I just had to throw in my two cents.

The arguments on here I see about "Vets can die!" are posted by vets, who are dying to newbs, thus making the newbs can be vets arguments valid from their perspective. Likewise, the  newbs that can't be the vets are dying to vets.

It's simple, just like any game, those who have more experience playing the game, will be those who don't. Not only do they have higher skills and more health, but they also have time played.  

Darkfall is a fun game. I played for a while, had to macro up skills, and quit. I don't want to macro to play a game.  Then they nerfed macroing (after several people benefited from it).  

I like the openess of Darkfall, but I dislike the "elite" players calling everyone else "bad".  This game is perfect fro you. Stay here. Please. 

I wouldn't mind of the game went free to play. I don't play anymore, but would pop in to see how the F2P system worked.  The biggest problem with free to play is the looky loo.  The ones who'll pop in, see what it is, and leave. Basically, just non-commital people.

 It'd like to see it sort of like the f2p anarchy online model.  Full basic content access. All classes, proffessions, and diplomacy open.  Catch? have vanguard release an expansion.  Expansion requires subscriptions, and payment.  You can choose not to play the expansion, and play for free.   Sure.. have item shops for flying special mounts, or cosmetic changes, but don't provide any other benefits.

I don't like the idea of a f2p server and a p2p server.  the f2p servers don't have anything to look forward to, while the p2p server still dwindles.

I played Df a long time ago.. never really fan of the people behind the game, but I gave it a try when it came out, just like everyone else..

I was very disappointed that Av rewarded those that  Macro'd and exploited their way up to the higher realms of gameplay, while severaly hampering new players in competing by killing their ability to macro..or at least use newb weapons to .. Ehh.. and my ping was so terrible that I had trouble playing the game..  But.. with the release of the NA server, I thought I might come back and give it a try..   I haven't migrated yet..

Which brings me to my questions.

1. Do I need to purchase Darkfall NA client, or do I get to keep my EU account and xfer to NA without rebuying the game?

2. I read they changed the game play mechanics so that it was possible to just "play the game" and become better where as before you really had to grind your skills to become any better.  I guess what I'm saying is can Darkfall be a play every other day game and still have it be fun?

Thanks for your time.

Originally posted by asdar

troll for sure.

You can't tell me someone has been playing on Europe and didn't know this information.

Either troll or slow in the wits, in which case I apologize.

.. yeah.. must be slow because I thought aventurine was an honest company..

Haven't been playing do to horrible ping, change in family, and just straight frustration with aventurine. I bought the game about a month after it came out, was pissed when I was so far behind due to exploits and macroing that aventurine "fixed", terrible and ping, then decided that I didn't like playing the game the way it was currently .. And from the looks of it.. I am still not going to be playing Darkfall. 

Hmm.. again loose speak covers the butts of a lying company..

If I wanted to play DF on the NA server, I'd be charged another 50 bucks if I wanted to play today?  My only other option would be to wait till transfers are available?..

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Aguitha

I'm not a hater, i'm just being realistic about that crappy game.   When a company lies and lies and takes over 10 years to release a game that has 1% of what was promises, dont you have the right to be disapointed in them ?   Game is a POS period.   To answer the OP question, the whole MMO genre right now is very dull and boring.  It's all seems to be the same old thing all over again.   So i havent played a MMO in over 6 months.  Right now i'm playing Fallout 3.

 

You start with  "I'm not a hater" and every statement follows contradict  that.

"Fallout 3" is not even a MMO.

 

Darth,

The OP doesn't say MMO.  He says GAME.  I understand that english isn't your first language, but Game is NOT the same as MMORPG.  An MMORPG is a type of GAME just as FPS is a type of GAME.

 

And I'm playing AC.  Have you ever tried to play a Martyr mage?? it ain't easy..   Or fun.  I'm also playing a mace guy with no melee D as it's useless in the first few levels anyways (no stamina..)

 

Unlike you the poster i quoted has a better understanding on the nature of the question.

See  here

"To answer the OP question, the whole MMO genre right now is very dull and boring."

Because he was not able to find something enjoyble MMO game he has to play single player game.

I just point that out, the fact that he has to refer to another genre is to understand that way that  poster dont like MMO in general not DF in particullar.

 

The nature of the question, and is actually asked are two different things.  One might say I like cars, and in context, someone else might say.. Hot wheels aren't my thing..
 

The point is.. with the context of the question, you point out the Fallout isn't an MMO.. which was never the question.  It was .. "What game are you playing". I spoke nothing to the person's post you quoted, in regards to the reply that you made.  And, in the MMORPG forums, the topic was game, and we'll classify that as the computer/console type of game.

And the only difference between fallout and DF, in regards to genre, is the MMO part.  both are classified by their respective makers as -RPG.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

As for me DF has ben released with the "right" set of features and i don't miss anything.

