I'm playing from Puyallup WA

And I rolled a Alfar.. which is something I may change.  I'm not a fan of the starting area as one of the goblin camps is sort of .. in a huge ravine.  The troll spawn is nice though, I have to say I haven't been able to find it 3 times..

Oh.. and it seems that where I may the comment that, a certain fanboy, who generally states that anyone who doesn't like darkfall isn't worthy of playing it, wasn't worthy to post on my thread was edited.   

Hmm..

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Random_mage

And I have to say.. I'm not that impressed. 

the world is huge, with few spawns.  It makes it feel empty. I do like the look of everything though, I think the scenary is nice.  The combat is Meh.. It's not the variety that's lacking, it's the purpose.  In AC you kill to get loot (at a certain level) and in DF is feels much the same.  

I didn't PvP as there really wasn't much purpose yet, no point to control a spawn.. no town control.. no loot control..

I'll keep playing it for the rest of the month and let you know how it goes. 

 But you aware of the fact that if a fan has written this exact same thing in green. A swarm of haters (including you) would appear and bully him ?

And now go play for more then a few hours..

 

You are actually wrong.  {mod edit}

Originally posted by APEist

 I hover between 140-150 ping and I kill EU'rs all the time.

You've been playing for what... a few days?

When you get good, you'll realize it's not ping making the difference 90% of the time.

 

Now, granted, when you fight someone who is on exactly the same level as you... yes, they will win if they have an EU ping.

That's the thing.. my ping is 250+ generally.  that extra hundred ping makes a huge d ifference.

Loot control is the ability to control a specific thing or resource to keep your opponent from getting it.  For example a single spawn of something.. or something that drops an abundance of a resource, while it's sparce everywhere else.

Originally posted by APEist

 If you paid money for it, I hope it turns out that you enjoy it.

I'm not sure why you would have spent money on something you have posted against so many times in the past, however.

Maybe you were given the account or playing on a friends?  If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised if you were simply seeking hater-credentials.

never bashed darkfall.. I've only posted negative things against the fanboys, AV, and Tasos.. I've always had the intentions of buying the game.   It's the only way you can decide if you like something or not.

EDIT: Although I'm leaning further and further away due to ping.  It just makes the game.. not all that fun.  it's an Real time where.. ping actually makes you dead or alive.

And I have to say.. I'm not that impressed. 

the world is huge, with few spawns.  It makes it feel empty. I do like the look of everything though, I think the scenary is nice.  The combat is Meh.. It's not the variety that's lacking, it's the purpose.  In AC you kill to get loot (at a certain level) and in DF is feels much the same.  

I didn't PvP as there really wasn't much purpose yet, no point to control a spawn.. no town control.. no loot control..

I'll keep playing it for the rest of the month and let you know how it goes. 

Well.. let's see how this koolaid tastes..

Originally posted by solareus

Pc Gaming, since 1985.

 

Gold farming can, aproximately, be divided into three phases[1]:

* Phase 1/Commercialisation: online game players began to barter items during the 1980s. At some point in the late 1980s, in-game items began to be sold for money. Full commercialisation began in 1997 due to two factors: the launch of Ultima Online as the first true MMORPG, and the launch of eBay. Gold farming was still a relatively small activity: a cottage industry undertaken by players in the US and Europe who saw a way to make extra money.

* Phase 2/Offshoring: from 2001/2002, entrepreneurs in the US and South Korea saw the opportunity to make more money from gold farming by hiring players working on low-cost locations; especially China. One brokerage in particular, IGE, was massively successful, earning millions of dollars per month, and dominating the market.

* Phase 3/Challenges: from 2005/2006, gold farming faced a series of challenges: game companies began to ban accounts and take legal action; eBay was persuaded to stop listing online game currency and items; games were redesigned to make gold farming and trading much harder; and entry of lots of new firms led online currencies to devalue heavily against real currencies. Lots of new brokerages, each with their own web portals and customer relations teams, were set up. Gold farms began to shift to lower-cost locations.
 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_farming

 

Seasoned mmo players arent going to come on a forum and cry about something that has been apart of gaming since the nintendo, cheating happens, get over it, there is nothing special about this exploit over any other exploit in any genre. It is apart of gaming and If you fail at knowing this then you must be new to games online in the past week.

