Originally posted by koranuso

Hello,

I got into the Beta last week and have been playing every chance I got.  Black Orc btw :).

Before I get into the Pros/Cons I want to say a quick word on the PvP I have seen. Though right now PvP is rewarding and fun. As soon as you max level and no longer earn XP for yourself I can see this becoming a bit of a grind since then the only thing you will get out of it is Realm points for the city and gear. I love that fact that I can PvP to level, but at 40 I am not sure. Maybe it'll be awesome though, it is just a worry I have right now.


Pros:

   1. UI is great, minimal modding needed if any.
   2. 100% drop rate on quest items.
   3. Lots of public quests available to join in. Usually 3+ per zone.
   4. Haven't seen an instance yet though I am only 15.
   5. 1v1 rarely happens. Always have to act as a group or your side fails.

Cons:

   1. I am really struggling to get used to the combat action delay. The closest game I have seen to this is LOTR where they que up abilities. It is hard to press an attack and not have it happen immediately. Makes it so I have to actually look at the buttons instead of the field of battle to figure out what's "plan" I am on.

   2. PQs get swarmed because they are not instanced. This really isn't worth addressing because the alternative of instanced PQs would be worse. Just have to accept that sometimes you can't do a PQ because there are too few people available and sometimes there are too many for it to be worth it.

   3. Vent guilds will absolutely destroy pugs in any RvR instance. And guilds on vent don't do RvR instances once. They grind them since they get XP and realm points for their side. Though I plan on doing exactly this, it will really frustrate non-guilded casual players if they ever step inside one of these RvR instances.



So overall I still plan on buying this game at release, but if at the end of Beta and the first free month I cannot adjust to the lack of twitch combat I may have to say goodbye . I shall try though cause the rest of the game is tops.

Figured I should add in some credentials.

I started with Lineage 2 as my first MMO. Left that for EQ2 when it released. Eventually succumbed to WoW for a couple years and explored everything in that game pre-BC when I quit. Until War I have been on hiatus from MMOs and just enjoying the nice single players.

War is probably my last chance at an MMO since it is getting harder and harder to justify spending all my free time in a game world as opposed to the real world.

 

To counter your point #1, you must not have played since the Combat Responsiveness patch was put in. I have 0 delay now on all of my characters.

Originally posted by Vepgenus

I have plenty of friends who have been in the WoWHammer Beta and have quit after 30 mins because the game was so horrible. Most atrocious are the WAR graphics which seem to have just been cut and pasted from the Blizzard manuals for WoW.

I have friends who used to be your friends but quit after 30 minutes because you smelled like your dads penis. Most atrocious are the zits that cover the surface of your skin and your inbreeding parents DNA which has been cut and pasted from their inbred parents.

See how I can make up stuff too?

Spacebar.

Soul Calibur IV
Call of Duty 4
Portal
Team Fortress 2
Mass Effect
Assassins Creed
Grand Theft Auto IV
Go See " Batman: The Dark Knight "
Go see " Tropic Thunder ".
Madden 2009
NCAA 2009
Watch the Olympics
Pick your nose
Do your laundry
Take a shower
Masturbate
Have Sex
Go Bowling
Play Paintball
Do some exercise

Ah.. I dunno. I can't think of anything.

Well I've been in closed beta for many months now and not ONCE during a RvR fight did I ever stand still and hammer on somebody. Most of the time they were moving and I was moving. No jumping though, who jumps around like that in a real fight? Maybe if when you jumped it looked like you evaded and not simply tried to do a lay up on a basketball hoop.

Orcs are not a race in Warhammer, Greenskins are. And there are 3 Greenskin careers. Thats like complaining how each career looks different for Chaos. It's just part of the game.

If it helps to know this at all, in the past new beta phases, they generally have started the new phase on Thursday morning.

Originally posted by ParkCarsHere

Originally posted by dmathewsfl

Originally posted by silveradond

From what ive read, in WAR, all the support/healer classes actually contribute alot of damage, as well as heal/buff others.

 

runepriests/zealots do piss poor damage, arch/shamans are more of a hybrid healer, i can actually put out some good dmg on my shaman and still be at the top of the healing, while a zealot/RP can definitely outheal, they wont come anywhere near the dmg

Interesting. I've been debating between a Zealot and Shaman, and have been leaning towards the Shaman due to the extra utility the damage allows. I'll be interested in hearing what Beta players have to say in comparing the two when the NDA is lifted.

