Originally posted by EbonHawk

Originally posted by thorppes

Originally posted by EbonHawk

While I appreciate the effort and the RP aspect of what they're trying to do.  That video was flippin' awful!  And if that is how the game play looks, well then good luck to this train wreck...  But if you people enjoy it then more power to ya,

Very low graphics settings (A lot of people use it for PvP/to prevent their old computer systems from dying whilst running the game)

Ah, okay.  And that makes sense.  Thanks for the info friend...

Actually, I wasn't on low graphics, but medium. This is also from the Pre-Epic days. what happened is the video was recorded from several people in the guild's computers, and not all using fraps, but other screen recorders as well. When you mix those file types together along with youtubes bad compression as well... you get crap :P

The game in general does look quite a bit prettier now.

/necro

I wasn't trying to drive people away, nor are many of the old MO forum members when we gripe... the sad fact is, you can send all the pm's you want to SV staff, all the emails you'd like to the GM's, ect... but in the end, they only listen when you go public with something.

I didn't handle the situation randomly, nor namelessly as some others have handled other blatent problems with the game, but after a few PM's with Henrik, I was satisfied enough to lay off. Honestly, I haven't been to the MO forums since though.

I love the game's idea to death personally, and would reccomend anyone to try the game... its just that there is a point where you get so deep into it, and you see some of the under the table things that go on... you just have to let go.

At this point I'm personally just waiting for things to get better from the sidlines, but do intend on returning.

Originally posted by Hluill

Originally posted by Airphel

They stole my shiz, and I killed them for it.

This statement makes me think that there is more to the story...  Justifiable or not, something was done to incur their wrath.  It's silly that it was taken to such an extreme.

No, I was outside of town using a furnace making pig iron witch you can't look away during the 5 seconds it takes to extract, and they took my pig iron, I hit them, they ran. Come back awhile later, same thing again, I give up, switch to my alt, run out there and kill them only to find that they have already dropped it, so I killed them for the sheer satisfaction of killing a dirty theif. 2 days later, I'm grinding some stone, and a different character with full gear comes up and murders me, and says, "I remember you, thats for my theif." Later, I'm on my alt at the Equirry NPC just outside of town withdrawing my horse, and he runs up and kills my horse, then me. At that point the only good item I had left, (after loosing my armor earler that day) was my steel sword. Now I'm nude with absolutely nothing but gained skills. I can't leave that town without getting killed by him and his buddies, so I'm going to move my character to a different town on foot in the death mode. Its just sheer harassment at this point.

Shadowbane had its issues, but it did have an excellent community, or I was just lucky. After being in many guilds and banes, I was a co-leader of a smaller guild, and had a great time. People where always willing to band together there for the greater good.

Hate begets hate, and then spreads like wildfire. The MO community is currently in bad shape because everyone is pissed at everyone, and ends up making theives since they get so many things stolen, and it goes on and on.  I'm in a much better mood after the hell of playing yesterday, and still have good intensions again, but a person can only take so much.

The killing of the horse was at the equirry guy, just out side of guards reach.

And my problem isn't the mechanics so much (yes theives need to be fixed), its the horrid community. I've been forced to change my characters screen name just because this small group of players wants to harass me into obivion.

No I never played UO, that was before my time I suppose, but I was an avid SB player.

you plan on being solo.

My first week in review? Horrible. I loved the game don't get me wrong, its a breath of fresh air in the all too restricting games that have came out in a long while, and I love anarchy, but for gods sakes, you seriously can't trust ANYONE in this game. ANYONE! Perhapse I had bad luck in MO, but the community is horrible. If you don't find less than reputable occupations in-game such as theif or red, then you have no chance from the get go.

So far my extractor managed to make 1 stack of steel, only to have 1 sword made, and have the rest stolen here and there by other "crafters", and then the last bit lost by death and have my horse killed as well. That isn't what bothers me. That was to be expected. What does bother me is that now, I've been forced to delete my characters and change my screen name due to harassment by one person. I go to mine, I get killed by their alt, I go to the bank, I get robbed, I leave town, I get killed, I withdraw my horse from the equirry guy, it gets killed, then I fight/flight, get killed. Now he/she has buddies in thier guild that are also instruced to do so, so I can't even go to two of the main cities. what started it? They stole my shiz, and I killed them for it.

Like I said, if your not in a guild already (even if i was in one, I still wouldn't trust them), don't plan on being a theif, or don't plan on being a red, don't play. Being a peaceful crafter/extractor gets nowhere. I've been nothing but generous and helpful to everyone I've met in game and just been beaten and taken advantage of, and have yet to meet another person with good intentions. All I can say is shame on them, and now they have spawned a villan, further contiuning the cycle of hate within the community.

So, IMO, its not the game or the company that will kill this game, its the community itself.

Originally posted by sickan

 From my own pocket. Really, ~ $120 is like what? Eating out with a good beer/wine aside lol. Well, for me it was worth it, and I am no millionaire. But I spend more money than that when going out having fun with my pals. So yeah, for me it was worth it. If you can't afford it, don't buy it?

$120 for a good night out? WTF?If your spending $120 on a beer, I have some "fine wine"(moonshine) I'll sell ya for $500 then.

Originally posted by jatobi

Originally posted by Airphel

This is gonna be a mixed bag...

 

Kudos to SV for doing this before launch so the expected errors can be corrected, but so many 13 yo kids will still be screaming at downed servers even though its supposed to happen.

 

Downloads are done via torrent.

Thats nice. Play is via server.

This is gonna be a mixed bag...

Kudos to SV for doing this before launch so the expected errors can be corrected, but so many 13 yo kids will still be screaming at downed servers even though its supposed to happen.