Wow.. way to prove my point.  That is.. Gold FARMING was NOT the norm.. and neither should hacking. What part don't you get??? 95% of companies take action to stop hacking.  They look at the root of the problem, they handle things server side.. The only threat from aventurine is: If we catch you hacking you are banned.. See the phrase there? CATCH??   Another shil who dismisses AV's ways to further empower them to behave badly.

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by someforumguy

Why is this thread this running lol? WSIMIke won this debate pages ago. He clearly proved, using AV's quotes, how they failed to deliver the promised PVE content. All the rabid fanboy's drivel and how they think the game should be are totally off-topic. Like my post :p

 

Disagree, there is plenty of PVE content in Darkfall, atm. 

I disagree, polar bears are left handed.

Originally posted by Gordro

This thread seems to be populated by the majority of people who don't play Darkfall and don't like the idea of it.

So?

 

Don't play it

 

The game is full of people who do play and do like it. Enough people that there isnt room for more at the moment.

Demand of this game easily outstrips supply, so It is not going to fail.

DFO caters to the people who like what it has. You don't, thats fine, forget it exists and play something else.

 

What most of you need to do is get used to the fact that other people have differing opinions and likes/dislikes to you.

 

I really dont understand how humans can trash people who think differently to them.

FANBOY SPOTTED! How can I tell???
 

"This thread seems to be populated by the majority of people who don't play Darkfall and don't like the idea of it."

Another fanboy who decides that because we don't like the way AV handles the game, that we don't like the idea of it! Atta fanboy.. Ignorance is bliss!!!   GTFO

Originally posted by solareus

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by solareus

Same  hack can be used in warhammer online , this is not a specific issue with darkfall online but in all games that have some kind of pvp ranking system :

www.youtube.com/watch

 

In WAR when you die.. Do you lose all of your gear?  (don't answer that)

 

Point: Hacking in DF hurts people more than hacking in WAR.

You ack like this is all new to mmorpgs , hacking has been apart of the genre as much as gold farmers. You either learn to except, or go play something else. I've never seen people act like this has never happened in Lineage 2 or Shadowbane, or any other game where you can lose your gear.

here is atip :)

Learn to Bank :)

You must be new to the genre within the last 5 or 6 years.  Gold Farmers were NOT common practice.  Hacking was NOT a common practice (exploiting was though, and Most Respectable Companies would turn back the server when to where the exploit wasn't hampering the server)

You'd also see companies dealing with hackers in a different way.. like: Implementing Software on their server to detect cheats, Shut down the server until they could figure out when was being exploited/recoded.

Also, hacking in those games wasn't as wide spread due to the client/server interaction.  GG.

Originally posted by solareus

Same  hack can be used in warhammer online , this is not a specific issue with darkfall online but in all games that have some kind of pvp ranking system :

www.youtube.com/watch

In WAR when you die.. Do you lose all of your gear?  (don't answer that)

Point: Hacking in DF hurts people more than hacking in WAR.

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Cereo

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by WSIMike 

True to character, you take any response, and attempt to twist and distort it with your non stop spin-doctoring, willful ignorance and irrelevant statements.

I'm done trying to talk logic to you. I've proven the point I set out to with the first post, including the quotes directly from AV. Yours, Javac's and any other fanboy's attempt to spin it into something else are just more of the same.

 

 

 

Perhaps you see it this way, but in my view, you simply miss the point...

You are quite possibly the dumbest person on these forums I have ever seen. Mike explained things more calmly and clearly than I would ever spend the time to do and still you virtually learned nothing. I honestly hope that you are playing a huge prank on the forums and just want to entice people, otherwise I am amazed you are able to turn your computer on and install a video game on your computer.
 

OP statement is entirely correct, there is nothing else to say. You are the one missing the point, countless people have told you so.

Not a matter of "learning".

He simply ignores and dismisses whatever doesn't suit his "personal view" of DF.

 

 

And you simply ignore the fact that to me, that is the only view that actually matters...

Bingo! And let any contradicting facts be damned... or simply ignored in your case.

Like I said... enjoy your swim in Lake Ignorance.

You have confirmed exactly what I said in my last response to you.

You are blissfully lost in your own little world.

And on that, I rest my case.

 

 

What facts?

 

You have presented a total of none.

Yep.. clearly a troll who posts direct FAQ's from Aventurine.. Wait.. Are you saying Aventurine is lying???  I mean they are the ones that said there were other things to do for the non-pvp person.. How dare they post something contrary to your view of darkfall!!! Those bastards!!!!!!
 

