beta is over to use them as game servers for launch.

He was describing how the system that will work at launch only. He didn't talk about the other cities cause they not going be in at launch. Its how the game will work at launch and sounds good to me still.

Another stupid post, If you want play WAR or any other MMO over WOW play them. Why worry about a game you don't want to play. Be a fan of WAR but why bash other games or talk about other games on the WAR forums. I plan on playing WAR and could care less about how WOW is doing or any other MMO for that fact. Shouldn't matter when WOW dies to anyone who don't like WOW or anyopne who finds another MMO in the future play what is fun to you and worry about that game.

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Originally posted by Xtort

I just read in the MMORPG article that 4 major/RvR raidable cities and 4 melee classes will not be on the release. Also Mytic's name has been changed from EA Mythic to Mythic Entertainment. This shows that they have been having problems with EA (probably due to the pushing of release date further).

Wtf? 

I am sad now. I wanted to play a Choppa in my own Greenskin city. RvR with 1 city per faction sounds very ugly.

I hope they sort their stuff before release, because I won't be playing the game with half of its content taken away.

I just think you a troll trying to keep this old bit of news fresh in people mind as release gets closer. Those classes and cities won't make it in at launch and we all know that. Accept it or not don't cry about something you can't change.

WAR is in the final phase of beta before open beta aka the guild phase. Since the guild phase started they have sent out invites 3 or 4 more times. Almost everything is in the game already that suppose to make launch. Mythic is starting to send out invites more frequently. I think open beta will start early to mid august and mid to late september release.

From everything that we heard the game is mostly already complete and everything is mostly in beta that suppose be in launch if nothing major is broke.