It's actually a real easy choice. Zealots do less damage, more utility, more direct healing. Shamans do more damage, less utility than Zealots, less direct healing.

Well once you determine the play style then its an easy choice.

Originally posted by DapperBantam

Nos speaking of healing... you have the the shaman and archmage who can either cast heals or damage spells... casting damage spells gets some internal counter up and makes healing spells faster or cheaper or whatever... that info is still either under the NDA or i havent read it yet hehe... and vice versa... casting heals makes your damage spells better or faster or whatever... so kinda like this... i cast 5 damage spells on a enemy and then i can instant cast a "big" heal on a player... untill i get enough morale for a rank 2 tactic maybe that does an AoE heal... so it will be a very tactical way of healing...

 

Uh.... did you not see my post just a couple above yours? ONLY the SHAMAN increases their heals by doing damage spells. The Archmage is the OPPOSITE, they increase their heals by casting other heals. I've mentioned this multiple times on multiple boards over the last couple days, and no one believes me, then I show them the info from page 22 of the Gamespy blog that shows that I'm right. Anyways, sorry if that came off a little rude, lol, I just like people to have the correct information.

You're wrong. It works the exactly the same way as a shaman. I'm in closed beta.

Make sure you are logging in with Warpatch.exe and not warhammer.exe

Also you should really be posting this on the beta forums.

http://forums.eamythic.com

Originally posted by Capn23

This is bullshit and I will be canceling my CE.

 

Mythic has disappointed me beyond belief with this...

 

Beta: Applied

 

This is like a punch in the face and it cannot be rectified. Ever.

Boo f***ing hoo, you didnt get in beta so you're canceling your CE? You're some self centered asshole. They didn't gurantee you getting in the first or second wave, as a matter of fact, the CE getting in CLOSED beta is new. If you look on your card it says Open Beta access. Go ahead, cancel your CE. Someone else more worthy will receive it.

EDIT: Hahaha I didnt' read all the way down. Well that message is for whomever else bitches! Not meant for you Capn23

Yeah, lets play Theorycraft. That gets us everywhere. Seriously, you are entirely underinformed or misinformed, one of the two. Wait until the game comes out or the NDA drops.

Did you play DAoC? The game that popularized non instanced PvP combat? On every server there were different realms that did better than the other. There wasnt just 1 best realm. On Nimue where I played, we had the least players in Midgard also dominated in the RvR area.

BTW I'm an Elder in the Closed Beta.

Originally posted by Raizeen

its a wow clone afterall well surely have shiny big mounts eventualy

It may look like a clone visually to you, but it is far from it.

Yeah but it doesn't go with the lore and Mythic is working very closely to Games Workshop, owners of the Intellectual Property. They have to get a lot of stuff approved there first.

Originally posted by Grisu

i got a question, will the mounts be race specific or can i go and buy a dwarf mount if im an empire?

No you cannot do that.

Originally posted by Cryptor

 

boy oh boy is there going to be alot of disapointed people around.  Its a good thing not too many of you are able to play the beta or you woud have already moved on to new games.

Oh really? Thats funny because I'm in closed beta right now and I've already quit AoC to devote full time to beta'ing this game.

Originally posted by Silverthorn8

Why do you think they will? My understanding is they gave Mythic nearly full autonomy on this production.

The only danger thus far is the game being held back further than the Q4 schedule slated for this year-placing the game into a near vapourware status (think most of us are praying this won't happen).

Hope that answers your one dimensional question.

No, I don't think the game will be hindered by EA at all. As a matter of fact, its only benefitted from EA's deep pockets. EA knows the score here and will definitely let Mythic do their own thing.

By the way, I'm in closed beta.

Actually the first 20 levels of the game are not singleplayer/solo. I used to think they were also. The first hour of the game is solo. You CAN solo the first 20 levels but you dont have to.

Also the NDA is only lifted for the first 13 levels because THATS ALL YOU CAN PLAY IS THE FIRST 13 LEVELS. Thats the level cap.

I pass.

Q6600 (Quad Core) @ 3.6 GHZ

8800GT 512MB

2GB Ram

1 9600GT is not better than an 8800GTX, 2 9600GT's in SLI are better than an 8800GTX.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_9600_gt_sli_performance/page11.asp heres a review and benchmarks.