Wait..

Originally posted by sanders01

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by bryan1980

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by bryan1980

Originally posted by Czzarre

Originally posted by vivacaligula

imho I think they are defending it so strongly just because it is nothing like WoW... and to many people thats enough... i have yet to be able to play the game yet so my opinion doesn't really matter but my hopes are that other ''sandbox'' games will be able to learn from darkfalls highpoints and lowpoints

 

I think that is an insightful observation. However, I dont think that players who enjoy this game are all 'deluded'

Some people actualy like Darkfall even with its flaws. Yet we berate them for it as if we were scolding a small child. NOt everyone is a 'Fanboi', they are just players.

 

Basically this is true.   If you create a game and hype it as hardcore, sandbox,  make it FFA pvp with full loot and you will find 10,000 who will play it.   Out of  100 million people playing online games now, if you create the 'fight' between trolls and fanboys,  it is easy to find 10,000 people who will fight for your game after launch just because of their pre-launch hope... ie ego.

Your comment about players not all being deluded is spot on.  The problem is 'for how long'.   Almost every mmorpg is fun for the first few weeks... what will kill darkfall is what is killing warhammer...  very soon even the most hardcore pvpers will say " is this it? are we just going to run around naked month after month fighting the same towns/people".   There just are not enough gameplay and features in Darkfall to make it a real MMORPG... while people probably really do find it fun now.. will they really think it's fun after they've recaptured the same town 50 times in the next month?

 

Sadly, Counter-Strike wishes to argue about the "fun for a few weeks" The maps are all the same repeated over and over again.. and there are thousands upon thousans of people who play Counter-Strike..

 

Yeah, except Counter-strike doesn't have a monthly fee.   Darkfall is like a half-assed version of a FPS, but it charges a monthly fee and has more hacks and exploits.

 

Ding ding ding ding.. We Have a winner!!!!!!!

When in an FPS do you build your own city to defend? (Half assed feature in the game, but nontheless a feature), and when in an FPS did you gain levels and change your gear? When in an FPS did you use dipolmacy? When in an FPS did you accually "own" territory that wasn't instanced in lobbies? When in an FPS do you interact with more than 32 people at a time? GG its very much  like Counter-Strike with the exception of its major features.

1. nope.. you're right. I've never built a city in CS

2. I'm playing a mod for CS right now, and I gain levels.  currently, I'm rank3 with 6 badges. (I thought you didn't gain levels in DF?? What kind of fanboy are you??)

3.  I don't use diplomacy in CS. aside from scrimages..

4.  In the above mentioned CS, I'm capturing flags.. it's fun.

5. 64 person server is fun.  Oh.. no lag..

GG..

Originally posted by bryan1980

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by bryan1980

Originally posted by Czzarre

Originally posted by vivacaligula

imho I think they are defending it so strongly just because it is nothing like WoW... and to many people thats enough... i have yet to be able to play the game yet so my opinion doesn't really matter but my hopes are that other ''sandbox'' games will be able to learn from darkfalls highpoints and lowpoints

 

I think that is an insightful observation. However, I dont think that players who enjoy this game are all 'deluded'

Some people actualy like Darkfall even with its flaws. Yet we berate them for it as if we were scolding a small child. NOt everyone is a 'Fanboi', they are just players.

 

Basically this is true.   If you create a game and hype it as hardcore, sandbox,  make it FFA pvp with full loot and you will find 10,000 who will play it.   Out of  100 million people playing online games now, if you create the 'fight' between trolls and fanboys,  it is easy to find 10,000 people who will fight for your game after launch just because of their pre-launch hope... ie ego.

Your comment about players not all being deluded is spot on.  The problem is 'for how long'.   Almost every mmorpg is fun for the first few weeks... what will kill darkfall is what is killing warhammer...  very soon even the most hardcore pvpers will say " is this it? are we just going to run around naked month after month fighting the same towns/people".   There just are not enough gameplay and features in Darkfall to make it a real MMORPG... while people probably really do find it fun now.. will they really think it's fun after they've recaptured the same town 50 times in the next month?

 

Sadly, Counter-Strike wishes to argue about the "fun for a few weeks" The maps are all the same repeated over and over again.. and there are thousands upon thousans of people who play Counter-Strike..

