Item decay solves nothing.

With item decay you constantly farm to remake equipment before it eventually is destroyed.

Without item decay you constantly farm to make new different equipment entirely.

The only difference is without item decay, at the very least the equipment you farmed hard for will always be there. In the end, they both lead to the same issue. The economy is a lot larger than this one problem, and frankly you're all looking at the problem from the incorrect perspective in the first place. Crafters will always be left on the outside as long as there are things like raid gear or equipment dropped from monsters that are better or equal to what can be crafted. I know you guys think crafting is some great thing, but the reality is that you are all in the minority. Crafting is not a big thing to players by and large, what is important is getting stronger, and if you give players an easier way to get stronger than crafting, they are going to take it. Period.

Right, because PVP is why anyone would play this, right?

FYI for those that don't know, this is the "American" version of the MMO "Queen's Blade". Not sure if it has anything to do with the anime, but signs point to yes. If that's the case, gigantic anti-gravity balloons are actually the toned-down version of breasts in this universe. Guess they get credit for that much.

If Obsidian does Star Wars, it'll be single player.

And EPIC.

Originally posted by Aerowyn
don't think anyone expects this to be the best MMO eva:P but as long as combat is fun, classes are enjoyable, and foundry is well fleshed out i think it will have some good potential for many many hours of enjoyment

This is basically how I feel, though I'm worried about how much faith people are placing in the Foundry. My experience with player-made content is that it's never very good, and the handful of interesting stories people create are frequently buried under the plethora of easy farming maps people make instead. It's inevitable that, if they haven't already, Foundry rewards will end up nerfed to the point that doing that to get anything worthwhile will either be a grind or irrelevant entirely in order to avoid this, unless they go a completely different route with rewards (exclusive skins, more foundry options, etc). The problem there is there are many people who won't be happy if they're not actually getting stronger.

You just can't win with player-made content, someone is always going to try and take advantage of the system and ruin it for everyone else. This wouldn't be as huge a deal if Foundry was one small portion of the content, but it's increasingly becoming the 'star' of the game, with the rest of the content somewhat limited and only mildly interesting. The combat looks alright, but it doesn't look as good as TERA's combat, a game that bored me to tears by level 25 despite having some great combat mechanics.

I'm REALLY hoping I'm wrong and that NWO ends up some great jewel, I haven't had a Neverwinter fix since 2 and I miss that world. Right now though, I'm hesitant.

Originally posted by Rider071

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

The more I'm hearing about this the less I'm liking it. Five classes at launch and worse, my favorite and pretty much the foundation of a good party, the battle cleric, supposedly isn't an option? Game mostly taking place inside a Town a la Dragon Age 2? Selling an exclusive race, relying on player's to make content - by the way, anyone who thinks this is the savior of mmo content is delusional; this is going to be like going into a movie theatre expecting "Interview With A Vampire" and getting "Twilight" - etc., etc.

Game might be fun at first, most are, but it's beginning to sound devoid of lasting interest. I'm going to wait to try it before deciding for sure but, eh...

There was a stream last night of the game for an hour+, it's on the site I am sure under videos, uploaded to the mmorpg youtube site.

It's filled with info from members of MMORPG, ZAM, and a dev Zeke(sp?). It was also a blast to watch.

Nothing like actually getting info from the source with eyes and ears consuming it all.

That...has nothing to do with anything I just said. I specifically stated that games are fun at first, it's lasting power I'm concerned about. Those videos show nothing that address the concerns I stated in the beginning, if anything they validate them, and the information that it has very limited approach to existing class let alone a small selection to start can't be debated from gameplay videos. What was the point you were trying to make, exactly?

Originally posted by Castillle
Not sure about you guys but...I remember long ago they said they werent making this an MMO.  They used something along the lines of multiplaye or co op.  But I distinctly remember them saying they arent building this as an "MMO"

You're half right. Originally Neverwinter WAS built to be a multiplayer co-op RPG. However, post PW aquisition, the plans changed and they stated they were going into it as an MMO. It was PW that pushed them to do so, Cryptic essentially said in the nicest way they could that PW didn't like what they were doing with NW originally, made them trash it and start over, leading to what we have now.

Originally posted by hpisti

Have to agree that the way people play the game has changed a lot in the past months.

Dungeons, for example. I stopped running dungeons around end of October because it was all about die-rez at waypoint-have one person kite the boss while everyone runs back. Seemed strange, not a lot of fun.

