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How the fuck can that game be an aion killer? Seriously, try to be more specific about it. I can see blade and soul being an aion killer and B&S will also make tera online becoming a free game. |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 11:04:56 PM
Originally posted by Wizardry
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate. On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight. Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms. Umm i was a big UFC fan LONG before nerd boy Dana White took over. Wrestling has ALWAYS been the dominant ability in the UFC fight game.Dan the beast Severyn i doubt would throw more than 10 punches in 10 fights ,all he did was wrestle guys down and was the champion. Brock does the same thing,he just wrestles you down with his size.GSP,Silva considered the best in the world and neither one ever wins by Jiu Jitsu even though both are well schooled in it. I think Blade and Soul is more about cool .ani and effects,but it is run by NCSOFT,so no support from me. Brock lesnar lol. He use xteroids to be that shaped so i dont even want to count him. Usually, in real serious sport, he would get banned for using those xteroids, but since its for entertaning and they need money, UFC accept those poison. |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 9:22:31 PM
Originally posted by Krn_Assassin
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate. On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight. Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms. The promo trailer displayed grappling (armbar, gnp). The game includes all oriential martial arts like chinese boxing, tkd, karate, hapkido, aikido, judo, sambo (russia),jujutsu, etc.... The grappling you see in the 'UFC' is Kosen Judo (BJJ) originated from Japan. You also want to claim karate doesn't work in the 'UFC', well look at the LHW champion Lyoto Machida whose primary style is shotokan karate. Do your research before you spew more bs, cause Koreans KNOW their martial arts. Guess who dominates grappling (judo) in the olympics? South Korea, Japan and Russia. Greco-roman? Korea and Russia. So get your facts straight before you type nonsense.
Then basically, the base of everybaddy who want to learn a fighting style should master grapple 1st. Then, they can turn on something else and they are good. What im sick of seeing are DOJO that teach only karate, kung fu or stuff like taht without the basic fighting style, the grapple tecnic. Because of that, they end up get beat up just because they are not use by grappling situation or when they are fighting on the ground. But again, the problem is even DOJO that are run by elder taht teach karate, kung fu, others, they dont care about grappling. Thats a real problem because without that, we can beat all of them at their week point so easy unless they bring a weapon. What the the lil boys learn teal they are grown up is how to fight for sport or to make movies. If anyone had to learn how to fight for any situation, grappling tecnic is what they would have to learn 1st before their start learning their secondary fighting style. In UFC or stuff like that, a match can end under 30 sec with bad luck. This is how real it is. under 30 sec, you only had time to learn the stuff you mastered on the ground. |
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Originally posted by StrixMaxima
1 - Not even sure why would you write that. So, I'll leave it at that. 2 - I cannot say for sure what do the Devs listen. However, since we are in a forum, I think it is productive to have both sides represented. If my posts ever reach someone who might be able to objectively act on them, great. If not, the post have already done its job: to debate an issue and to present a point. As my original post in this thread point out, I care enough to acknowledge and form a judgement, but I don't care enough to let this interfere in my decision to play or not. It might sound a little contradictory, but hey, I'm human. Tasos is also a human so he can make some mistakes. Should i hate you because you claim you are a human, what type of race dont you hate? |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 4:35:45 PM
Originally posted by deltarevan Chuck actually took Tang Soo Do which is a Korean martial art, though he has taken various martial arts i believe. I do mma, and lemme tell u Jiujitsu is not perfect(also have done muay thai). UFC is not a real fight, in a real fight, there are no rules. Have u actually been in a real fight? If someone who knows enough kung fu/taekwondo/karate, they will go for pressure points, u don't need to be on the ground to break someones arm either. Kung Fu and karate are not for movies only. Like i said, in a real fight there are no rules, kung fu/taekwondo/karate will also use eye gouges and other "underhanded" techniques. I sparred one of my friends who is a 3rd degree dan blackbelt in Taekwondo, i was able to hold my own, but when we went to the ground he used pressure points and got me to submit. There are not trained just for stand up, thats what they prefer, but they can hold their own on the ground too. I love martial arts games as long as they are not too grindy, Im playin Jade Dynasty right now and it's pretty decent.