 

Yeah, except Counter-strike doesn't have a monthly fee.   Darkfall is like a half-assed version of a FPS, but it charges a monthly fee and has more hacks and exploits.

Ding ding ding ding.. We Have a winner!!!!!!!

Originally posted by LogothX

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by cukimunga

LOL thats just to funny....... People complain about not having a hardcore FFAPVP Full Loot game and then when they get one they are to scared to put gear on so they can't get ganked..... lol I just can't help myself I have to laugh at that.

 

 

 

It's because gear doesn't make you any better in darkfall... You know what other game gear doesn't make you better?

Counter-Strike.

 

... I'm pretty sure you actually buy gear in counterstrike, and I'm pretty sure it's necessary.

The point is that a guy who's a really good shot with a Deagle will still kill someone who's not a good shot with AWP.. Gear doesn't make the player, it helps them. 

Originally posted by alderdale

If you had never heard of Darkfall and it suddenly came out today in its current state would this forum be any different? Are all the negative verses positive posts just because the pre-hype promises were never full-filled?

If this game landed unexpectedly in our laps while eating a sandwich and we went wtf is this? Installed and logged in would we be awestruck with our find? I wonder.

I'll be honest.. No.  I would have done a little research to see what Darkfall was about (Ie, if I'd never heard of it).  I would have then gone out and tried to buy a copy.  I'd probably spend a lot less time flaming Aventurine and Tasos, because their bullshit wouldn't have been shoved down our throats a bout how great Darkfall is/was for the past 8 years. 

I mean, hell, the game looks good on paper, and Tasos is great at selling lies..

Originally posted by prow

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by Tekton

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by prow

Just another example of the BS going on...

www.youtube.com/watch

 (WATCH IN HD)

Hmm....

 

Edit... Seems they are not even banning the hackers...

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

 

Darkfall is a perfect game.  It released right on time. there are no hacks there, the person in that video is just an illusion put together by trolls who want to tarnish Tasos' good name.  You are just a troll for pointing out an imperfection in the most perfect game of all time.

 

Wow I sincerely hope my sarcasm radar is working as intended...

 

Darkfall = Perfection, anyone who says different is just a troll who hasn't played the game.  Darkfall is life, life is Darkfall.  Tasos is my idol.  He has never lied or misspoke.  Darkfall's AI is super advanced, and the game is teeming with life, because it's the greatest thing ever (even greater than sex, I'm sure. I've been so obsessed with Darkfall that i've never had any), so, anyone who says anything different is just a troll who's never played Darkfall.

 

/disagree

 

Being a ex-darkfail person, thank god that torture is over... sounds like your in a cult sir

Clearly you've never played Darkfall, or you'd never leave your basement of your mom's house again.   Not even to get the pizza.

I've got some bad news for you.  Darkfall is 50 bucks (or there abouts, it's like 32 euro which is about 50 american dollars).  Although the store says "temporary offline" , in actuality, it's very rarely online.   So, don't be surprise if you have trouble buying a copy. 

Originally posted by Tekton

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by prow

Just another example of the BS going on...

www.youtube.com/watch

 (WATCH IN HD)

Hmm....

 

Edit... Seems they are not even banning the hackers...

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

 

Darkfall is a perfect game.  It released right on time. there are no hacks there, the person in that video is just an illusion put together by trolls who want to tarnish Tasos' good name.  You are just a troll for pointing out an imperfection in the most perfect game of all time.

 

Wow I sincerely hope my sarcasm radar is working as intended...

Darkfall = Perfection, anyone who says different is just a troll who hasn't played the game.  Darkfall is life, life is Darkfall.  Tasos is my idol.  He has never lied or misspoke.  Darkfall's AI is super advanced, and the game is teeming with life, because it's the greatest thing ever (even greater than sex, I'm sure. I've been so obsessed with Darkfall that i've never had any), so, anyone who says anything different is just a troll who's never played Darkfall.

Originally posted by prow

Just another example of the BS going on...

www.youtube.com/watch

 (WATCH IN HD)

Hmm....

 

Edit... Seems they are not even banning the hackers...

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

Darkfall is a perfect game.  It released right on time. there are no hacks there, the person in that video is just an illusion put together by trolls who want to tarnish Tasos' good name.  You are just a troll for pointing out an imperfection in the most perfect game of all time.