Would be some funny experience to not be able to hit cause wind has carried my arrow away from the target or it would annoy me, i am sure many would whine about that too, would be neat to see someone run to his house in safety .,.no..no these would annoy me, i dont want that in.

Would be neat to set a trap to catch a bear, it would annoy me to see every meter around my city and every gate plastered with traps.

It would be neat having a pet or NPC do the work for me, i guess it would annoy YOU having to deal with my NPC army/summons.

It would be cool if i could run as fast as a mount as mahirim then you guys, would it forced you to choose mahirim too so everyone would be mahirim ?

It would be cool if anyone just sell things to anyone without having to meet , oh wait...

I think the developers cut off the right features and delivered a better experience.

 

Darth, you have to be honest with yourself.  If Darkfall crashed your computer, stole your car, and kicked your ass, you'd love it.  If Tasos through paint at a wall, drew a stick figure and wrote "I pvp" over his head.. You'd love it.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Aguitha

I'm not a hater, i'm just being realistic about that crappy game.   When a company lies and lies and takes over 10 years to release a game that has 1% of what was promises, dont you have the right to be disapointed in them ?   Game is a POS period.   To answer the OP question, the whole MMO genre right now is very dull and boring.  It's all seems to be the same old thing all over again.   So i havent played a MMO in over 6 months.  Right now i'm playing Fallout 3.

 

You start with  "I'm not a hater" and every statement follows contradict  that.

"Fallout 3" is not even a MMO.

Darth,

The OP doesn't say MMO.  He says GAME.  I understand that english isn't your first language, but Game is NOT the same as MMORPG.  An MMORPG is a type of GAME just as FPS is a type of GAME.

And I'm playing AC.  Have you ever tried to play a Martyr mage?? it ain't easy..   Or fun.  I'm also playing a mace guy with no melee D as it's useless in the first few levels anyways (no stamina..)

I like the graphics in Darkfall.  They are nice. and do the job well.  I also like the graphics in AC.. they serve their purpose.

I never found the game to be .. lacking becaues of the things it promised.  It was lacking due to the repeditive game play.  It's amateurish at best.  A game is supposed to be fun, not a grind to experience the game.  The game rewarded cheaters.. and continues to by not fixing things that were exploited without the help of 3rd party programs.  The lack of actual content makes the game feel very grindy.  I found myself logging on, killing skeltons for 15 minutes to level up my skills by .01 point (that is assuming I didn't die and lose my store bought weapon), taking the loot and either selling it or putting it in the bank, then repeating.  The only thing I had to look forward to was eventually being able to compete with the guys who macro'd all night with their newb weapons to level up their skills, exploited game mechanics to gain large stores of cash, weapons, and armor, and.. in some cases.. cheating still.

It's not the concept behind Darkfall that takes away from the game, it's the development crew that does it.

Originally posted by bosmer24

I've been tempted to try this game for awhile now,but i have certain concerns seeing how i am not a hardcore player.Slightly interested in some PVP altercations.I love the idea of no classes and no levels.

 

1.When i first read about this game years ago it said it would cater to everyone from the hardcore to the causal?Seeing the many reviews can someone casually enjoy this game?

It's difficult to enjoy casually.  The game requires a lot of time to make a character viable, and really have any fun.

2.Since i don't have a ton of time is their mobs i can solo after a hard day at work other then goblins.

There are "Goblin" like mobs you can also solo.  They have a different loot table, cast the same spells, and use the same tactics.

The non-"Goblin" mobs can't really be solo'd unless you exploit them somehow.

3.i don't understand how adding quests would make this game care bearish?Since i love quests in any game.

Basically, the equation is- Anything that makes the game less player driven = Carebear.  NPCs mean you'll be doing less PvP because you'll be questing.  Therefor, you're a carebear.

4.Is getting a group easier in DF then others?Cause  when i want a group in other mmo's i can never manage to get into one.

I found that in a lot of hunting spots (where you aren't RPK'd) it's easier to get into a group.  You'll have to get away from the newb areas though.  Those areas are a haven for new players that think PvP is the point of the game, and not a feature.  I guess they are right.  And also the higher level gank squads they are tired of the lack of content.

5 When your skill improves does the effectiveness of that skill get a little better ? Or is it like they say that it only gets better at 25,50,75,100?

You are correct.  You won't deal any more damage with your spells/skills until you hit the 25/50/75/100 marks.

I am somewhat of a carebear,but i am willing to have my ass kicked in a world that seems as free as DF.

You'll have your ass kicked a lot.  You'll get angry when you run back from killing and get owned by some guy in full banded who 10 shots you.   Then you'll get camped just because the griefer can't kill anyone his own level -- err -- character progression.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

OP you learned all those things cause you not good gamer. You did all those things cause of your inability to play the game. You want the quickiest and dirtiest way to become "ubber" instead of playing and enjoy the game. I did not the things you did and i am now approaching my 4th month of fun :)

I guess no one in your clan macro'd.. or took advantage of any of the numerous bugs..