Well, i played football and i use to watch weslting most of the time. I chalanged my friend who karate to a streetfight,( he got the black belt) All i did was rushing at him to bring him to the ground trying to find how i could lock him and once i did, it was over. At round 2, he could last longer since he knew what i would do, but his guard was even more focused because he scare of me trying to take him down again. He end up not even knowing how he will strike me because i could like grab his leg and make him drop, take his arm and strugle to make him drop or i could simply lock him while he was still standing. BTW, my post on what fighting style is stronger is from what i saw from youtube. Look at those videos for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxeFRjwpaYQ There are bunch of other jiu jetsu video in this channel that beat up other class. Some even tried to put some vasiline on them so the jiu jetsu would slide on them. The fight was so serious that even the crowd tried to cheat to make their kick boxing fighter win like in this one http://www.youtube.com/user/PedroLMariano2#p/search/18/KiWjvbS1pss Skip the video to 2:50. This is a real fight without any rules, even the crowd is so crazy that you have the feeling that they all want to beat up the guy that do jiu jetsu. Well where did your friend take karate? There are tons of dime a dozen places that basically hand you a black belt after you pay so much money, a real black belt takes at the very least 5 years, if u do it really seriously. Kick boxing is crap, i hate it when people compare it to muay thai, cuz muay thai is so much more brutal. What u did with that friend is what we would call sparring, a real streetfight is against someone u hate, or someone who is really pissed at u. A fight where they are trying to put u in the hospital or u them. If you are smart, and you have trained and learned a ton, size does not matter either, and sometimes age. At the person above, i have only played JD up to lvl 25 so i wouldnt know what u are talking about, though from what u said, it sounds like i might be quitting it.
Real fight always end up on the ground. the trained one who do karate, kung fu or what ever, vs guy that is bigger on the street, once the fight start, both of them stand up and fight. After a moment, the bigger guy will get on rage because all his strike get block and he always get countered so easily. The bigger guy will then rush at the karate kid or something. Since he is bigger, he will be able to make him drop to the ground and the one who win on the ground win the fight. Its a faq that jiu jitsu and judo are the best fighting style for streetfighting. Fighting style like kung fu are made for movies. Any smart person should rely on jiu jetsu or what ever style that rely on grapple. If you want to do streetfight while standing for the whole fight, you better carry a baseball bat im telling you. The video i posted early are realy streetfight(I mean, no rules) The kung fu man didnt had a chance because the jiu jetsu guy make him drop on the ground once the fight started. So all the his kung fu tecnic that he learn for so many years was useless in that fight. When you see a real one on one fight, kung fu master vs kung fu master or karate vs karate, both will try to focus on the open way to strike, block while standing or stuff like that. Both on them in a one on one wait for the right timing. The jiu jitsu or any grapple style fighters dont have time for those bull shit. Once the fight start, they will jump on you and make you fall on the ground to end it the fastest way possible. There are millions of faq that will prove you that grapple fighting style are the best for streetfight. |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 12:18:11 PM
Originally posted by deltarevan
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate. On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight. Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms. Chuck actually took Tang Soo Do which is a Korean martial art, though he has taken various martial arts i believe. I do mma, and lemme tell u Jiujitsu is not perfect(also have done muay thai). UFC is not a real fight, in a real fight, there are no rules. Have u actually been in a real fight? If someone who knows enough kung fu/taekwondo/karate, they will go for pressure points, u don't need to be on the ground to break someones arm either. Kung Fu and karate are not for movies only. Like i said, in a real fight there are no rules, kung fu/taekwondo/karate will also use eye gouges and other "underhanded" techniques. I sparred one of my friends who is a 3rd degree dan blackbelt in Taekwondo, i was able to hold my own, but when we went to the ground he used pressure points and got me to submit. There are not trained just for stand up, thats what they prefer, but they can hold their own on the ground too. I love martial arts games as long as they are not too grindy, Im playin Jade Dynasty right now and it's pretty decent.
Well, i played football and i use to watch weslting most of the time. I chalanged my friend who karate to a streetfight,( he got the black belt) All i did was rushing at him to bring him to the ground trying to find how i could lock him and once i did, it was over. At round 2, he could last longer since he knew what i would do, but his guard was even more focused because he scare of me trying to take him down again. He end up not even knowing how he will strike me because i could like grab his leg and make him drop, take his arm and strugle to make him drop or i could simply lock him while he was still standing. BTW, my post on what fighting style is stronger is from what i saw from youtube. Look at those videos for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxeFRjwpaYQ There are bunch of other jiu jetsu video in this channel that beat up other class. Some even tried to put some vasiline on them so the jiu jetsu would slide on them. The fight was so serious that even the crowd tried to cheat to make their kick boxing fighter win like in this one http://www.youtube.com/user/PedroLMariano2#p/search/18/KiWjvbS1pss Skip the video to 2:50. This is a real fight without any rules, even the crowd is so crazy that you have the feeling that they all want to beat up the guy that do jiu jetsu. |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 12:03:54 PM
Originally posted by arctarus
War got 300k subs so you cant call it a failure. The same number as Eve online atleast. |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 12:00:52 PM