However, I've been running dungeons for the past 3 weeks, and it's a blast. People actually know what they're doing, they know the boss mechanics, signs to look for, how to rez others effectively, how to use combos.

As for the lack of trinity making everything just a numbers game... I dunno. This is definitely not true in dungeons (especially with the new patch). I know, supposedly all dungeons can be cleared with any class combination, but having certain classes in there is a definite plus. I've even seen people post "LF guardian" messages...

The LF guardian thing is not really about a specific class, rather a specific mechanic that's easier with that class. Guardians can reflect a lot and help remove status conditions party-wide fairly easily and consistantly. My Mesmer, for instance, can do the same thing (as can my elementalist, though she's more fragile), but my reflection is target on an enemy and my condition removals require ground/party targetting as well, plus has longer cooldowns. That said, I can and have taken a Guardian's place in a group effectively. This doesn't really change until you hit the 30+ portion of fractals where the Agony starts getting out of control even with high AR, at which point you'll want heavily defensive characters in your team and Guardians are just too delicious to pass up. You can get by without them, but it's really nice to have them there.

So you're half on it, class combos are a plus, but it's more because certain classes can do things easier than others, even if 'better' is debateable. And yeah, people are playing much better these days. Did a fractal run at level 12 yesterday, got dredge, harpy and swamp fractal combo + bonus. We finished it in 40 minutes, no wipes. This was a PUG group btw, snatched them off gw2lfg.com. Likewise I level my alts in dungeons and people are doing really well there, as well. I think the combination of balance patches and time have helped people better understand and work within the bounds of gw2's combat.

The more I'm hearing about this the less I'm liking it. Five classes at launch and worse, my favorite and pretty much the foundation of a good party, the battle cleric, supposedly isn't an option? Game mostly taking place inside a Town a la Dragon Age 2? Selling an exclusive race, relying on player's to make content - by the way, anyone who thinks this is the savior of mmo content is delusional; this is going to be like going into a movie theatre expecting "Interview With A Vampire" and getting "Twilight" - etc., etc.

Game might be fun at first, most are, but it's beginning to sound devoid of lasting interest. I'm going to wait to try it before deciding for sure but, eh...

Originally posted by jimdandy26

Originally posted by Rayshe

Originally posted by gaou

Originally posted by Samhael
I thought Nightcrawler was dead? (and hadn't been brought back to life... yet)

nightcrawler is currently dead but i dont think there is anything that says this game takes place after that

Your probubly right, given how meny of the X-men got killed off or depowered. The only way this game would work is if they keep it before House of M.

 

As for me X-23 would be my go to girl. Honestly shes more badass than wolverine and almost killed him when they first met.

The newest even repowered basically all of the mutants unfortunately :(

 

Original nightcrawler is dead. An otherverse version of him has taken his place in the X-men timeline. Don't try to wrap your head around it, you know how these comics get. They're worse than soap operas with all the ressurection/evil twin crap.

Actually, yes, Squirrel Girl has a HUGE following and fan-base. No, I don't know why. Yes, I was shocked, too.

I didn't even know Squirrel Girl was a thing until she won one of the player's choice votes for characters that would make it into Marvel vs. Capcom 3. She didn't make it into the game obviously, but it was eluded to that she would be in an upcoming Marvel game. Lo' and behold, here she is. I haven't been reading comics for a while so I don't know her backstory, but I agree she seems a tad...silly. But whatever. 

As far as Marvel Heroes go, if you check out gazillion's other game you can see how quickly they churn out new heroes. Before long you'll be buried in them, and chances are your favorites will make it in sooner or later. I have it on good authority that Gambit, Psylocke and Northstar are in the works, and Xavier is a planned playable hero in the future. Psylocke is already in the game as an NPC, but it was stated prior that heroes that were made into NPCs aren't disqualified as future playable characters as well.

Game is fun but I actually agree with those above, don't spend money until you're sure you're into it. It's not going to be for everyone. In fairness, all of these action rpgs play exactly the same, the only thing that changes is the skin. This is even more true than genres like themeparks/sandboxes; in an action rpg you're just grinding for loot that never stops being potentially better. That's what Diablo and Torchlight boil down to, that's what this will boil down to. For some, that's quite a lot of fun (like me) but for others it may just end up tedious. 

I do think people should give the game a try though, it may not hold everyone long term but I'd be surprised if most didn't at least find it fun for a day.

So basically, jobs that were previously outsourced to China will now be handled primarily by American artists and animators.

Yeah, not seeing the bad thing here.