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Originally posted by aedn

Players who have more skill should win in pvp, however its not the rule in darkfall. in more cases its the exception to the rule, unless said player also has the time to train skills. That said, pvp isnt even the issue, and frankly is the only bright spot in the game. the problem isnt that the pvp in darkfall is bad, its that all the supporting elements, and game mechanics in non pvp aspects of the game are complete failures. broken, or at best horribly unbalanced. This reinforces the scenario that  he who has the most time generally wins, be in resource farming, charecter development, arms race development, etc all win. those who have less time are penalized, and exponentially penalized over time so that at some point the majority will just give up. There is no slippery slope mechanic in this game to balance out the ability for a player or guild to jump back from the loss.

What we end up with is a very steep vertical progression ,rather then a horizontal progression which means the majority of players will never really accept this game. I still play this game, and love the pvp and siege aspects,although siege mechanics are horribly broken. however anyone who has played online games at all for a few years can take a look and see where this product is heading, unless very intensive changes are made, and very soon.

There are many valid reasons why people don't like darkfall, unfortuntely the end result is that the canibals start eating themselves as you can see more and more with the current situation on EU1. You can already see it by the mass slaughter that occurs daily in the newbie areas. you can see it with the mass exodus of starving sheep, and the non hardcore. The developer can spin it anyway they want, but the simple fact is that they have massive issues and very little time to fix them, or this game ends up in the same boat as TR, basically Dead in a year.

Right..

Players who cheated their way to the top are doing better than those who didn't.  so, instead of rewarding those who didn't cheat to get a head, AV punishes them by basically saying, "The loot you didn't dupe will most likely be taken by those who did.  The newb weapons that the cheaters used to level up with, are now also garbage."

Originally posted by boojiboy

PvP in Vanguard is not good.  The PvP server is not doing well.  Vanguard is very much a PvE-centric game.

This..

PvP in this game (on Sartok) usually winds up with who has the best Non GCD macro set up.

There are some OP classes as well, and when 3 of them gang up on you, and they lose nothing if they die (because of the level difference).. the game gets not fun.

And Sartok is dead.  Last time I was there, it seemed like there were less than 50 people logged in.. and the world is huge..

I will occasionally log into WoW on free servers. Usually for about an hour every two months.

I tried WAR again, and just as I predicted, all of the low level content doesn't get played, and finding groups in the low level areas is next to impossible.  All of my characters were transferred to a different server, and my guild is on a different server.  I tried the new classes, but it's not nearly as interesting as it was before.  I need to cancel before my free 10 days is over.

I read about AC almost weekly.  The game still holds a great appeal.  None of the hold your hand crap, loot from every almost every kill (some of it is useful, some of it's not.  But, it can always be a fall back if you drop your good stuff).  the graphics are still out dated, but just like how you remember your first girlfriend.. it still has it's beauty.

I haven't looked at AOC due to the way I left.  Disappointed.

VG is dead.  Too dead.

AO is the same.  Great game in theory, but the world just feels dead, and has for the past 2 years.

I'm not a big console fan. 

I think that's about it.

Originally posted by Fariic

To WoW?

I'm curious.
If you quit, are you playing WoW.

I am.
I was told to.

A lot.
Did you?

No.  WoW rots the brain. 

I'm disappointed in you.

There was no "Eleventy" option.  How can you have a poll with no "Eleventy" option??

Originally posted by bmdevine

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by Hellmoob

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Hey hellmoob, you're from murder herd right?

 

I was, not anymore.

 

Well.. you were in the wrong guild and therefor cannot have an opinion* about darkfall.

 

*A darkfall opinion is only allowed to be positive.  Since you did not qualify your self with being in the "right" guild,  you are wrong.  Any thoughts or feelings you expressed are wrong.

Umm, does DF even have "guilds"?  RM, you should probably proofread your QQ.

In computer and video gaming, a clan or guild is a group of players who regularly play together in a particular (or various different) multiplayer games . These games range from groups of a few friends to 1000-person organizations, with a broad range of structures, goals and members. ...

Originally posted by andmiller

 

 I'm sure Oprah has some forum where everything posted is uplifting and moderated so that no ones feelings are hurt.  I'm afraid your expectations for "forum-peace" are going to be left wanting.......

Actually, No. Darkfall has these forums.  The only requirements are:

• Must say "butthurt" in at least one thread a day. 
• Must insult anyone who disagrees.  These insults can include any realm except race.  Feel free to use homosexual slurs
• Must know how to use the word "owned" (pwned, pwnzrd), also, when speaking  aloud you must pronounce is po-uh-n-d

Originally posted by Hellmoob

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Hey hellmoob, you're from murder herd right?

 

I was, not anymore.

Well.. you were in the wrong guild and therefor cannot have an opinion* about darkfall.

*A darkfall opinion is only allowed to be positive.  Since you did not qualify your self with being in the "right" guild,  you are wrong.  Any thoughts or feelings you expressed are wrong.