OP is right and if you think he is wrong about the grind, name me one asian mmorpg without boring grind. There are none. The game seem great and all, but what will happen at the end of the product? The game will be great, but the only type of players that will enjoy the game will be the no life grinders, players that can possibly bot without getting cut or macro. Other problem the game may have, they wont even listen to the american communoty. They will only listen to those who like to grind and this is the asian communoty. While you american will grind so hard, ncsoft will have the time to add even more grind just to please the asians. For example, gunz the duel is a great game.(Its not even an mmorpg, an fps type of game) but, you have to grind to get more gears and all so the game can be more fun and so you can own more. So i left like most of the gunz players for that. Its not because an mmorpg gameplay can be great that it mean it will end up being great to any type of players. Im just saying. |
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Another freaking Kung Fu MMO with a lame leveling grind
General Discussion « Blade & Soul 12/03/09 11:47:14 AM
Originally posted by Cik_Asalin
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate. On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight. Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms. |
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I did some little search on videos and feature and the game seem great. I like to diss some game to say how it sux like how tera online sux, but B&S, i just cant hate it teal i try it myself. And again, it still an other asian mmo so i rather get a free beta spot or a trial before i think about buying it because i dont want to waste my money and found out that the grind is so horrible that it make me ragequit. PVP seem to be the focus and interesting and tahts what i like about the game. But still, i kind of hate the hentai woman character style.(I do like porn, i used to watch hentai), but games are for different stuff ya know what i mean? At the moment, the only good reason i found for B&S to be made is to kill tera online so ppl wont even heard of that game lol. |
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Originally posted by M1nas-z3u No, but more realistic then that and they would look like sportive woman that wear stuff to go to war instead of being half naked soft skin like a baby and looking like a model that got no muscles, this is not the look of a strong woman. Age of conan type of woman are well done for example. Also, you saw it, i saw it, they got super big boobies for woman that know how to fight. I wonder what is the max possibility when creating your woman characters. Breasts plates is getting old, mini skirt so we can see their panties that easy, come on. You know how asian woman that know how to fight should look like? Exacly like those from streetfighter atleast because nothing is exaggerated on them.
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Originally posted by parrotpholk Anytime I see his name in an interview I start to cringe but that was focused and not bad on paras part. Good deal and will be interested in what the expansion does for the game. I resubbed today on my own and met a couple nice folk in the dwarf area. Will look forward to logging in again on Friday.
You should atleast start to respect tasos because he just proved in his part that he really start to listen to his player base like no other company do. Other rich company only answer questions from the proffessional because they are all sell out. |
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Originally posted by talonzero
I just cliked on your link, i was anticipated by that game, but again, what type of audience they are trying to attract? I mean, look at those woman. They pretty much look like any woman from an hentai movie. I wont start my hate on that now, i will keep on reading for that game, but they already cross the 1st rule to make a korean mmo. (Woman, hentai style.) Now, i have to keep on reading about the grind and other stuff to see if its really an other korean mmo to forget about. |
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I hope this game will be pvp focus with a risk vs reward system and i dont want any instanced pvp. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l370xBsch2E |
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One thing that worries me about the Dynamic Lore System
General Discussion « Darkfall 12/01/09 9:34:58 PM
I rather see name like pker1456 pwning noobs or stuff like that rather then seing RPers name because that way, you can easly tell the difference if its a player name or lore character name. |
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The 100 players per server is GENIOUS!!
General Discussion « All Points Bulletin (APB) 12/01/09 4:16:46 PM
When APB will be release, i hope they will one day do an expansion to bring more players in 1 server like 200, 300, 500 and even more teal we get a super ultra huge city with 1000 players. That would be great. |
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Originally posted by Xianthos
Yeah beating a guy who got absolutly no chance against you. Yeah its soooo satisfying! Ganging NEW hammlet / town knowing that there are only newbs is aswell extreeeeeeemly satisfying. Ah before i forget patrouling starter towns area for newbs and ganking them is aswell veeeeeerrrryyy satisfying. Hmm did i forgot anything?
You know whats more satisfaying about taht? 1 word, apocalyptic. I like the danger of DF. When i was a newb, i always got chased by stronger players, but i did like the feeling of the danger. Being a newb for me is like playing in a horror movie. Even if i never played UO or games like taht, since my 1st day, i knew that the bank would be my best friend. The good feeling you should get to keep playing is knowing that one day, it should be your turn to be a killer like jason. For myself, it make pve more interesting. I hate wow because its too easy. well, DF is the hard mode for me and i always play games at the hardest option possible. |
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Myself, i never played a sandbox pvp game with full loot before DF, but pvp is how i like to spend my time. FPS games, fighting game like streetfighter or any online game taht you have to compete vs other players or console games to spend time with your friends each weekends is what make my time enjoyable. 1 day, one of my friend introduced me to wow and after i hit lvl 70, i left because i was really not into a time of pve where it never end and i didnt like that type of instanced pvp. So when i read about DF plus the FPS gameplay, open world pvp plus real consequences for dying and reward to kill any player, i was really anticipated and it turned out like i wanted it to be. I just didnt like the grind, so i left and i rejoin again when they got reed of it with the 3x exp |
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OK no kidding this time: I BOUGHT THE GAME yesterday....
General Discussion « Darkfall 11/30/09 9:23:32 PM
Welcome to DF, but i suggest you to join a clan once you get bored in game. |
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