Some additional info here, including clarification on the ability to gain heroes and costumes ingame. Sounds like it's going to be a kind of boss hunt, though supposedly they're making it so the first run through nets people at least a handful of heroes to play with.

http://metalarcade.net/2013/01/marvel-heroes-interview-with-stephen-reid/#.UPmtzCdQV8F

6million + people purchase a game and make it a huge success. That's the only number Blizzard as a money-making corporation cares about. That people are complaining about it nearly a year later still is irrelevant to them, they has your money already. Perhaps if people stop rushing out to buy something new and shiny without knowing much about it or, worse, knowing everything and burying your head in the sand anyway, these kinds of tragedies would stop happening.

Side note, I actually enjoyed D3 even though I thought it was deeply flawed, but then I waited to get it on sale. Imagine how quickly fixes and changes would have been put into effect if they had to wait until players felt the game was worthwhile to spend their monies on it. Js.

Ick, you really can't think of a single reason for neverending progression?

...Really?

If Guild Wars 2 has proven anything, it's that even allowing high level players to be rewarded by high level things for visiting low level areas is not enough to get them to go to those low level areas. Now let's look at WoW; everytime the cap is raised and progression is furthered, all the content before it becomes ghost towns and proof of irrelevancy. Let's be perfectly honest, gamers aren't always the most logical people out there. If there is an area that's out of their level range at some point, they're going to naturally assume they have to progress to that point and once they do, they aren't going to look back. Give it time, and that means people new to a game with infinite progression would essentially be playing a single-player game for many levels, if not forever, because they have no hope of catching up to the people that came before them.

So that's why it's bad for PvE. For PvP, take a look at Darkfall in its initial iteration, where people who played first were inevitably, and infinitely, more stronger than anyone who came after, because progression was forever and thus there was never a way to catch up to them. The only way to avoid this is via progression that doesn't necessarily make one stronger, but evidently that's not good enough for some people.

Love ya Bill, but this is a terrible idea. Stop it.

Originally posted by vickter420

This is why MMOs are going the route of SWTOR and why SWG went its route. Why do you want to play AS Batman or Wolverine in a MMO??? Dont you find it silly when you see a team of Spider-mans? Oh right but different costome so thats okay. How about this crazy idea you build up a new super hero (or villian)  start from nothing and build your OWN legend?

Through PVP, PVE, helping people or messing with them theres many other ways to make your char. feel like a badass just the current formula doesnt allow for anything off rails. (in any game really atm)  I always liked building my own charactor and not being stuck with a templete but guess thats just me.

 

First off, it's an MMO. You're not building your own legend in any MMO, you're still doing the same things as everyone else. Any legend you build is in your own imagination, one that should work anywhere.

Secondly, I really don't care that every other person out there can play as the same hero as me, I don't even care if they're doing it while on my team. Fact is, ~I~ can play as my favorite hero, that suits (pun) me just fine. Worry less about what other people are doing with their time.

Originally posted by Zaqir

I recently watched a Twitch feed of the devs playing and talking about the game.

 

While I am truly looking forward to this game I am concerned with what I hear from the devs and was wondering if you guys thought they were just overhyping or ignorant of a few things.

 

1)They talked about being able to change party members and how revolutionary this was and how no one has done it before etc. This bugged me for a few reasons.

-Darkspore did this and had a clear purpose for it, their system of heroes had a rock paper scissors thing going so it made sense.

-Marvel hinted at some heroes being better at certain bosses yet from gameplay this never seemed to be the case as the game was flashy yet somewhat simplistic in play elements. Ie I never saw a moment where you wanted to switch from hulk to ironman.

 

2)They hyped flying but all I could gather was that it was a semi form of transport that allowed no combat or tactical advantage of any sort. IE its mostly a shortcut thing.

 

so once again I might be nitpicking but their statements and lack of knowledge of a few things +their obvious yet oblivious hype attempts has me slightly worried.

 

I still cannot wait to play as Colossus.

1) Each hero plays like an MMO class, but with some flair. For instance, Scarlet Witch is a controller type, a lot of her skills hold things in place and buff/debuff in wide ranges. Wolverine self-heals and takes a lot of damage (tank) making him great for bosses with quick attacks that are difficult to get out of range of (Venom).

2) Flying, for instance with Storm, allows you higher mobility. You move faster and can pass through/over enemies and objects making it easier to maneuver around the battlefield. It's fun but I don't know that I'd consider that a major selling point.