Originally posted by Newname

Originally posted by Airphel

wtf? Can new topics not be introduced into the MO forums?

 

Derailed.

 

QFT.

 

Why does everything turn into an argument. People have to "be right" and can't just live with others thinking what they want to think.

 

Anyway,

MO,

bugged,

pretty much an empty landscape,

lag issues at times,

most "core features" not fully implemented.

 

Saying that i still gave them my money and hope to the heavens that this game pulls through. Darkfaller's arguing bout DFO being better despite a year out. Mo'ers arguing we're still in beta (i have to agree it is beta, but still considering release date, would have liked to see it a little further along)

 

Big patch on Thursday! Fingers crossed it delivers, i heard tales that it is gonna change the game quite abit - which i welcome. Just can't wait for these patch notes.

 

Oh btw, yes i am in beta atm, not just repeating common problems from forums.

Am I the only one that sees empty landscape as a plus?

Its a sandbox for gods sakes. That means plenty of room for player made cities and castles after release.

SB was nothing but open land after they would wipe a server, but give it 2 days and it was full of castles and areas that weren't worth going near if you valued your inventory.

wtf? Can new topics not be introduced into the MO forums?

Derailed.

Thx for all the rude comments. If you hate the game so much why are you in the forums for it?

I get it. Game sux, has no content, is glitchy, attracts bees, and has a 89% chance of giving you aids. I'll be sure to stay away then. Otherwise, the whole point of this thread was to just see who else is standing on the sidelines waiting to see what happens with this game, as an observer. Apparently it is best to stay on the sidelines, otherwise you'll get run over by the nay-sayer train.

See all you imagination-less pansies in wow then.

Originally posted by thinktank001

Originally posted by Airphel

 

What do you mean by content? I see lots of content, from an outsiders perspective (no, I refuse to PAY for beta).

It has crafting, house building, townships, open classes, exploration, and open pvp. That is grounds for open player economy and open player politics with open player territories. And by open territories, I mean OPEN. No set lines, only "Oh man x guild usually rolls around here and they are really defensive of their mines... better find a way around if we don't wanna die."

 

If by content you mean, quests and raids... I'm not interested and never have been. This obviously isn't one of those games and shouldn't be.

 

You are seriously misinformed.

Crafting -  Is not in.  There is currently a place holder ( npc ), and anyone can pretty much craft what they want.   Gathering ( the first half of crafting ) is also not finalized as nodes are still infinite.

However, the next update is supposed to add the finalized version.  Hopefully it will go well.

Housebuilding - Is there.  It is still a little buggy, but not bad.  Townships??  Certainly you can create your own community, but there isn't actually any game mechanics to promote a township.

Open Classes - Is not in.  Yes, you can be what you want, but there are no secondary skills to level up that would define yourself as a class.  Taming is about the closest thing to a class.  Thieving was in for a little bit, but was so buggy it was taken out.

Next update is supposed to introduc secondary skills, and hopefully it will go well.

Exploration, nope not there.  A different poster already explained to you.

Open PvP,  sorta there. Combat is still bugged and there really isn't any reason to PvP, except to PvP.  Kinda sound familiar..... D...A...R...K...F...A...L...L.   Granted that isn't such a bad reason except that MO wasn't designed with that intention. 

 

If somebody has other FACTUAL information ( a video/screenshot ) it might be a great time to share it.  

I guess you missed my point. I was speaking of post release. Not beta. Beta isn't a game, if you aren't aware as to what a beta is, it is used to test games before release and don't include full features. If you are playing it now and say it sucks, perhaps you should tell them about the bugs you encounter like a good beta tester would.

Originally posted by TheConfined

i dont think you get what I'm saying.....this game is fucking terrible...I've been in beta since day 1 and its still the worst MMO I've ever seen in my life and this has nothing to do with it being in beta.  There isn't any content at all in the game whatsoever...its a total fucking joke and a total embarrassment to the MMO genre and is a step backward in the progress of next generation MMO's.

What do you mean by content? I see lots of content, from an outsiders perspective (no, I refuse to PAY for beta).

It has crafting, house building, townships, open classes, exploration, and open pvp. That is grounds for open player economy and open player politics with open player territories. And by open territories, I mean OPEN. No set lines, only "Oh man x guild usually rolls around here and they are really defensive of their mines... better find a way around if we don't wanna die."

If by content you mean, quests and raids... I'm not interested and never have been. This obviously isn't one of those games and shouldn't be.

Who else out there is silently keeping track of this game to see what happens?

Once a week or so I log on to see if this game has been released yet, what things are going on with beta, and what people think of it.

I feel like this could be a good game, but will probly take a year or so of sheer-survival to get to greatness, if it even survives launch.

Another week goes by, no visible progress.

As all the hype has built, dropped, built again, dropped again, and now we're near release(?), will it sink or swim?

So many factors come to play here, some good, some bad, but it looks like if it can make it through the first 6mo to year, it might actually survive.

If it does survive, and become profitable, perhaps it could live up to its claims through patches.

I'm not sure if any of you theivery nay sayers have played other mmo titles that include theiveing, but some times you just have to band together and kill the bastards. Much like taking out the reds. Supply and demand. Too many theives(supply)=Kill the bastards(demand)

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC)

I do use WOW as a measuring stick. A stick to measure how much wow sucks.

Good usage of comparing McDonalds to WoW. McDonalds is crap, compared to an acutal gourmet resturant, even though it (the gourmet restaurant) dosen't and never will have as many patrons or as much profit as McD's, its still better.

Looks like Garrett never played ShadowBane.

it was all about "the hunt".

If HKO doesn't have any driving or big words my girlfriend might do well... might.

I could go on all day.